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That sure is a lot of Juelzing to justify AJ and Hearns being scary. Everyone who looks at this objectively understands that Wilder is definitely not the one holding up the unification. But hey, go rematch the fat little pig again and act like you’re doing something bruv.

Lol you can't be serious man, anybody looking at it objectively clearly sees Wilder and his team was holding it up. Wilder rejected 120 mil for the fight and previously before that multiple career high offers. How can anybody else possibly be holding it up when Wilder rejected the offers? It doesn't make any sense. Wilder is on video saying he rejected the 120 mil and he's also on video boasting about turning down like 5 or 6 career high offers. It's not even debatable, Wilder was the 1 who rejected multiple offers, if he hadn't the fight would have happened ages ago. That's exactly what holding it up means, making it happen later which he's done by rejecting the offers.
 
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Lol you can't be serious man, anybody looking at it objectively clearly sees Wilder and his team was holding it up. Wilder rejected 120 mil for the fight and previously before that multiple career high offers. How can anybody else possibly be holding it up when Wilder rejected the offers? It doesn't make any sense. Wilder is on video saying he rejected the 120 mil and he's also on video boasting about turning down like 5 or 6 career high offers. It's not even debatable, Wilder was the 1 who rejected multiple offers, if he hadn't the right would have happened ages ago. That's exactly what holding it up means, making it happen later which he's done by rejecting the offers.
Didn’t the offer come with a Dazn contract?
 

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Now recently Wilder also saying the fight will never happen, even though AJ has yet again said he is willing and wants it, Wilder wanted unification if Ruiz won, talking 1 face, 1 name again lol, now AJ won he's saying it will never happen. Pathetic...

"Deontay Wilder suggests he will NEVER fight Anthony Joshua and slams Brit despite revenge victory over Andy Ruiz Jr

AJ declared in the aftermath that he wants to face Wilder, but the American insisted: “I don’t think we’ll ever see a unification bout. We’ll never see it, and I don’t want people to get their hopes up on it because it’ll never happen".

He just don't want it with AJ for whatever reason, he's proved it time and time again by rejecting so many career high offers. Maybe he's too cowardly to fight anybody he might actually get hurt against, so instead he rematches aging fighters he's already knocked out. Sad.
 
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Didn’t the offer come with a Dazn contract?

The offer was 3 fights, 20 mil for the Breazeale fight (hugely overpaying) and 2 50 mils for both AJ fights. So it was 120 mil deal overall. There was no further commitment other than that, infact they even said if for some reason he didn't want the Breazeale fight there they could just do the 2 AJ fights but he said no to that too. They were doing him a favour by offering the Breazeale fight too as an option to give him even make money, an extra 20 mil. He didn't want either option and rejected it.
 
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After AJ won and said he wants the fight Wilder has now come out saying the fight will NEVER happen.

"Deontay Wilder suggests he will NEVER fight Anthony Joshua and slams Brit despite revenge victory over Andy Ruiz Jr

AJ declared in the aftermath that he wants to face Wilder, but the American insisted: “I don’t think we’ll ever see a unification bout. We’ll never see it, and I don’t want people to get their hopes up on it because it’ll never happen".

When it could be Ruiz he started talking about 1 face, 1 name again but now AJ won and he’s said he wants the fight Wilder is now saying it will NEVER happen...
 

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In terms of the fight, hypothetically at this point, if AJ got Wilder in trouble like Ortiz did in the first fight there’s a good chance he finishes him off and knocks him out or gets a stoppage. He’s got a lot more power than Ortiz and is a very good finisher. If Wilder’s bombs land he can knock AJ out too. It would be an amazing event, it’s such a shame Wilder won’t take the fight and is saying it will never happen as it would be massive for the sport.
 

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Wilder just needs that window where he can get that right hand off. But AJ is dangerous on the inside against tall fighters and I suspect that will be a big part of his game plan if the fight happens.

I just dont know if Wilders waiting around tactics will work with AJ.

Fight is 50/50 IMO - hopefully it gets made, would be the boxing event of the decade (2020 - 2030)
 

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Hearns continues Duck season into 2020...smh

Wilder is the one who rejected the 120 mil offer and other career high pay days. AJ has now again stated he wants the undisputed fight and Wilder is saying it will NEVER happen. He’s the 1 clearly ducking.
 
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The general public just aren't buying the bullshyt, read the comments under this post from the WBC, it's only delusional fan girls that refuse to accept reality that do...

 

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Wilder is the one who rejected the 120 mil offer and other career high pay days. AJ has now again stated he wants the undisputed fight and Wilder is saying it will NEVER happen. He’s the 1 clearly ducking.
Bruh chill out..femi regained his belts and showed a level...its all good..you dont want to be like the cats who talk canelo all the time do you? Talk about other things in boxing and be easy
 

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Bruh chill out..femi regained his belts and showed a level...its all good..you dont want to be like the cats who talk canelo all the time do you? Talk about other things in boxing and be easy

I'm replying to incorrect information being said. And have been talking about numerous other things also.
 

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This is AJ master and promoter, Eddie Hearn speaking.. Does this sound like someone thats trying to make fight with Wilder disrepecting Wilder and telling lies.. Wilder should be enthusiastic about doing business with someone like this???


AJ is tied up until well into 2021.. but somehow Wilder is freezing him out :mjlol:



Of course they're gonna duck.. Its been in the plan
"Yea if its this year, or next year, or the year after.. Its when im in position to win


Then you have clowns like @The Ruler 09 that will bring up Wilder turning down a DAZN offer.. An offer where DAZN's own president claims DAZN fukked up.

DAZN Exec Chairman John Skipper admits to “Messing Up” $100m Deontay Wilder deal! ⋆ Boxing News 24
“In retrospect, I was too brash going in there without creating the relationships I needed to create with the people who advised Deontay Wilder. I have now worked to do that. It has to do with going back to the education I needed before getting into boxing … When we left that (Wilder) meeting, I KNEW WE MESSED UP and that we weren’t going to be successful (Wilder)


He very well may be wrong/exaggerating about low PPV buys there. I’ve heard different reports so don’t know what is accurate. I don’t think the fight ever should have happened but if they did 270 thousand I think that’s decent numbers. It isn’t a huge gigantic success but it’s good for a fight that wasn’t really in huge demand. I think the Fury rematch can do 500 thousand plus.

It’s not about Hearn and Wilder liking eachother, they don’t need to. Doesn’t mean him and AJ can’t fight, rivals and enemies fight all the time.

AJ wanted the fight and the 120 million deal and other career high offers were made way before the mandatory would be called. That’s why they wanted it so badly then so it could be undisputed.

There’s no real evidence AJ is tied up well into 2021, he may be tied up now until early 2021 now yes, that’s why Wilder should have accepted it when both were free but he didn’t and tied HIMSELF up, that’s what actually happened. It’s irrelevant anyway because Wilder has signed to fight Fury and then fight him again, also it looks like he may have to fight Whyte, at least by February 2021 so that means he’s tied now till 2021. That’s what I was trying to explain to you the other day, there’s no point talking about AJ vs Wilder right now, it’s not happening anytime soon. AJ wants the fight so bad he’d even drop a belt to fight Wilder but Wilder has said the fight will NEVER happen, EVER. He refuses to fight AJ, I don’t know why. It’s not a fight that’s impossible for him to win so I don’t know why, seems like he doesn’t want to take the risk.

And the other points have already been rebuked and refuted so refer back to them.
 
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This is AJ master and promoter, Eddie Hearn speaking.. Does this sound like someone thats trying to make fight with Wilder disrepecting Wilder and telling lies.. Wilder should be enthusiastic about doing business with someone like this???


AJ is tied up until well into 2021.. but somehow Wilder is freezing him out :mjlol:



Of course they're gonna duck.. Its been in the plan
"Yea if its this year, or next year, or the year after.. Its when im in position to win


Then you have clowns like @The Ruler 09 that will bring up Wilder turning down a DAZN offer.. An offer where DAZN's own president claims DAZN fukked up.

DAZN Exec Chairman John Skipper admits to “Messing Up” $100m Deontay Wilder deal! ⋆ Boxing News 24
“In retrospect, I was too brash going in there without creating the relationships I needed to create with the people who advised Deontay Wilder. I have now worked to do that. It has to do with going back to the education I needed before getting into boxing … When we left that (Wilder) meeting, I KNEW WE MESSED UP and that we weren’t going to be successful (Wilder)

Not replying to all this but did hearn lie about no one caring about wilder look at his ppv versus Joshua's? Joshua is clearly the a side in this fight , I'd argue it should be 70/30 tbh
 
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