Would we have wack ass Beyonce if Aaliyah didnt die?

[T.H.E. Goat]

I like Aaliyah's music but she's not a better singer than Beyonce at all

 

[zerozero]

Really.....

So that's why Beyonce needed to put Jay-Z, Sean Paul, Usher & Slim Thug on her first 4 singles? You young dudes shouldn't speak on shyt you don't remember.

she was also mostly naked in the vids.. it was very noticeable to me around that time how she used sexuality to vault over Kelly Rowland

 

[YBE]

I don't think there was a "need" to put Jay Z and Sean Paul on the first two singles. With Jay, it was a smart move coming off of "Bonnie and Clyde '03" to have him on the first single. The relationship between them didn't hurt either. Sean Paul seemed to be more strategic because he was popular at the time. "Me, Myself and I" and "Naughty Boy" had no features though.

Columbia had every right to be hesitant though, because they tried to launch Kelly Rowland first by piggybacking off of the success of "Dilemma". She came with "Can't Nobody", but it didn't take off. With Beyonce, they tried to launch her with the Neptunes produced lead single, "Work It" for that Austin Powers' movie soundtrack didn't really take off either.

Either way, Beyonce was going to be huge regardless. She had the name and the look. She was actually doing solo appearances in the early Destiny's Child days. Once I saw her featured solo on Missy's Da Real World, I figured the solo thing was next. The same year she was featured as the love interest in Case's "Happily Ever After" video. Then came the movies

I'm glad there's some old heads on here...

I agree except the Jay part. It was strategic being that "Bonnie & Clyde" had just dropped but, Jay was that dude in 2002/2003, Columbia knew what they doing putting him on her lead single. The fact that she had all those features & cameos kinda strengthens my point. They were unsure & wanted to make sure she crossed over. Ashanti didn't have all those features on her debut. Alicia Keys didn't either.

I just cringe whenever people put Beyonce over all the other chicks during that time. It's complete revisionist history. Destiny's Child? sure. Top selling group. But nobody knew if Bey could do it solo. Back then, Alicia Keys/Ashanti/Aaliyah was hotter as solo artists. Then Bey took off.

 

[Brief Keef]

beyonce never made a song hotter than "hot like fire remix" or "back in one piece"

 

[DANJ!]

Really.....

So that's why Beyonce needed to put Jay-Z, Sean Paul, Usher & Slim Thug on her first 4 singles? You young dudes shouldn't speak on shyt you don't remember. At the time, Destiny's Child was hella successful but, there's was a question if Beyonce could do it solo & Columbia put every hot artist at the time on her shyt to make sure she did.

It was almost like people let out a sigh of relief once "Crazy In Love" took off....

Assumptions will always get the best of you... "you young dudes"? Nah bruh... Old enough to remember CLEARLY when Aaliyah debuted, so I can speak on it.

Beyonce didn't drop out of nowhere with "Crazy In Love". The year Aaliyah died, Beyonce was the lead singer (and the face) of a group that damn near sold 10 million off one album. To think she couldn't have done even half of that solo is nuts. Aaliyah's death did not facilitate Beyonce's success in any way/shape/form. It was gonna happen anyway. With or without Jay or Sean Paul, those singles woulda blown. You think Beyonce NEEDED Sean Paul on "Baby Boy" more than Sean Paul prob'ly benefited from being on a Beyonce single, or that she needed Slim Thug on her single more than Slim Thug benefited from being on hers?

You old dudes shouldn't let your automatic allegiance to the older artist cloud your perception of reality.

 

[DougFunnY]

Dancing: Beyonce

Performance: Beyonce

Singing: Beyonce

Looks: I prefer Aaliyah. She had that beautiful angelic face. Beyonce has the better body though.

Overall, I think Aaliyah made MUCH better music than Beyonce...but there was nothin she could do to stop B from blowing up. I'll say it again...Aaliyah made better music, but Beyonce is a force in the game

 

[YBE]

Beyonce didn't drop out of nowhere with "Crazy In Love". The year Aaliyah died, Beyonce was the lead singer (and the face) of a group that damn near sold 10 million off one album. To think she couldn't have done even half of that solo is nuts.

Alicia Key's first singles:
"Fallin"
"A Woman's Worth"
"How Come You Don't Call Me"

Ashanti's first singles:
"Foolish"
"Baby"
"Happy"

Aaliyah's first singles:
"Age Ain't Nothing But a Number"
"Back & Forth"
"At Your Best"

Beyonce's first singles:
"Crazy In Love" ft. Jay-Z
"Baby Boy" ft. Sean Paul
"Naughty Girl


Now explain to me, why Beyonce, a chick who had soooooo much clout & star power then had the most features out of all these girls?








































I'll wait

 

[Jone2three45]

Aaliyah has songs that I still play in this day. One in a million>>>any Destiny child song.
Bey is the more bigger pop star though, only in this era. We are living in a time where it is the same few singers and rappers coming out all the time and on the same remixes. Unlike the 90's where competition was heavy then. This is like comparing records to digital downloads, one is fast in cheaper and is the only way to get music where as buying and collecting records has meaning in value. There are plenty of singers better than Bey but she is the only female out here singing besides rih. SWV>>>>DC.

 

[swerve]

Yeah and back when Aaliyah was shutting shyt down the competing acts had names like Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston and Toni Braxton

 

[Jone2three45]

Aaliyah would be where Ri Ri is right now without all the drama surrounding her. Beyonce is way to talented to not have broke through on here on after Destiny Child.
It would be Aaliyah and Beyonce neck and neck with Aaliyah being the bigger star Imho.

at Aaliyah not being able to sing Can I Come Over >>>>

Aaliyah- Come Over - YouTube

. puts my mind at ease everytime I hear it her voice

RI wouldn't even be here if Aaliyah was alive because music would be different from what it is now. And death plays a lot in the roles of the future. If you go back in time and kill a butterfly you can drastically change the course of the future.

 

[swerve]

RI wouldn't even be here if Aaliyah was alive because music would be different from what it is now. And death plays a lot in the roles of the future. If you go back in time and kill a butterfly you can drastically change the course of the future.

Asston Kusher taught me that

 

[Fredrick Thuglas]

I shouldn't have watched those Aaliyah videos....brought back too many memories.

I still miss her brehs

 

[ManBearPig]

I'm not a fan of either "musically" but Aaliyah cant sing all that well. Beyonce can and have a sweet ass.

 

[LadyElle0301]

Alicia Key's first singles:
"Fallin"
"A Woman's Worth"
"How Come You Don't Call Me"

Ashanti's first singles:
"Foolish"
"Baby"
"Happy"

Aaliyah's first singles:
"Age Ain't Nothing But a Number"
"Back & Forth"
"At Your Best"

Beyonce's first singles:
"Crazy In Love" ft. Jay-Z
"Baby Boy" ft. Sean Paul
"Naughty Girl


Now explain to me, why Beyonce, a chick who had soooooo much clout & star power then had the most features out of all these girls?








































I'll wait

You're reaching and completely forgetting about that B was already established. Everyone in the industry already knew Beyonce so of coarse people are jumping on her album. She had the money and the resources to do that.

Alicia and Aaliyah were pretty much nobodies before their single dropped.

 

[YBE]

You're reaching and completely forgetting about that B was already established. Everyone in the industry already knew Beyonce so of coarse people are jumping on her album. She had the money and the resources to do that.

Alicia and Aaliyah were pretty much nobodies before their single dropped.

uh huh.....sure