Wilt Chamberlain vs Dwight Howard vs MJ vs Iguodala (scaled image)

[dantheman9758]

He's basically 6"9 with shoes on, and he went into training camp last year at 264lbs

yah he's prob just over 6-8 with shoes on so depending on how you look at it 6-8 to 6-9 with shoes. NBA players these days don't list by their biological height, they usually have list info that is (sometimes very) loosely based on their height with shoes... though to be honest I don't even buy the notion anymore that "players list based on height in shoes" draftexpress shows nothing but erratic list heights with almost no correlation to shoes.... Dwight is 6-10.25 with shoes on, aint no way you can justify callin him 6-11 that aint how rounding works. And guys like Kevin Love 6-7.75 w/o shoes listed 6-10 - he wearin spice girl shoes? Some list info is better than others, but really I hardly even see a pattern with shoe height to list height, I think a players list height is sorta just w/e they want it to be as long as it is close enough to their actual height or shoes height so as not to come under scrutiny... but then u got a guy like Durant who spoils it for everyone by choosing to list in his barefoot height lol, he lists 6-9 which was his barefoot height, yet on the floor people definitely have noticed hes as tall as "6-11" Dwight Howard so now they keep callin him 6-11

 

[killacal]

He's basically 6"9 with shoes on, and he went into training camp last year at 264lbs

So he weighs 6lbs less then Karl fukkin Malone

 

[Malta]

So he weighs 6lbs less then Karl fukkin Malone

The difference could be in their legs, LeBron has huge calves/legs

Example who weighs more -

Drummond was 279lbs and around 290-300lbs @ Uconn, Dwight is listed between 265-275lbs, Drummond has tree trunk legs, Dwight has chicken legs.

 

[Malta]

yah he's prob just over 6-8 with shoes on so depending on how you look at it 6-8 to 6-9 with shoes. NBA players these days don't list by their biological height, they usually have list info that is (sometimes very) loosely based on their height with shoes... though to be honest I don't even buy the notion anymore that "players list based on height in shoes" draftexpress shows nothing but erratic list heights with almost no correlation to shoes.... Dwight is 6-10.25 with shoes on, aint no way you can justify callin him 6-11 that aint how rounding works. And guys like Kevin Love 6-7.75 w/o shoes listed 6-10 - he wearin spice girl shoes? Some list info is better than others, but really I hardly even see a pattern with shoe height to list height, I think a players list height is sorta just w/e they want it to be as long as it is close enough to their actual height or shoes height so as not to come under scrutiny... but then u got a guy like Durant who spoils it for everyone by choosing to list in his barefoot height lol, he lists 6-9 which was his barefoot height, yet on the floor people definitely have noticed hes as tall as "6-11" Dwight Howard so now they keep callin him 6-11

I'm 6"2......with shoes on

 

[killacal]

The difference could be in their legs, LeBron has huge calves/legs

Example who weighs more -

Drummond was 279lbs and around 290-300lbs @ Uconn, Dwight is listed between 265-275lbs, Drummond has tree trunk legs, Dwight has chicken legs.

Dwight is a skinny guy who put on muscle. Drummond has a bigger frame as does cousins. But no way Lebron and Malone are that close breh. Im chalking this up to Lebron trying to seem larger then life

 

[killacal]

The difference could be in their legs, LeBron has huge calves/legs

Example who weighs more -

Drummond was 279lbs and around 290-300lbs @ Uconn, Dwight is listed between 265-275lbs, Drummond has tree trunk legs, Dwight has chicken legs.

Dwight is a skinny guy who put on muscle. Drummond has a bigger frame as does cousins. But no way Lebron and Malone are that close breh. Im chalking this up to Lebron trying to seem larger then life

 

[dantheman9758]

Dwight is a skinny guy who put on muscle. Drummond has a bigger frame as does cousins. But no way Lebron and Malone are that close breh. Im chalking this up to Lebron trying to seem larger then life

Maybe Karl Malones list info is off tho?

 

[Malta]

Dwight is a skinny guy who put on muscle. Drummond has a bigger frame as does cousins. But no way Lebron and Malone are that close breh. Im chalking this up to Lebron trying to seem larger then life

NBA players lose weight as the season goes on (Michael Sweetney, Eddy Curry and Boris Diaw excluded), he went into training camp at 264lbs, doesn't mean he was playing at that weight. Also, he was 245lbs @ 18 verified at the combine this is what he looked like at 245lbs -

This is what he looks like today -

You think he's only 5lbs heavier today?

 

[L&HH]

Some of u are a little surprised to see players barefoot heights of this era - I think a lot of fans in general aren't immediately aware that list info isn't usually an actual measurement of how tall players actually are. And also a lot of fans might see list heights from back in Wilt's day and come under the impression Wilt was just your typical '00's era sized "7 footer" and that his competition must have been short (like 6-9 listed Bill Russell). But Wilt was actually a legitimate freak, and his competition was actually typical (modern) sized in stature minus the gym mass, they weren't short.

Bill Russell for example, may have been listed only 6-9 but he was 6-9 5/8ths w/o shoes and had a 7-4 wingspan. Today and ever since the NBA started really trying to become extremely popular (Sometime coming into the Bird and Magic era) players have been "listed" larger than life. In Wilt's day u typically weren't listed a size unless you were at least that big.

Let's take a closer look at Bill Russell here, standing next to "7-0" Patrick Ewing to get an idea of this difference in how they started listing players from the old school era vs how they list players these days

There aren't many true 7 footers that play the game, there never has been, it's rare to be 7 feet tall I think statistically only like 30 people or so in the U.S. are actually 7 feet tall or taller. So for Wilt to be that big was special, and for him to be that big AND that athletic was just crazy. Just some food for thought

Oh here's big Bill with Yao

I always tell people, subtract at least 1.5" and like 15lbs for whatever is listed on athletes. Playing high school and going through the recruiting process showed you how much nikkas would lie about their size. Coaches lied for their players to make them more recruitable and I suppose what you said about their image makes sense as well.

 

[killacal]

NBA players lose weight as the season goes on (Michael Sweetney, Eddy Curry and Boris Diaw excluded), he went into training camp at 264lbs, doesn't mean he was playing at that weight. Also, he was 245lbs @ 18 verified at the combine this is what he looked like at 245lbs -

This is what he looks like today -

You think he's only 5lbs heavier today?

Im not buying those combine numbers like I dont believe Kemba walker has a 39.5' vertical

Heres his 39.5' jump starts at 54 secs [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW8oNTQYTDY&feature=relmfu"]Point Guard Agility Tests Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[killacal]

I always tell people, subtract at least 1.5" and like 15lbs for whatever is listed on athletes. Playing high school and going through the recruiting process showed you how much nikkas would lie about their size. Coaches lied for their players to make them more recruitable and I suppose what you said about their image makes sense as well.

Thats what im saying Lebron is doing this as is the rest of the league so i dont see his 260 245 now yes

 

[dantheman9758]

The Knicks look like kids next to 3 Wilt

 

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[dantheman9758]

Guess I should also add data to the last image of Wilt + Knicks

Carmelo Anthony
6-6.25 w/o shoes
7-0 wingspan
drafted 233lbs (currently listed 230)

Amare Stoudemire
6-8.5 w/o shoes
7-1.75 wingspan
drafted 233lbs (currently listed 245)

Tyson Chandler
6-11.5 w/o shoes
7-3 wingspan
drafted 224lbs (currently listed 240)

Wilt Chamberlain
7-1.06 w/o shoes
7-8 wingspan
1959, 258lbs rookie/draft weight
1962, 265lbs
1964, 320lbs training camp (overweight) , 292lbs after losing weight
1969, 300lbs
1984, 327lbs (post-NBA, working out with Arnold Schwarzenegger)
listed 250 first 5 seasons, 275 afterwards

 

[ThaBoyBam]

My bro is kinda like a star athlete. When this nikka was a sophomore, they listed him as 6'2" 185

shyt foreal. Since then, I never took none of this shyt seriously. It's all relative tho