WIGGINS = is showing possible bust potential

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I'll just leave this here:

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Wiggins is currently 16.5
 

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Stop acting like the expectations we are talking about have anything to do with the offensive system run by Bill Self. :laff:

You an ole making b*tch made nikka. Can't stand dudes like you. Self ain't holding Wiggins back. Dude just isn't the player he's hyped up to be. 20 games into his college career, I think Wiggins understands this. Why not you?
nikka, Self has only had ONE player EVER at KU avg 20 for a season and that was Simien. Cut out the Stan agendas
 

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its amazing a freshman can average 17 points 6 boards, play top notch defense in the toughest conference in college basketball , shoot 46% from the floor 37% from threea dn near 80% at the free throw line and be called a bust :heh:
 

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Damn did you guys even watch the game this dude was just missing shots he got to the basket with ease ran the floor great but didnt get the lob at anytime of the game only thing i think he could work on is his jumper the rest will come


I watched the game and I watched hordes of his other games.
he has yet, to really be the hawk or have that dog in him.
I saw previously, in highschool comp.
he has no confidence and is completely lost on both sides of the ball.
plus, takes no authority from tipoff.

this is not supposed to be the guy who coasts.
this is supposed to be the guy head and shoulders above everyone.
yet, he is falling in perception and actual output to embiid.
plus, other guys he was supposed to have shown he was leaps and bounds better than.

parker is at duke...
where parket could get neutered.

yet, real talk...
parker, in the duke system.
is playing as a freshman like the best black duke player to lace them up as a freshie.
usually, you go to duke as a dog like this and get neutered.
only player at duke to not get neutered is mags.
as grant hill is the best ramped up pro player that is black from duke.
when, parket is playing better than both hill or mags at duke.
in a system, that typically limits superstar players.

do I have to cite other failed Chicago duke players, in comparison.
to show how good parker as a black top highschool player is looking, at duke as a freshie.
Gordon is playing better than he was a highschool player when it comes to the complextion of the game.

wiggins has not really helped his players to be better like parker.
nor, had wiggins made a wingman better like parker has hood.
wiggins right now, is playing third fiddle in Kansas.
when, he is supposed to be the best actual player in all of amateur basketball athletics.

that is a definite possible red flag to the future.

on top of the fact,..it seems it is mental and it does not seem he will pull out of it, before he is a pro.

I hope he gets it in the conference tournie, or the ncaa's..
I really do.....as I was definitely a wiggins is the guy, dude.
yet, wiggins does not look like that guy.

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I think the thing that's stopping him from being an elite player is his handle. He can't his shot off whenever he want because of this. Once he fix that the boy gon be a problem.
 

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I'll just leave this here:

History of No. 1 prospects (in their 1st year)
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Wiggins is currently 16.5


the only guy in that ranking...
who had that dog in him mentally was mayo.
the rest of the players were never that guy like that.
they may have had that ranking.
yet, they were not that player like wiggins is supposed to be.

not to mention,...oden, was that dog.
plus, played with his off hand, and a cast on his dominant hand.
that, oden had to learn while on the go.
on top of the possibility...that oden's awkward movement.
could have been a possible injury to his knee that was unreported.
so, it did not disturb his draft position.

wiggins is not injured and bigger and supposed to have a more sound mental makeup than, mayo.
in none of these games is wiggins going hog wild like mayo.
mayo had inferior coaching and two other wingmen who looked and played well as okay pro's.
wiggins has two teammates.
who are said to be possible number one draftpicks, in any other draft climate except for this year.

wiggins does not look like that guy, right now.

like I said I hope he ramps up.
as I am rooting on the kid.
yet, realistically......wiggins has not shown me anything remotely compared to what I saw of him.
when, tracking him in highschool, at all.

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I think the thing that's stopping him from being an elite player is his handle. He can't his shot off whenever he want because of this. Once he fix that the boy gon be a problem.


he had handle in college.

I think it could be the fact the change in landscape and the American feral attitude caught him off guard.
making it more mental, than an actual skill thing.
which is a bigger problems, as he is supposed to have innate confidence to succeed.
he has not shown that at all, in college.


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the only guy in that ranking...
who had that dog in him mentally was mayo.
the rest of the players were never that guy like that.
they may have had that ranking.
yet, they were not that player like wiggins is supposed to be.

not to mention,...oden, was that dog.
plus, played with his off hand, and a cast on his dominant hand.
that, oden had to learn while on the go.
on top of the possibility...that oden's awkward movement.
could have been a possible injury to his knee that was unreported.
so, it did not disturb his draft position.

wiggins is not injured and bigger and supposed to have a more sound mental makeup than, mayo.
in none of these games is wiggins going hog wild like mayo.
mayo had inferior coaching and two other wingmen who looked and played well as okay pro's.
wiggins has two teammates.
who are said to be possible number one draftpicks, in any other draft climate except for this year.

wiggins does not look like that guy, right now.

like I said I hope he ramps up.
as I am rooting on the kid.
yet, realistically......wiggins has not shown me anything remotely compared to what I saw of him.
when, tracking him in highschool, at all.

art barr
Name two other Top 25 draft rankings players on that USC squad? Plus Floyd ran a completely different system than Self
 

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I'll just leave this here:

History of No. 1 prospects (in their 1st year)
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Wiggins is currently 16.5

I don't understand the point of this chart:lupe:. I am assuming you are trying to say that he is doing good compared to recent No. 1 prospects. However, most these players to never became dominant or superstar players(or at least yet haven't). So to say he doing good compared to these players doesn't say much for someone who is suppose to be a superstar nba talent. I mean the point of this thread is about his nba potential if I'm correct. Most of these players aren't great nba players anyway.

But you could have meant something else. Could you explain:ld:
 

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breh....none of that has anything to do really with how he turns out in the NBA....you really dont know...its a crap shoot...


typically, when a talent like wiggins enters the league.
you know immediately off the bat.
immediately off the bat,...
you have to wait and see.
wiggins was not supposed to be a wait and see player, at all.


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nikka, Self has only had ONE player EVER at KU avg 20 for a season and that was Simien. Cut out the Stan agendas


which exposes wiggins as simien is nowhere near the prospect that wiggins is listed on paper.


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I don't understand the point of this chart:lupe:. I am assuming you are trying to say that he is doing good compared to recent No. 1 prospects. However, most these players to never became dominant or superstar players(or at least yet haven't). So to say he doing good compared to these players doesn't say much for someone who is suppose to be a superstar nba talent. I mean the point of this thread is about his nba potential if I'm correct. Most of these players aren't great nba players anyway.

But you could have meant something else. Could you explain:ld:
Comparing him to previous 1's
 
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typically, when a talent like wiggins enters the league.
you know immediately off the bat.
immediately off the bat,...
you have to wait and see.
wiggins was not supposed to be a wait and see player, at all.


art barr

nobody that really watches hoops thought/thinks this dude is really gonna be the next lebron...there will be no next lebron...lebron is a once in a life time type of player...

we'll just have to wait and see with this cat....he can run and dunk...and thats pretty much all ive seen him do...the nba is a whole other animal than what this cat is used to
 
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