Do you remember those early 2000 Laker teams? What was everyone's biggest concern? Literally and figuratively?
How they gonna stop the big fella?
Who's gonna guard the big fella?
How many fouls do we have to use on the big fella?
When the Spurs challenged, who was the Lakers answer to Tim Duncan?
The Kings were a formidable foe, but had no answer but the husband of a former Hollywood actress, who happened to lose his job in LA for the same man...
The Blazers were loaded, but bruised by the end of their fight. I remember vividly Rasheed Wallace in an interview saying "We can't complain about how big he is. How many of us are putting in the time in the weight room to get big enough to stop him?"
He abused Rick Smits, bullied Mutombo, and toyed with Todd McCullugh in the Finals.
Shaq was a BEAST. A Behemoth. 1a, 1b, fine, I don't have a problem with that as long as you understand who is who. And there is no debating it.
That ends that debate.
As far as LeBron goes, you're comparing his half a career to the full careers of Jordan and Kobe. That's like saying a game is over at half time.