WWE SummerSlam 2012: Brock Lesnar vs HHH w/HBK, CM Punk vs Cena vs Big Show (Aug. 19)

[g-ice]

Coli jinx.

This might be an unpopular opinion around here, but unless they do something to make Ziggler stand out he may go down the Jack Swagger path. He's a GREAT wrestler and he has a ton of potential character wise. The problem is, he has no character, well none beyond Cocky Heel Type B-3.

I don't want to see Ziggler with a heatless run like Del Rio. The E needs to do something to put him over the top.[/QUOTE]

What do you think needs to be done (over the top wise)?

 

[Alexander The Great]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROzNrz7DbkY&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Coli jinx.

This might be an unpopular opinion around here, but unless they do something to make Ziggler stand out he may go down the Jack Swagger path. He's a GREAT wrestler and he has a ton of potential character wise. The problem is, he has no character, well none beyond Cocky Heel Type B-3.

I don't want to see Ziggler with a heatless run like Del Rio. The E needs to do something to put him over the top.[/QUOTE]

What do you think needs to be done (over the top wise)?

First Vickie needs to go. And it needs to be done in a manner that will actually make people sympathetic towards Vickie.

After that Ziggler needs to make something clear; he won't be cashing in the MITB briefcase for some time. He's not waiting for a particular date or moment, he's not trying to do anything honorable, he just wants to be ready. He doesn't want to end up like Swagger, Christian, Orton, or Jericho, all guys who won the big one but ended up spinning their wheels, careers dead ended. When he wins the title he wants it to be his crowning moment, no one will question his ascendance.

After his motives are clear he needs to go on a tear. Heels or faces, he's fukking them up. No tweener shyt, Ziggler is the WORST of all evils. If he can't outwrestle them, he's cheating. He's not taking ANY L's. If you pin him, you're getting fukked up post match. He's attacking guys randomly. fukking up diva matches, ruining main events. Not only that, but as future world champion he feels he's above all the other belts, which means he's fukking up title holders. Tag champs . IC champ , US champ , WHC champ , WWE champ , Divas champ

After all this, he finally cashes in the MITB and wins. Bingo, you have a credible world champion.

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

First Vickie needs to go. And it needs to be done in a manner that will actually make people sympathetic towards Vickie.

After that Ziggler needs to make something clear; he won't be cashing in the MITB briefcase for some time. He's not waiting for a particular date or moment, he's not trying to do anything honorable, he just wants to be ready. He doesn't want to end up like Swagger, Christian, Orton, or Jericho, all guys who won the big one but ended up spinning their wheels, careers dead ended. When he wins the title he wants it to be his crowning moment, no one will question his ascendance.

After his motives are clear he needs to go on a tear. Heels or faces, he's fukking them up. No tweener shyt, Ziggler is the WORST of all evils. If he can't outwrestle them, he's cheating. He's not taking ANY L's. If you pin him, you're getting fukked up post match. He's attacking guys randomly. fukking up diva matches, ruining main events. Not only that, but as future world champion he feels he's above all the other belts, which means he's fukking up title holders. Tag champs . IC champ , US champ , WHC champ , WWE champ , Divas champ

After all this, he finally cashes in the MITB and wins. Bingo, you have a credible world champion.

ziggler isnt tough enough to pull that off...way barry could

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

ziggler isnt tough enough to pull that off...way barry could

I fukks with Don Bundy but no one really gave a fukk about him. Mostly due to bad booking but the point still stands. If they could take goofy ass Mark Henry and give him that awesome heel run they can do the same for Ziggler. He doesn't need to dominate, all he needs to do is intimidate. There's a difference. We need strong NON MONSTER heels in the WWE.

 

[Sierra Mist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROzNrz7DbkY&feature=player_embedded

I saw the guy run into the crowd but I couldn't figure out why. Well.... .


Dammit AW you coulda been something.

 

[3Rivers]

First Vickie needs to go. And it needs to be done in a manner that will actually make people sympathetic towards Vickie.

After that Ziggler needs to make something clear; he won't be cashing in the MITB briefcase for some time. He's not waiting for a particular date or moment, he's not trying to do anything honorable, he just wants to be ready. He doesn't want to end up like Swagger, Christian, Orton, or Jericho, all guys who won the big one but ended up spinning their wheels, careers dead ended. When he wins the title he wants it to be his crowning moment, no one will question his ascendance.

After his motives are clear he needs to go on a tear. Heels or faces, he's fukking them up. No tweener shyt, Ziggler is the WORST of all evils. If he can't outwrestle them, he's cheating. He's not taking ANY L's. If you pin him, you're getting fukked up post match. He's attacking guys randomly. fukking up diva matches, ruining main events. Not only that, but as future world champion he feels he's above all the other belts, which means he's fukking up title holders. Tag champs . IC champ , US champ , WHC champ , WWE champ , Divas champ

After all this, he finally cashes in the MITB and wins. Bingo, you have a credible world champion.

I like that idea. I'd have him cash in his MITB contract at the beginning of another title match making it a three way dance. Sort of a "I don't need you to be at your weakest to win, I'm that good that I'll beat two of you to win" sort of moment

 

[Brad Piff]

Wooooooooooo! Just got back from the show. Me and my homie came up big time on tix. We were just chillin in line waiting to see if there would be any about 2 hours before the show started. What they usually do is after it's 'sold out" they tell peeps, so some leave. About 15 mins til bell time we finally came up. My homie got a floor seat, originally at 450, for 150 and I got the section above the floor for 75, originally like 200.

Show was fun. Probably better than last year's. Main event wasn't nothing special, but it was fun for nostalgic purpose. Double C winning the U.S. title! Yo, when he came out I was like, "who the fukk is this guy?" And once I looked closer I was

LA crowd shytting on Rudolf was

Then at the end chanting "you tapped out" at Trips. Man, gotta love the L.A. crowd. Why the fukk did he tear up? Was this his last match?

Fun fact: while waiting for tix David Arquette passed right by us. About 3 minutes later porn star Keiran Lee passed with some chick who I wanna assume was a porn chick.

LA was hilarious with the chants all night dont know if they all came through on tv though

i ran into maria menounos too and stole a hug/pic while her chump boyfriend looked on

 

[Alexander The Great]

LA was hilarious with the chants all night dont know if they all came through on tv though

i ran into maria menounos too and stole a hug/pic while her chump boyfriend looked on

how long did it take you to get the HHH chant started after they had already shytted on him?

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

First Vickie needs to go. And it needs to be done in a manner that will actually make people sympathetic towards Vickie.

After that Ziggler needs to make something clear; he won't be cashing in the MITB briefcase for some time. He's not waiting for a particular date or moment, he's not trying to do anything honorable, he just wants to be ready. He doesn't want to end up like Swagger, Christian, Orton, or Jericho, all guys who won the big one but ended up spinning their wheels, careers dead ended. When he wins the title he wants it to be his crowning moment, no one will question his ascendance.

After his motives are clear he needs to go on a tear. Heels or faces, he's fukking them up. No tweener shyt, Ziggler is the WORST of all evils. If he can't outwrestle them, he's cheating. He's not taking ANY L's. If you pin him, you're getting fukked up post match. He's attacking guys randomly. fukking up diva matches, ruining main events. Not only that, but as future world champion he feels he's above all the other belts, which means he's fukking up title holders. Tag champs . IC champ , US champ , WHC champ , WWE champ , Divas champ

After all this, he finally cashes in the MITB and wins. Bingo, you have a credible world champion.

I'm the last one to try to pigeon-hole guys or say someone's not credible because he's too small or whatever...but come on, breh. You just booked some shyt for Ryback or better yet, Brock Lesnar. fukkin up tag teams by himself? The WORST OF ALL EVILS, that's not Dolph. He can be a strong heel without being a monster, but what you just described is definitely a monster.

Lol at the ongoing fetish/desire to see divas beat down. Between you and r=g there's some serious issues to work out there. And you know damn well none of that shyt can go down in your beloved PG era.

 

[Brad Piff]

how long did it take you to get the HHH chant started after they had already shytted on him?

nobody shytted on him fun was just being had out there

 

[Brad Piff]

random creep shot of some slores walking in front of me on my way to staples center

 

[R=G]

- A fan held up a sign reading "AW should be here" during the main event match, which was immediately taken away by by a WWE production member.

 

[thevarangian]

Punk delivered one of his best elbows literally in his entire career last night:

 

[MoneyBags]

theres gonna be hell to pay for this

LMFAO