Wut da blood clot??: The Official Miami Heat 2015-16 Offseason Thread

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From what I've read playing on blood thinners is dangerous because any blow that causes bleeding could be fatal. Team officials were saving Bosh from himself

Which is completely understandable.

Chris Boshmissed the second half of the 2015-16 season with a reoccurrence of the blood clots that kept him out much of last season, and the situation was clouded by a lack of clarity. Reports emerged closer to the playoffs that Bosh and the Miami Heat disagreed about the handling of Bosh’s condition, that he wanted to play and doctors wouldn’t allow it. The Miami Herald‘s Barry Jackson has some new details of their disagreement, which centered around Bosh wanting to play while on blood thinners.

According to a team source, the Bosh camp spent considerable time exploring the idea of Bosh continuing to take those blood thinners, but at a time of day (such as early morning) that the medication would be out of his bloodstream by game time.

Someone with knowledge of the situation said blood tests indicated the medication was out of Bosh’s system after 8 to 12 hours, which would significantly lessen the risk for Bosh playing. But the Heat and team doctors rejected that idea.

None of the doctors involved in Bosh’s case is commenting, but Robert Myerburg — an expert on treatment of athletes and a cardiologist at U-Health – said even though some of the newer blood thinners can be out of a patient’s system within 12 hours, “I would not use that strategy [that the Bosh camp explored]. There’s too much at risk.

“The drug being out of the system is not what worries me as much as the unprotected time” during games and other times when the blood thinner is out of his system, even more so if he’s subjected to trauma in an area where there was past clotting (in his leg and calf). He said patients with atrial fibrillation can sometimes be taken off thinners when they go on a skiing trip, but this is different.

As much as Bosh believed the blood thinners would be out of his system, the Heat were right to handle it the way they did. Even if timing the medication differently lessened the risk of playing, the Heat were still the ones responsible for what happened when he played. If something were to happen to him, the Heat would have to be the ones to explain how they let their medical staff be overruled by Bosh and allowed him to be placed in a life-threatening situation. Both Bosh and the Heat are apparently optimistic that he’ll be able to return next season, but blood clots are nothing to play around with, and taking an overly cautious approach this season was better than the alternative.

Report: Heat, Chris Bosh clashed over Bosh wanting to play while on blood thinners
 

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welp. if the thunder make the finals we can officially dead that durant fantasy. shouldn't even have started to begin with, but there's no way durant leaves if they make the finals. even if they don't there's probably no chance he leaves. focus on the guys we have and surround them with quality role players.
:ufdup: no GS bout to do us that favor in a few hours and this nikka gon be crying to his Mama and then in july we gon put him in that fukkin room with riley and he's coming out with a verbal agreement or else he dead...shyt GSW fukk around and demolish lebron again his fukk around and follow suit (not that i want him back cuz i dont) yall better pray for this shyt we might be swagged the fukk out in 2 months i know you want that feeling i know you miss that feeling get it together nikka we warrior fans until the finals over
 

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From what I've read playing on blood thinners is dangerous because any blow that causes bleeding could be fatal. Team officials were saving Bosh from himself
if thats the case then thank god they didnt let him play. im still very suspect on him not getting it for a third year in a row. i dont see how you get it back to back years, then all of sudden it just goes away.
 

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Which is completely understandable.

Chris Boshmissed the second half of the 2015-16 season with a reoccurrence of the blood clots that kept him out much of last season, and the situation was clouded by a lack of clarity. Reports emerged closer to the playoffs that Bosh and the Miami Heat disagreed about the handling of Bosh’s condition, that he wanted to play and doctors wouldn’t allow it. The Miami Herald‘s Barry Jackson has some new details of their disagreement, which centered around Bosh wanting to play while on blood thinners.

According to a team source, the Bosh camp spent considerable time exploring the idea of Bosh continuing to take those blood thinners, but at a time of day (such as early morning) that the medication would be out of his bloodstream by game time.

Someone with knowledge of the situation said blood tests indicated the medication was out of Bosh’s system after 8 to 12 hours, which would significantly lessen the risk for Bosh playing. But the Heat and team doctors rejected that idea.

None of the doctors involved in Bosh’s case is commenting, but Robert Myerburg — an expert on treatment of athletes and a cardiologist at U-Health – said even though some of the newer blood thinners can be out of a patient’s system within 12 hours, “I would not use that strategy [that the Bosh camp explored]. There’s too much at risk.

“The drug being out of the system is not what worries me as much as the unprotected time” during games and other times when the blood thinner is out of his system, even more so if he’s subjected to trauma in an area where there was past clotting (in his leg and calf). He said patients with atrial fibrillation can sometimes be taken off thinners when they go on a skiing trip, but this is different.

As much as Bosh believed the blood thinners would be out of his system, the Heat were right to handle it the way they did. Even if timing the medication differently lessened the risk of playing, the Heat were still the ones responsible for what happened when he played. If something were to happen to him, the Heat would have to be the ones to explain how they let their medical staff be overruled by Bosh and allowed him to be placed in a life-threatening situation. Both Bosh and the Heat are apparently optimistic that he’ll be able to return next season, but blood clots are nothing to play around with, and taking an overly cautious approach this season was better than the alternative.

Report: Heat, Chris Bosh clashed over Bosh wanting to play while on blood thinners
This shyt is sad to read. We've gone hard on bosh at times (I know I have when I probably shouldn't have), but none of us can doubt how badly he wanted to be out there for this team. I hate the fact that someone that committed to the team has to be protected from himself by his team so his life ain't at risk. shyt isn't fair man.
 

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What we’re hearing on each, with July 1 free agency about a month away:

• Whiteside. My understanding, reiterated in recent days, is if all things are equal financially, Whiteside wants to re-sign with Miami. He likes living here and likes the organization.

But we’ve repeatedly heard the Heat’s preference is persuading him to sign under the max (projected to be $21.6 million next season) by selling him on the lack of state income tax, his comfort level here, the roster flexibility created by him taking a bit less; and that Miami can offer 7.5 percent annual raises off the first year salary (compared with 4.5 percent elsewhere). That means a four-year deal starting at $20.7 million with Miami would equal a four-year deal starting at $21.6 million elsewhere.

But if Miami offers, say, $2 million less per year than max offers elsewhere, what would Whiteside do? That decision hasn’t been made and it won’t be an easy one.

Money is obviously very important, but Whiteside has also said this spring that “you want to win more than anything. I don’t really want to be the face of a losing franchise.”
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Wade. One Heat person expects a deal ultimately will be reached paying him at least $15 million, perhaps much closer to, or at, $20 million. The Heat’s preference is for one year, to give it 2017 flexibility. :ld: I tried telling you guys there wouldn't be a legacy deal
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paraphrasing the rest..link at bottom for full story

Iso Joe - Heat would like to resign him with 2.9 exception, Joe camp doesnt know if he'll be inclined to take a discount. Cool with me, more minutes for young guys.

Deng - Would love to be here, Team wants him back, simply may not be enough money to go around. Projected to get 12 million on the open market.

Amare - Team would bring him back at the minimum, he wants to defined role (ie: minutes). Deuces

Exploring where Heat stands with impending free agents and new details on Bosh situation; Dolphins, Canes, Marlins chatter | Sports Buzz

If there's any truth to this it sounds like they might have to find replacements for Deng, Joe, Amare, Green, and Wright, but I would expect one of those last 2 back on a minimum contract and Winslow is given the keys.
 

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If there's any truth to this it sounds like they might have to find replacements for Deng, Joe, Amare, Green, and Wright, but I would expect one of those last 2 back on a minimum contract and Winslow is given the keys.
He's not ready offensively. As bad as he was this year I expect improvement but I'm not expecting some out of this world shyt in one off season
 
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He's not ready offensively. Add bad as he was this year I recurve improvement but I'm not expecting some out of this world shyt in one off season

Let's be fair, that's a 19/20 year old kid who had no defined role. He hardly scratched the surface of his potential last year because he spent 75% of the time parked in the corner watching the offense, that's poor coaching. Probably played his best basketball of the year those last 3 games
 

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If there's any truth to this it sounds like they might have to find replacements for Deng, Joe, Amare, Green, and Wright, but I would expect one of those last 2 back on a minimum contract and Winslow is given the keys.


I'd keep deng..spo dumb ass didn't use am are correctly..watch him go to golden state or some dumb shyt...I was disappointed in green and have hope for him but he gone...deng will only be able to stay if we trade mcbob..but then we're lacking 2 bigs now...
 
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