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if you know someone wants something and you use that fact to your advantage and use it to leverage things out of them solely for your own personal gain you are in fact a shytty person. sure nobody made them do that stuff but you didn't have to take advantage of it either. you could have just let them be.

any woman that goes out with a guy and leverages him into paying her way dangling sex as a carrot in front of him with little to no real interest in him is a shyt person.

women like to play these little bs games with circular idiot logic and say something along the lines of whoever ask the other person out should pay when they already know they don't ask men out so a man that wants to date women has to approach them and ask them out then feel like he should pay cause he asked.
like i said, wife-beaters and weak minded chicks, sugar daddies and trophy wives, bytches and simps, they all make lovely couples if you ask me. simping is a choice. even if the hoe has mercy on him and let's him be, he'll still go to some other golddigger,. even if she uses him and discards him, he'll still end up with another one most likely. cause simping is him. it's his role. the same way some girls always find a way to end up with guys who give them the jumpoff status. everyone knows a girl like that. she's always getting smutted but she thinks things will change one day. she wants the official title but she settles. and the guy uses her until he finds wifey. then she's heartbroken, says men are all dogs until she finds another dude who ends up treating her the same way, rinse and repeat. cause that's who she is. are the dudes that exploit her jerks? maybe. but that's who she's attracted to. if he doesn't do it, someone else will cause that's the type of dude she chooses. she's attracted to jerks, just like simps are attracted to bytches who will use them. trying to save a simp is like trying to save a hoe. they don't wanna be saved...

some dudes they learn seeing others fukk up. some learn through a good upbringing. some learn through their mistakes and other dudes giving them advice. me after a while i realized you could never change the game. all you can do is choose which position you play. i only try to school members of my tribe. but even them i can only tell them so many times...sometimes you can differentiate between someone who's usually on the right path and is just a little confused, and someone who simply chose another path. don,t even waste your breath on the latter. some people they just never learn and are bound to repeat the same mistakes over and over.
 

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Women don't like sex now? :beli:

The stupidity displayed in these threads never ceases to amaze me.

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if you know someone wants something and you use that fact to your advantage and use it to leverage things out of them solely for your own personal gain you are in fact a shytty person. sure nobody made them do that stuff but you didn't have to take advantage of it either. you could have just let them be.

any woman that goes out with a guy and leverages him into paying her way dangling sex as a carrot in front of him with little to no real interest in him is a shyt person.

women like to play these little bs games with circular idiot logic and say something along the lines of whoever ask the other person out should pay when they already know they don't ask men out so a man that wants to date women has to approach them and ask them out then feel like he should pay cause he asked.

You're living in fantasy land(no offense). The world is like this in every aspect of life. Once you realize this you would stop being hurt and if your smart you can learn to use this to your advantage. You act like spending $20-$40 once in a while is a burden and if it is you should be worried about getting more money and not p*ssy because if things go wrong you will be paying more then that for a good portion of your life.

If you study the woman's body and mind, learn how to manipulate it as well as learn your body and mind and learn how to work your thing, spending money will be rare and just chilling with you would make her happy because she knows she has access to good dikk and conversation. Don't follow porn because them nikkas don't know what the hell they're doing for the most part. They will be banging a chick like a rabbit and she is having a conversation with him when in reality if you know how to hit her nerves talking that much is the last thing she will be able to do. Short words is all she can use. The same for her when she knows how to use them vaginal muscles and tongue when giving head.

If you know how to communicate and have your life together then you are a king in her eyes and she will WANT to make you happy and you will have to decide if YOU want to settle down with her not the other way around. I give women credit because they tricked men into believing the bullshyt like what is good girls or bad girls and what they think about sex.

The number one thing that's important to get a woman is to have good conversation which is why being worldly and can talk about anything will get you any woman because you know what to say to a woman and when to say it. Sex and being stable is what get her locked in. Basically grow to be the shyt and everything else will come but if you want to front then the bullshyt with chicks will come also because they can see you're full of shyt after a while and will most likely use it to their gain instead of not dealing with you.
 

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like i said, wife-beaters and weak minded chicks, sugar daddies and trophy wives, bytches and simps, they all make lovely couples if you ask me. simping is a choice. even if the hoe has mercy on him and let's him be, he'll still go to some other golddigger,. even if she uses him and discards him, he'll still end up with another one most likely. cause simping is him. it's his role. the same way some girls always find a way to end up with guys who give them the jumpoff status. everyone knows a girl like that. she's always getting smutted but she thinks things will change one day. she wants the official title but she settles. and the guy uses her until he finds wifey. then she's heartbroken, says men are all dogs until she finds another dude who ends up treating her the same way, rinse and repeat. cause that's who she is. are the dudes that exploit her jerks? maybe. but that's who she's attracted to. if he doesn't do it, someone else will cause that's the type of dude she chooses. she's attracted to jerks, just like simps are attracted to bytches who will use them. trying to save a simp is like trying to save a hoe. they don't wanna be saved...

some dudes they learn seeing others fukk up. some learn through a good upbringing. some learn through their mistakes and other dudes giving them advice. me after a while i realized you could never change the game. all you can do is choose which position you play. i only try to school members of my tribe. but even them i can only tell them so many times...sometimes you can differentiate between someone who's usually on the right path and is just a little confused, and someone who simply chose another path. don,t even waste your breath on the latter. some people they just never learn and are bound to repeat the same mistakes over and over.
the philosophy of a simp in ingrained into out society. its called conventional dating wisdom.

society enforces the idea that a woman has a higher value than a man. if a man that cured cancer walked into a room and it was announced then a guy with Bar Refaeli on his arm walked in who's gonna get more respect?

trying to save a simp is not like trying to save a hoe. a hoe doesn't want to be saved she wants to be subsidized so she can maintain her present lifestyle. a simp doesn't want to simp he does it because he believes that's what it takes to get women to notice him and give him play. if you show a simp a better way and it actually works he will abandon simping.
 

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You're living in fantasy land(no offense). The world is like this in every aspect of life. Once you realize this you would stop being hurt and if your smart you can learn to use this to your advantage. You act like spending $20-$40 once in a while is a burden and if it is you should be worried about getting more money and not p*ssy because if things go wrong you will be paying more then that for a good portion of your life.

If you study the woman's body and mind, learn how to manipulate it as well as learn your body and mind and learn how to work your thing, spending money will be rare and just chilling with you would make her happy because she knows she has access to good dikk and conversation. Don't follow porn because them nikkas don't know what the hell they're doing for the most part. They will be banging a chick like a rabbit and she is having a conversation with him when in reality if you know how to hit her nerves talking that much is the last thing she will be able to do. Short words is all she can use. The same for her when she knows how to use them vaginal muscles and tongue when giving head.

If you know how to communicate and have your life together then you are a king in her eyes and she will WANT to make you happy and you will have to decide if YOU want to settle down with her not the other way around. I give women credit because they tricked men into believing the bullshyt like what is good girls or bad girls and what they think about sex.

The number one thing that's important to get a woman is to have good conversation which is why being worldly and can talk about anything will get you any woman because you know what to say to a woman and when to say it. Sex and being stable is what get her locked in. Basically grow to be the shyt and everything else will come but if you want to front then the bullshyt with chicks will come also because they can see you're full of shyt after a while and will most likely use it to their gain instead of not dealing with you.
i'm not into manipulating people. its undesirable to me. i'm an adult i can carry my own weight and when i meet a woman and we go out for the first time i expect her to cover her way. she's done nothing to earn me spending $40 on an evening with her so why should i pay?

you pay for a child because a child can't provide for themselves but an adult should want to pay their own way.
 

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i'm not into manipulating people. its undesirable to me. i'm an adult i can carry my own weight and when i meet a woman and we go out for the first time i expect her to cover her way. she's done nothing to earn me spending $40 on an evening with her so why should i pay?

you pay for a child because a child can't provide for themselves but an adult should want to pay their own way.
You asked her out. You should pay. It's that simple.
 

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Why are we paying women for something they want just as much as we do. We pay for dates we do all types of shyt just to give a woman something she is going to enjoy just as much as we do. The funny thing is women will openly admit that they enjoy sex just as much as we do but we still are the ones paying for everything.
You are showing a lady respect when you treat her. It's no big deal. That's a part of being a man.
 

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i'm not into manipulating people. its undesirable to me. i'm an adult i can carry my own weight and when i meet a woman and we go out for the first time i expect her to cover her way. she's done nothing to earn me spending $40 on an evening with her so why should i pay?

you pay for a child because a child can't provide for themselves but an adult should want to pay their own way.

Again, this is how the world is not how it should be. We shouldn't have to do a lot of things but this is how it is so what are going to do?. Crying isn't going to change anything. If you're smart you can turn this bullshyt we deal with to your advantage. I been where you're at and still feel like you but in the end you're in a game you can't win thinking like this so either don't play the game and just jerk off with porn, become celibate or be a intelligent person and learn the RULES of the game and manipulate it to your advantage.

Being that most people don't know why they do what they do you can be a GOD like figure because you know the rules and WHY people do what they do and play with it. When you learn just watch how people are so easy to manipulate and you get what you want out of them. To some it makes you foul but I been fukked up and damn near no one gave a shyt about me and all that good character meant nothing so I learned everything I needed to learn with introspection, creative thinking and testing my ideas on people to see what works and what doesn't. Now I know someones moves before they even do it or get them to react how I want them to and play them like chess but I don't hurt anyone because I'm not foul unless you pull my coat to be.

Another good way to learn people and manipulate them is to learn how to fight because it teaches you body language as well as how to learn the ways a person thinks and reacts.
 

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You asked her out. You should pay. It's that simple.
my point is for the average guy the whole you asked her out you pay is circular logic because a woman is never going to ask him out and offer to pay at least in the beginning. if he's going to interact with her he's probably gonna have to ask her out and he'll have to pay. the game is rigged from the start.

You are showing a lady respect when you treat her. It's no big deal. That's a part of being a man.
that's not part of being a man or showing respect its a low level manipulation tactic where in you offer the lady something of value in hopes to get something of value from her in return.

or do you honestly believe the bullshyt that a man pays because he wants to show respect. if so remove the potential of sex from the equation and see if he still feels obliged to show respect.

you go dutch on the first date. you don't treat people you don't even know unless its an act of charity.
 

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I been where you're at and still feel like you but in the end you're in a game you can't win thinking like this so either don't play the game and just jerk off with porn, become celibate or be a intelligent person and learn the RULES of the game and manipulate it to your advantage.
no i feel like i have my own apartment a tv and a dvd player so either we meet up at her place or we meet up at my place and make it a movie night. if she demands more than that drop her and move on. if that works in the beginning and later she wants to go out on a date i tell her that's cool and we go and i don't offer to pay anything for her.

if we go out to eat and the check comes i tell the waitress the bill is separate and pay my share. if we're at the movies i ask for one ticket to the movie then step aside and let her get hers.

she doesn't like that then i'm probably not the guy for her and she should deal with someone else. i don't wanna deal with children that expect to be provided for anyway.
 

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my point is for the average guy the whole you asked her out you pay is circular logic because a woman is never going to ask him out and offer to pay at least in the beginning. if he's going to interact with her he's probably gonna have to ask her out and he'll have to pay. the game is rigged from the start.

Bruh, women have asked me out and HAVE PAID. The game is what it is. You can cry about shyt not being fair all you want. That's life.
 

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Bruh, women have asked me out and HAVE PAID. The game is what it is. You can cry about shyt not being fair all you want. That's life.
that's happened to me as well but never on the first date. back when i believed in relationships and all that and was willing to let a woman pay they did pay on subsequent dates but never the first.

in actuality i don't have a problem eventually treating a person i know that has real value to me just because i feel like it but if we're just starting the whole dating game and i don't know her i'm not paying to take out a person i might not even like.

you act like my attitude that in the beginning we both should go dutch until we know each other is so unrealistic or impractical.
 

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that's happened to me as well but never on the first date. back when i believed in relationships and all that and was willing to let a woman pay they did pay on subsequent dates but never the first.

in actuality i don't have a problem eventually treating a person i know that has real value to me just because i feel like it but if we're just starting the whole dating game and i don't know her i'm not paying to take out a person i might not even like.

you act like my attitude that in the beginning we both should go dutch until we know each other is so unrealistic or impractical.

I'm saying I've had women pay on 1st dates. I had a few always pay and I felt like a fukking loser.

There's nothing worng with going dutch...as long as yall agree on it beforehand.
 
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