Would you rather be kryptonian or Wakandan.

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I think u know what happens next...





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They lived with a Red Sun for centuries... Only Jor El was smart enough to figure that shyt out...
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I never got why the kyrptonians didn't know yellow sunlight gave them powers?
True that. Superboy prime had a solar armour. Recreate that and you imagine the possibilities.
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Did they ever explore the idea that some older elite kryptonions found out bout their yellow sun powers and kept that knowledge to themselves like cacs do today??? Because a planet full of gods would make the battleground equel so they cancel all exploration so nobody else finds out.

But when jor el catches on they slander him then blow the fukkin planet???

:ehh: Yes and no, i believe in superman lore the high class kryptonians wasnt scientists so I'm sure they wouldnt have caught on to the yellow sun radiation theory. but that would make for a kick ass story.
 

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Yeah. Supes wouldn't have let him come back.
Supes get beat all the time breh. But cook..


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4 Ways Batman Has Already Defeated Superman



In the world of comics there are few names that carry as much weight and meaning behind them than Superman and Batman. Both are considered cultural phenomena in their own right while simultaneously acting as foils to each other. The differences in strengths, methods, and principles are so clashing that it often leads to disagreement between the two; sometimes even straight up altercation, as happens in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Though it may seem that Superman would obviously have the upper hand in these moments, one should never underestimate the resourcefulness of The World’s Greatest Detective. Time and time again Batman has proven not only formidable, but even superior, to the Man of Steel. How has Batman, a man with no inherent super powers, managed to defeat the Man of Steel over and over again?

1. Kryptonite Ring
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Source: DC Comics

What do you do if you’re a writer and you’ve created a character like Superman with a never-ending list of abilities including complete invulnerability? You make up kryptonite, the fictional mineral that conveniently takes away all of your hero’s super powers. While it’s not the most creative plot device, it is unquestionably the most useful tool when bringing down the Man of Steel.

Batman is actually given a kryptonite ring by Superman under the pretense that someone needs to be able to stop the Kryptonian if he were to ever go rogue, which has happened on multiple occasions, usually in the form of mind control. One such example occurs in the Batman story arc known as Hush, which ran from December 2002 until September 2003. In it, Poison Ivy has Superman under her control and Batman is forced to use the ring against his friend. It’s important to note that the ring is not the only thing that ensures Batman’s victory. According to Batman, Superman’s biggest weakness isn’t kryptonite; it’s that deep down Clark Kent is a good person, while Batman is not.

2. Lois Lane
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Source: DC Comics

As stated above, kryptonite is not the only weakness Superman has. In the same comic,Hush, Superman is fully capable of overpowering Batman and crushing him, ring or no ring. Being fully aware of this fact, Batman comes up with a fool-proof plan to defeat his old friend. The fight itself is essentially a ruse to distract Superman, while Catwoman, under Batman’s orders, kidnaps Lois Lane, Superman/Clark Kent’s love. Batman then plans to have Catwoman drop Lois Lane off a skyscraper in plain view of Superman. Upon seeing the love of his life falling to her death, Superman snaps out of Poison Ivy’s mind control and rescues Lois, flying her to safety.

This indirectly foils Poison Ivy’s scheme and directly ends the fight with Superman on Batman’s own terms. Not only is this ruthless plan a perfect illustration of Batman’s differing opinion between himself and Superman as mentioned above (it’s hard to believe that a “good” person would be willing to drop an innocent bystander from a building), but it is also an excellent example of Bruce’s near-omniscient knowledge of his opponents.

3. Kryptonite Arrow
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Source: WB Animation

When fighting Superman, it almost always comes back to kryptonite (assuming Superman’s girlfriend isn’t around to toss off of a skyscraper). In Frank Miller’s 1986 comic, The Dark Knight Returns, Superman is charged with bringing in an aging Batman who won’t give up his (illegal) vigilantism. In an iconic battle, Batman famously goes toe to toe with Superman wearing a fully armored Batsuit. The battle rages throughout the streets of Gotham as Bruce uses every trick in his book to bring down his former ally and friend.

Hunter missiles, sonic guns, and the entirety of Gotham’s electrical grid are just a sample of what Batman puts Superman through. Though none of it really has any effect other than making him angry, what ultimately brings Big Blue down is a kryptonite tipped arrow shot by Oliver Queen (The Green Arrow). Even though Batman isn’t the one who fired it, the win still goes to him, as the kryptonite was completely synthesized by Bruce. The arrow doesn’t kill Superman, but it’s made abundantly clear that if Batman wanted it to kill him, he could have. This brawl, and Batman’s victory over the Man of Steel, culminates in one of the most chilling Batman quotes of comic history: “I want you to remember, Clark, in all the years to come, in your most private moments, I want you to remember my hand at your throat. I want you to remember the one man who beat you!”

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Source: DC Comics

4. Red Kryptonite
Speaking of synthesizing kryptonite, Batman has gone out of his way to make multiple forms of the substance in the past. One particular type was known as red kryptonite and was used in theJLA comic book arch Tower of Babel from July through October of 2000. It’s important to note when discussing Batman’s many victories over Superman, that Tower of Babel wasn’t technically Batman defeating Superman. The story centers around Ra’s al Ghul enacting a sort of failsafe program created by Batman to take out every prominent hero of the Justice League. So even though it is only Batman’s plan that is defeating Superman in this case, that technicality is overshadowed by the fact he has devised a plan for taking out every one of the planets strongest heroes.

The use of red kryptonite on Superman has an opposite effect on him than traditional green colored kryptonite; it makes him stronger…by turning his skin transparent. Superman gets his powers from the rays of Earth’s yellow sun, so with transparent skin he absorbs way more solar energy and his powers completely sky rocket beyond control.
 

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4 Ways Batman Has Already Defeated Superman


In the world of comics there are few names that carry as much weight and meaning behind them than Superman and Batman. Both are considered cultural phenomena in their own right while simultaneously acting as foils to each other. The differences in strengths, methods, and principles are so clashing that it often leads to disagreement between the two; sometimes even straight up altercation, as happens in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Though it may seem that Superman would obviously have the upper hand in these moments, one should never underestimate the resourcefulness of The World’s Greatest Detective. Time and time again Batman has proven not only formidable, but even superior, to the Man of Steel. How has Batman, a man with no inherent super powers, managed to defeat the Man of Steel over and over again?

1. Kryptonite Ring
Kryptonite-Superman-640x360.jpg

Source: DC Comics

What do you do if you’re a writer and you’ve created a character like Superman with a never-ending list of abilities including complete invulnerability? You make up kryptonite, the fictional mineral that conveniently takes away all of your hero’s super powers. While it’s not the most creative plot device, it is unquestionably the most useful tool when bringing down the Man of Steel.

Batman is actually given a kryptonite ring by Superman under the pretense that someone needs to be able to stop the Kryptonian if he were to ever go rogue, which has happened on multiple occasions, usually in the form of mind control. One such example occurs in the Batman story arc known as Hush, which ran from December 2002 until September 2003. In it, Poison Ivy has Superman under her control and Batman is forced to use the ring against his friend. It’s important to note that the ring is not the only thing that ensures Batman’s victory. According to Batman, Superman’s biggest weakness isn’t kryptonite; it’s that deep down Clark Kent is a good person, while Batman is not.

2. Lois Lane
hush12sr9-631x500.jpg

Source: DC Comics

As stated above, kryptonite is not the only weakness Superman has. In the same comic,Hush, Superman is fully capable of overpowering Batman and crushing him, ring or no ring. Being fully aware of this fact, Batman comes up with a fool-proof plan to defeat his old friend. The fight itself is essentially a ruse to distract Superman, while Catwoman, under Batman’s orders, kidnaps Lois Lane, Superman/Clark Kent’s love. Batman then plans to have Catwoman drop Lois Lane off a skyscraper in plain view of Superman. Upon seeing the love of his life falling to her death, Superman snaps out of Poison Ivy’s mind control and rescues Lois, flying her to safety.

This indirectly foils Poison Ivy’s scheme and directly ends the fight with Superman on Batman’s own terms. Not only is this ruthless plan a perfect illustration of Batman’s differing opinion between himself and Superman as mentioned above (it’s hard to believe that a “good” person would be willing to drop an innocent bystander from a building), but it is also an excellent example of Bruce’s near-omniscient knowledge of his opponents.

3. Kryptonite Arrow
TKDR_R4_05499-640x360.jpg

Source: WB Animation

When fighting Superman, it almost always comes back to kryptonite (assuming Superman’s girlfriend isn’t around to toss off of a skyscraper). In Frank Miller’s 1986 comic, The Dark Knight Returns, Superman is charged with bringing in an aging Batman who won’t give up his (illegal) vigilantism. In an iconic battle, Batman famously goes toe to toe with Superman wearing a fully armored Batsuit. The battle rages throughout the streets of Gotham as Bruce uses every trick in his book to bring down his former ally and friend.

Hunter missiles, sonic guns, and the entirety of Gotham’s electrical grid are just a sample of what Batman puts Superman through. Though none of it really has any effect other than making him angry, what ultimately brings Big Blue down is a kryptonite tipped arrow shot by Oliver Queen (The Green Arrow). Even though Batman isn’t the one who fired it, the win still goes to him, as the kryptonite was completely synthesized by Bruce. The arrow doesn’t kill Superman, but it’s made abundantly clear that if Batman wanted it to kill him, he could have. This brawl, and Batman’s victory over the Man of Steel, culminates in one of the most chilling Batman quotes of comic history: “I want you to remember, Clark, in all the years to come, in your most private moments, I want you to remember my hand at your throat. I want you to remember the one man who beat you!”

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Source: DC Comics

4. Red Kryptonite
Speaking of synthesizing kryptonite, Batman has gone out of his way to make multiple forms of the substance in the past. One particular type was known as red kryptonite and was used in theJLA comic book arch Tower of Babel from July through October of 2000. It’s important to note when discussing Batman’s many victories over Superman, that Tower of Babel wasn’t technically Batman defeating Superman. The story centers around Ra’s al Ghul enacting a sort of failsafe program created by Batman to take out every prominent hero of the Justice League. So even though it is only Batman’s plan that is defeating Superman in this case, that technicality is overshadowed by the fact he has devised a plan for taking out every one of the planets strongest heroes.

The use of red kryptonite on Superman has an opposite effect on him than traditional green colored kryptonite; it makes him stronger…by turning his skin transparent. Superman gets his powers from the rays of Earth’s yellow sun, so with transparent skin he absorbs way more solar energy and his powers completely sky rocket beyond control.
And Goku's died more times than Kenny in South Park, what's your point?
 

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Not so super if he gets beat by a human....

Id rather be a sayian... Thats my point...
Do you actually read comics? Like during infinite crisis where Superman admits he lets batman win or the issue where he choked Bruce so hard he left his fingerprints permanently embedded on his neck? Where wonder woman had to save him?
 

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Did they ever explore the idea that some older elite kryptonions found out bout their yellow sun powers and kept that knowledge to themselves like cacs do today??? Because a planet full of gods would make the battleground equel so they cancel all exploration so nobody else finds out.

But when jor el catches on they slander him then blow the fukkin planet???

So that is why they blew the planet up?! Petty ass people
 

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So that is why they blew the planet up?! Petty ass people


NAH just a lil fan theory i thought of myself awhile back which i thought would be kind of dope and would kinda explain why an elite society at its peak wouldnt listen to their top scientist. Everybody would be equel under a yellow sun instead of a few gods a small group would benefit.

Think of it as a kryptonion illuminati or Rothschilds
 

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Batman 4 superman 0

Not so super if he gets beat by a human....

Id rather be a sayian... Thats my point...

So if context doesn't matter, didn't Goku get knocked out by a random laser gun from a Frieza lackey?

Superman doesn't instantly kill Batman because Supes likes Batmam. We've seen Supermam go serious for a split second and there is nothing Batman can do to protect himself. Supes has literally dropped Batman in another country before he could finish a sentence.
 
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