Wow brehs... I'm reading about the DOGON tribe from the mountains Mali, untouched by white slavery.

[LevelUp]

Real deep info being shared. Like that there isn't any arrogance in this section. I hope it stays that way.

Edit: I spoke too soon.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Fairly interesting.
Aside from the weird pseudo-science and astronomy nonsense; what are they up to now? How is their culture and language preservation while Mali is urbanizing? Have their been movements to end FGM? Have they avoided economic exploitation?

You'd be better off staying out of this thread.

 

[CEITEDMOFO]

You'd be better off staying out of this thread.

???

 

[Apollo Creed]

???

Regulating things you dont undertand nor it being for you to understand as "nonsense" and "pseudoscience" is white supremecist behavior.

If you cant show respect to other peoples cultures then get your goofy ass on.

Dogon were here before any of us and will be here after us.

 

[YouMadd?]

Fairly interesting.
Aside from the weird pseudo-science and astronomy nonsense; what are they up to now? How is their culture and language preservation while Mali is urbanizing? Have their been movements to end FGM? Have they avoided economic exploitation?

lol This thread is about an Ancient people, and their mysticism, and odd theology. This group represents about 400K out of a country whose population is about 14.5 million... So I wouldn't be asking those specific questions in regards to such a small isolated population that is self sufficient, fishes, hunts, and builds communities along mountains and generally keeps to themselves, lives by their own customs and speaks double digit amount of dialects amongst themselves.

Have they avoided economic exploitation? Yes they avoided the transatlantic slave trade.

If you want to analyze the country of Mali on a macro level when it comes to human rights issues than that would be a great thread. Or analyzing Mali's economy on a Macro level by the basics: "GDP", "Productivity vs spending" you can form an opinion about their economies performance. Hate to say it but I wouldnt start with the Dogon when trying to answer questions in regards to FGM and the urbanization of Mali, They are isolated.

 

[YouMadd?]

This breh interviewed a Hogon

 

[The D-List Vet]

are these the same group of people Tariq talk about in HC 4? or was they a different set of people?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

In this book I'm on the chapter about the Dogon people.

And the author argues from past scholars that the Dogon KNEW about the big bang! I swear the Dogon are an extraordinary people.

 

[Archangel]

Absolutely amazing thread

 

[IronFist]

2 points

The Sun glyph of Ancient Kemet (Ra) is comparative to the Dogon symbol of the Womb of All of Amma. Where the 8 subjective divine forces (deities) or Khemnu/Ogdoads are comparative to the 8 Great Ancestors of the Dogons.



Tommo So [Dogon] has 2 class compound recognized from one another tonal conduct. Within the 1st class, canonical compounds, all not-final stems their tone gets lace with a L in a procedure known as bringing down the tone. this is similar procedure seen when a thing is changed by certain grammatical classes (descriptive word, definitive , relative proviso.). Alternate classes of compounds like pseudogenitive decreases the tone in a pattern identical to a true genitive.

 

[IronFist]

Something I'm working on in regards to the Kung.

The Kung concept of num correlates in many respects with the Dogon concept of Nommo. nommo even shares the same consonantal root (n-m-m) with num (n-m), Nommo is the life force which produces all life and influences 'things' in the shape of the word. Nommo can be seen as the divine Logos of the Greeks. The great Dogon sage Ogotommeli states that Nommo is 'water and heat'. The vital force that carries the word issues from the mouth in a water vapour which is both water and word (Griaule 1948: 165). Nommo, therefore, is water and the glow of fire and seed and word in one (Jahn 1961: 124). It is my contention that the words num and Nommo ultimately derive from words that mean "water" and fire" as they are both seen in Africa as the sources of all life and vitality.

iKami -> nu, now, nwn > primordial waters
iKami > nwy > water
Dagara > nyu > to drink
Kikongo > nwa > primordial waters
Kikongo > nua, nui-ni > to drink
Mbochi > nyua > primordial waters
Maori > inu > to drink
Common Bantu > nu > water
Yoruba > nmu > drinking

The element of water is often seen as "spirit" in African traditions. the human being's true essence is spirit and it is formless and genderless like water. The numerous variations of water, with the -n- root, render as spirit or soul in many African languages with a slight alteration of vowels.

Bamana > ni > soul
Djula > ni > soul
Sussu > ni > soul
Gola > o-ngin, o-ngi > soul
Sankrokofi > ku-ni > soul
Zulu > ena > spirit/soul, double
Ga-Asafo, E-Gbe > won > spirit
Common Bantu > yene > spirit, self
Kikongo > kini kiD Monika > electronically radiated shadow (the double)

Yoruba > enia > person, people

OAN :

Nyama (n-m), like Nommo (n-m-m) among the Dogon, is also associated with the power of the word (Doumbia & Doumbia, 2004: 33-4) and is associated with Bards : the master story tellers who are the keepers of ancient knowledge. In S. Africa townships, the phrase shisa nyama describes an informal barbeque where friends meet near a butchery and grill meat in open fire. Nyama Choma in Kiswahili is the term for "roasted meat" which is also a term used for open barbeques in Kenya among the Massai

 

[IronFist]

Dogon has a adjective noun modifiers in correspondence with Egyptian grammar. Dogon has a adjective for black <<gem>> and it has the exact same usages as Egyptian <<km>> as an noun modifier. In Dogon the (noun + adjective) in which the adjective follows the noun and modify it.

 

[Paradise50]

Am I reaching there's a part of history not being told? Not to thread jack but I think the pyramids are even older than what history tells us.

 

[Afrodroid]

The element of water is often seen as "spirit" in African traditions. the human being's true essence is spirit and it is formless and genderless like water. The numerous variations of water, with the -n- root, render as spirit or soul in many African languages with a slight alteration of vowels.

Genesis 1 - The Beginning

"1.In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
"2.Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters."

Coincidence?

Despite the various religions and cults around the world everything points to a creator, a higher being who rules the life and the death

 

[blackzeus]

There are lots of books on the Dogon. Just Google "books on the Dogon Tribe."

Btw, I am always cynical of White people and there reasons for studying the Dogon, Yoruba, Kongo, etc. For centuries White people were so sure that Black people were savages and had no history; now White people are absolutely floored about what the customs and cultures actually represent, which is way more advanced than their own White cultures. That means that White people will now appropriate the customs and cultures for themselves just like they are always trying to appropriate Egypt for the Greeks, Romans and smelly Arabs. Just like White people have appropriated the Bible and monotheism.

Felt it necessary to add that adjective eh?