Willie Lynch letter: The Making of a Slave

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If I owned slaves I'd be worried about how much cotton they're picking, not how they feel about each other's skin color or hair texture.
For some reason you don't understand that slavery without chains is more powerful than chattel.

You should realize that your family can control hundreds of slaves even if they are stronger and out number you... only because of the mental barriers they have been taught since children.

All of these divisions didn't come from thin air.
 

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The letter is fake... .. everyone our age has known that for like 15 years.
But the situation is real as fukk - you are lost if you can't see that. period.
Some of the things that's laid out in the letter is obviously exactly how it playing out.... and was the obvious intention.

Isn't that stating the obvious though?

The question should be if anyone needed a fake letter to tell them about problems that were already apparent? Sure, for the sake of "waking people up" to what's going on I guess that's fine. Maybe for some people it's a starting point so I won't totally trash it, but intellectual dishonesty is the worst thing we can do to black folks looking to understand the situation. There's no more important wake up call than gathering real facts and thinking critically. At the end of the day, propping up a fake document regardless of how poignant the message may be doesn't really solve the issue. The issue is ignorance of the system in place, the root causes of black problems today, and how these forms of division pointed out in the letter came about and how to get rid of them. It's the weakness of the movement after it's successes, you got people like Farrakhan is bringing up false documents, but his more studious teacher Malcolm was bringing up facts. Need to be more like Malcolm, less like Farrakhan.
 
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Isn't that stating the obvious though?

The question should be if anyone needed a fake letter to tell them about problems that were already apparent? Sure, for the sake of "waking people up" to what's going on I guess that's fine. Maybe for some people it's a starting point so I won't totally trash it, but intellectual dishonesty is the worst thing we can do to black folks looking to understand the situation. There's no more important wake up call than gathering real facts and thinking critically. At the end of the day, propping up a fake document regardless of how poignant the message may be doesn't really solve the issue. The issue is ignorance of the system in place, the root causes of black problems today, and how these forms of division pointed out in the letter came about and how to get rid of them. It's the weakness of the movement after it's successes, you got people like Farrakhan is bringing up false documents, but his more studious teacher Malcolm was bringing up facts. Need to be more like Malcolm, less like Farrakhan.
I really don't know anyone who is pro black that doesn't know that the letter is fake.

plus most pro black people who aren't afrocentrist.. Only view things from a fact based prospective...

I don't think anyone props up this document, I think it's a fictional way of laying it out.... because it is fake but those divisions and that intention was/is not fake.

and fyi, farrakhan spit that when he saw it but then examined that it was fake... but then still stated the causes and architectural design of white supremacy - which ended up being the same damn thing anyway. Malcolm didn't always spit 100% fact in the beginning but then he grew as well... Most people go through that transition.
 

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I really don't know anyone who is pro black that doesn't know that the letter is fake.

plus most pro black people who aren't afrocentrist.. Only view things from a fact based prospective...

I don't think anyone props up this document, I think it's a fictional way of laying it out.... because it is fake but those divisions and that intention was/is not fake.

and fyi, farrakhan spit that when he saw it but then examined that it was fake... but then still stated the causes and architectural design of white supremacy - which ended up being the same damn thing anyway. Malcolm didn't always spit 100% fact in the beginning but then he grew as well... Most people go through that transition.

I don't know how it is in your town, but pro blackness where I'm from can be dicey cuz some people will come at you on some smart dumb nikka shyt so you gotta check em or just let em bark their smart dummy lines on and on. To me, that's the most dangerous thing to pro blackness as it compromises legitimacy and I don't mean legitimacy from whites but amongst those of us that want to honestly find the answers. Being an Afrocentrist is a fine line to walk, it should have its roots in fact but ask questions and pose theories or beliefs to be proven in time with fact based research.

My thing is, why a fake letter to point out those divisions? They couldn't of been more obvious by that point. It's not a good look if the only way we can spread facts is through fictitious documents. I don't disagree that it's a good thing to put those divisions in the forefront but its a problem when it takes fake documents to do so. As for the Farrakhan/Malcolm part I'd like to think Malcolm was much more right than he was wrong in his debates and most of his wrong was from the retarded NOI story of creation. The point I'm tryna make is that a factually intelligent black people is much more effective and dangerous to the status quo than a nominally informed one, especially if that information is rooted in make believe documents. Yeah, we know there are divisions....why though? Who created these divisions? How do they relate to the past? The letter is just a creative way of acknowledging current obstacles for black unity, but there's no bigger obstacle for equality than anti-intellectual behaviors.

I'll put it this way, if the Willie Lynch letter gets a reader to ask more questions and get answers then it did it's job. If the reader just assumes that everything in the document is right because it relates to the present so much then it's a hinderance. Which of those you think people are more likely to do?
 

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If I owned slaves I'd be worried about how much cotton they're picking, not how they feel about each other's skin color or hair texture.
you're not thinking like a person that would need to keep the slaves subservient to their slave masters...use your brain
 

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For some reason you don't understand that slavery without chains is more powerful than chattel.

You should realize that your family can control hundreds of slaves even if they are stronger and out number you... only because of the mental barriers they have been taught since children.

All of these divisions didn't come from thin air.

It happened naturally.

Stop looking for someone to blame.
 

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you're not thinking like a person that would need to keep the slaves subservient to their slave masters...use your brain

Slave masters in the 18th/19th century wasn't going to those lengths though, extreme violence and brutality as well as a reward system for obedience and loyalty was more than enough to control most slaves. Even so, it was always a precarious relationship between master and slave defined by the struggle between the absolute control of the master and unrelenting resistance of the slave. But the means of control weren't as intricate as described in the Lynch letter.
 

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you're not thinking like a person that would need to keep the slaves subservient to their slave masters...use your brain

And having slaves dislike their physical features is going to make them more subservient to their owner how? :beli: The document doesn't even make sense.

They instilled inferiority by teaching them that Africans were scientifically beneath whites (using irrelevant things like skull shape). They used the Christian religion (the Holy Bible) as further 'proof' that the institution of slavery was not a sin. They didn't allow them to learn how to read and write. Those were the kind of divisions that were being made.
 

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And having slaves dislike their physical features is going to make them more subservient to their owner how? :beli: The document doesn't even make sense.

They instilled inferiority by teaching them that Africans were scientifically beneath whites (using irrelevant things like skull shape). They used the Christian religion (the Holy Bible) as further 'proof' that the institution of slavery was not a sin. They didn't allow them to learn how to read and write. Those were the kind of divisions that were being made.

question, are you Black and what city do you live in?

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And having slaves dislike their physical features is going to make them more subservient to their owner how? :beli: The document doesn't even make sense.

They instilled inferiority by teaching them that Africans were scientifically beneath whites (using irrelevant things like skull shape). They used the Christian religion (the Holy Bible) as further 'proof' that the institution of slavery was not a sin. They didn't allow them to learn how to read and write. Those were the kind of divisions that were being made.

Basically. The whole justification of slavery was a sick sense of patriarchal duty to the slaves, that they inferior of body and mind compared to whites so they had to be good parents and mind the babies. I think part of what made slavery so absolute in America was its ability to create that dependency complex and maintain it so well throughout the subsequent generations. It was the slave master's obsession to keep up that aura of the planter gentry, part of that was having loyal, orderly, and obedient slaves and so I doubt you'd have much order with slaves at odds over age or color.
 

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And having slaves dislike their physical features is going to make them more subservient to their owner how? :beli: The document doesn't even make sense.

They instilled inferiority by teaching them that Africans were scientifically beneath whites (using irrelevant things like skull shape). They used the Christian religion (the Holy Bible) as further 'proof' that the institution of slavery was not a sin. They didn't allow them to learn how to read and write. Those were the kind of divisions that were being made.
It would make them worship their slave masters even more nimrod....WTF do you have a brain?
 

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Whether it is a hoax or not is irrelevant. This is the systematic discourse of exactly what has occured in the black community. from slavery to segregation to the crack era.

Whether they followed this system textbook, or they did it subconsciously the cause and effect is innately true.
 

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It would make them worship their slave masters even more nimrod....WTF do you have a brain?

it's mind boggling how easily some people understand this concept and how absurd and non-sensical it is to others.

Black people's behavior today is a result of all of these wicked psychological games they played on our ancestors, and we have countless Black people today that just think we magically became dysfunctional over the years on our own.

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It is NOT a hoax. According to Dr. Frances Cress Welsing, it is REAL. William Orwonthe Lynch came straight from the caves of the Caucus mountains to bless Yakub's grafted devils with these PLUS LESSONS on de-melanating the pineal glands of Kemetian Moorish Original Hebrews.
 

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It would make them worship their slave masters even more nimrod....WTF do you have a brain?

Can you cite a particular slave narrative, slave owner's admission or abolitionist's observation that specifies this as a common tactic?

Why is it so hard to believe that self hatred formed naturally without a slave-master having to being so literal as to divide his slaves?
 
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