WW2 tidbits. France and UK could've crushed Nazi Germany but didn't

[Robbie3000]

We're lucky it played out that way. Stalin was going to do something much worse but he couldn't ever form trust with hitler. Imagine Russian numbers with German Tech. The world was dead if they cliqued up.

Thread title is weird because Hitler beat the brakes off France in like a day and had everyone in the UK running and hiding underground for weeks.

League of bytch ass Nations caused WW2 imo. Making Germany pay a huge bill after WW1 and telling Japan to shut up and be quiet after they helped during WW1. This is not how you make peace you greedy fukks.

In the end poor decision making and idk insanity i guess lost hitler the war, like why on Earth would Hitler not try to just appease the USA and just settle for Europe. Nazis had some sympathizers in the USA, they should have relaxed their rhetoric and went for peace using politics, geez you already had UK and Russia Shook, that was impressive enough, really fam, cliquing up with Japan and going to war with a fresh USA? WHY???? Insanity. The war was over the moment Japan didnt continue on to bombing the mainland after pearl harbour.

Russia and the East were always the targets. Hitler believed that for German to take its “rightful” place amongst the world’s”Great Nations” he needed to conquer territory in the East and wipe off half of the population of the Slavs who he saw as an inferior race of people. Plus he could destroy the communist Bolsheviks who were directly opposed to the ideology of fascism and whom he believed were being led by treacherous Jews.

The war was largely the result of of one man’s insecurity and low self esteem gaining power at worst possible time.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

they could have created a trade route like the Africans and Asians did with the Silk & Spice Roads but they’re naturally blood thirsty savages

Europeans had been trading with Mesopotamian/Asian/Egyptian civilizations as well as others along the 'Silk Road' for a thousand+ years.....​

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

One other tidbit. The Germany tried to form an alliance with Mexico but the British intercepted the telegram and that's what initially got the U.S. involved in WWI.

Germany promised that if they sided with them, and won, Mexico would get Texas, New Mexico and Arizona back.

 

[tuckgod]

Well worth a read, weird shyt

Any books or docs you recommend?

 

[tuckgod]

Which part?

The part that Austria would take an entire nation to war because one of their citizens killed the Archduke.

They couldn’t talk that out?

All the nations of the world couldn’t talk that out?

 

[5n0man]

The part that Austria would take an entire nation to war because one of their citizens killed the Archduke.

They couldn’t talk that out?

All the nations of the world couldn’t talk that out?

It basically came down to territory disputes and colonization.

Austria tried to use the opportunity to get Serbia to give up a portion of their territory to avoid war. Allied countries felt like they were asking for too much. Everyone wanted to go to war for land.

Nobody talks about how the allies double crossed the ottoman empire and stole their land after getting them to go to war against Germany and Australia.

Ww1 is a good example of how the winners dictate how history gets told.

 

[tuckgod]

It basically came down to territory disputes and colonization.

Of course.

Everything in life boils down to who holds what corner so they can pump.

 

[MajesticLion]

France?

 

[Sire366]

It basically came down to territory disputes and colonization.

Austria tried to use the opportunity to get Serbia to give up a portion of their territory to avoid war. Allied countries felt like they were asking for too much. Everyone wanted to go to war for land.

Nobody talks about how the allies double crossed the ottoman empire and stole their land after getting them to go to war against Germany and Australia.

Ww1 is a good example of how the winners dictate how history gets told.

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Ottoman Empire was with Germany, and Austria in the Central Powers (Im sure you meant Austria and not Australia)
Their first course of action in 1914 was attacking Russia, they were on the losing side

 

[5n0man]

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Ottoman Empire was with Germany, and Austria in the Central Powers (Im sure you meant Austria and not Australia)
Their first course of action in 1914 was attacking Russia, they were on the losing side

Yeah I have my details swapped. They aligned with the central powers not knowing that the central powers planned on dividing their land up after the war.

 

[QuintessentialMan]

Russia and the East were always the targets. Hitler believed that for German to take its “rightful” place amongst the world’s”Great Nations” he needed to conquer territory in the East and wipe off half of the population of the Slavs who he saw as an inferior race of people. Plus he could destroy the communist Bolsheviks who were directly opposed to the ideology of fascism and whom he believed were being led by treacherous Jews.

The war was largely the result of of one man’s insecurity and low self esteem gaining power at worst possible time.

It has been suggested that dude was maybe trying to compensate for something.

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-02-22/adolf-hitler-had-a-small-penis-report-finds

The Science Behind Hitler's Possible Micropenis 

Adolf Hitler had 1 testicle and a really small penis, according to historians - National | Globalnews.ca

 

[Able Archer 83]

There were other factors but that one was a big one. Germany didn't have to concede, they were fukking shyt up and only stopped because the loss of life was becoming too much for all sides. The German people felt like their leaders were weak for rolling over and accepting the terms of defeat. They they were blamed and forced to pay for a war they didn't cause and it had fukked up their economy, the germans were rightfully pissed.

Postwar German revisionism. The military was inflicting casualties, but was falling apart at the seams. Entire divisions were melting away, and there was a major mutiny in the German Navy. The German military leadership i.e. Hindenburg recognized this more than anyone, but were too cowardly to sign the armistice themselves in order to avoid the stain of defeat, leaving it to low-level officers--even though the high command bore the blame more than anyone else.

Also, every level of German society was collapsing, and the Bolshevik Revolution was spreading into Germany proper. Within three months of the Armistice, there would be open combat in the streets. This was going to happen whether or not Germany "rolled over"; the only difference is the Armistice ensured there were enough demobilized soldiers and equipment to engage in counterrevolutionary warfare.

 

[Mr 500 000 000 YearZ]

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I was reading some stuff 6 or 7 months ago, seen sumthin about Herbert Prescott Bush funding Adolf Hitler & the Nazis during WWII...

 

[5n0man]

Postwar German revisionism. The military was inflicting casualties, but was falling apart at the seams. Entire divisions were melting away, and there was a major mutiny in the German Navy. The German military leadership i.e. Hindenburg recognized this more than anyone, but were too cowardly to sign the armistice themselves in order to avoid the stain of defeat, leaving it to low-level officers--even though the high command bore the blame more than anyone else.

Also, every level of German society was collapsing, and the Bolshevik Revolution was spreading into Germany proper. Within three months of the Armistice, there would be open combat in the streets. This was going to happen whether or not Germany "rolled over"; the only difference is the Armistice ensured there were enough demobilized soldiers and equipment to engage in counterrevolutionary warfare.

When I say "rolled over" I dont mean give up the war. I mean they should never have allowed the blame and consequences to be place solely at their feet. They should have held off for better terms that wouldn't leave them fukked after the war.

 

[Dorian Breh]

what’s wrong with that thread

If he would have remained allies with Russia they very likely would have won the war

The Russians saved the entire European continent from becoming German

Germany didn't have enough fuel to run their subs, tanks and planes without invading Russia

Stalin wasn't gonna give them that shyt

They weren't allies, it was a non aggression pact