Will the United States survive a constitutional crisis?

[winb83]

We've reached a point now where a presidential candidate can't even lose an election without people rioting. Political tribalism is rotting this country out from the inside. I think it's pretty clear that we're never going back to a more civil level of politics. I think it's also clear that the republican party will likely be the source of such an event as they purge their party of people who even display a remote level of sense or decency.

This thing came down to a handful of people deciding not to test the fabric of the country in the last election. As that party rids themselves of people who would make such decisions we're likely going to have that crisis inside the next two presidential cycles. All it would take as a Trump like politician that's a bit more calculating and less egotistical to turn this whole thing on it's head.

For so long the republican party has bred a level of voter primed for someone like Trump to manipulate. Now that has come to pass and the party itself is afraid to stand up to the mob it's created. They all fall over themselves to serve the now out of control monster they helped make. They can't even give these people facts anymore. All they accept is what they want to hear.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

America’s time as the sole superpower isn’t going to be forever. Ironically enough, a lot of the things that are rotting this country away are fundamental building blocks of this country. Racism, exploitation, unrelenting loyalty to as pure of a capitalist model as possible, etc.

To save America is to radically change it for the better. For most, the rot is as American as freedom itself.

 

[winb83]

It feels like he's predicting the future here.

 

[Ya Sinning Mane]

Long as my coli brehs do fukk these states of Murica

 

[wire28]

i blame the dems

 

[winb83]

i blame the dems

I don't. It's just the way society is now. Biggie vs 2Pac, Nas vs Jay-Z, Apple vs Android, Marvel vs DC, Xbox vs PlayStation you see it in all these other places. People tribalized and taking sides and they want to see the other side fail just as much if not more so than they want to see their side win. The internet allowed people who normally wouldn't even encounter each other to come together and accelerate this. Society is too far gone now to pull back.

 

[mc_brew]

It feels like he's predicting the future here.

he nailed it too.... except he didn't mention trump will win in 2024 and what the fallout will be...

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The Capital insurrection dispelled any doubt that it’s only downhill from here. Once some shyt like that happens, it’s a wrap for your democracy or whatever you call a democracy. The social fabric/confidence in government has already started unraveling and the only question now is the timeline of how long it takes to devolve into something that is needed to be fled from.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I don't. It's just the way society is now. Biggie vs 2Pac, Nas vs Jay-Z, Apple vs Android, Marvel vs DC, Xbox vs PlayStation you see it in all these other places. People tribalized and taking sides and they want to see the other side fail just as much if not more so than they want to see their side win. The internet allowed people who normally wouldn't even encounter each other to come together and accelerate this. Society is too far gone now to pull back.

I hate these kinds of critiques because it's entirely too both sidesy for my taste. It boils people not wanting to live under fascism and oppression as "Taking a side" and makes it seem like there are no actual issues. There's only one "Side" that's currently a damn cult and it's not the ones that house as many different ideologies and beliefs as the Democratic Party.

 

[winb83]

I hate these kinds of critiques because it's entirely too both sidesy for my taste. It boils people not wanting to live under fascism and oppression as "Taking a side" and makes it seem like there are no actual issues. There's only one "Side" that's currently a damn cult and it's not the ones that house as many different ideologies and beliefs as the Democratic Party.

Do you really think the majority of Americans care about the issues deep down? If people really cared about this stuff the results of elections would reflect it. If most voters cared about issues Donald Trump would have never been elected. Most of these people treat politics like religion. They were born, handed a set of beliefs and went with that. Others accept the talking points of their news channel of choice without much thought.

There's not as many actually thinking about and analyzing what's going on and seeking the best path forward. That's why so many politicians can get elected and reelected over and over again.

 

[DEAD7]

I hate these kinds of critiques because it's entirely too both sidesy for my taste. It boils people not wanting to live under fascism and oppression as "Taking a side" and makes it seem like there are no actual issues. There's only one "Side" that's currently a damn cult and it's not the ones that house as many different ideologies and beliefs as the Democratic Party.

People on both sides view the opposing side as fascist and oppressive and conservatives describe progressivism as a cult all the time.
#perspective

 

[EndDomination]

The Democrats need to mobilize a large sect of the non-voting population through a perpetual campaign that isn't just tied to "get out to vote," or "Trump bad."

They need to either embrace the Left, and utilize their tactics in a way where the majority of the working-class population feels represented, or they will continue to lose and our civil rights will continue to be eroded. It isn't difficult either: they have the money and the staff for it - they simply refuse to do it.

Local participation increases participation in federal elections, creates permanent bases of power, and actually *improves the quality of life for the average American.*

The DNC and the other associated Democratic bodies are run by sheer morons and corrupt fools.

 

[EndDomination]

People on both sides view the opposing side as fascist and oppressive and conservatives describe progressivism as a cult all the time.
#perspective

The issue is that one of them is *actually* fascist and oppressive - "literally" eroding the rights of minority groups, increasing poverty, increasing subjugation, and outright destroying the quality of the life - while the other is mimicking their criticisms.

"Perspective" only matters if there is an equal basis for both viewpoints - there is not in this case, no matter how many billionaires and cops cry and throw tantrums.

 

[ORDER_66]

America did it to itself it was always rotten to the core only so long you can spackle and paint over the rotted foundation until it starts showing more and more. It will break. Everything is NOT ok... And they know it. fukk it let it burn.

Trump almost had a successful coup the first time and that shyt was a practice run. White folks get treated with kids gloves if that shyt happened anywhere else military would have shot to kill. Period. WHITE AMERICAN GOVT gonna learn placating those crazies...

 

[winb83]

People on both sides view the opposing side as fascist and oppressive and conservatives describe progressivism as a cult all the time.
#perspective

Don't confuse the TV talking points with reality. Like when they say socialist or socialism on TV it's just a word designed to incite a knee jerk reaction to a certain subset of viewers. It's not about actual socalism.