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Why the Republicans just don't get it (Minimum Wage)
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In 1963, the minimum wage was equivalent to $9.53 today. But Congress has to fight to raise it from $7.25 to $9? It's fukking ridiculous. The CPI has skyrocketed, yet min. wage has literally decreased.
America wasn't resting on top of this debt either. You can't look at only one small part of a big picture and draw real conclusions.
America is different now for a lot of reasons.
Wtf does the deficit have to do with minimum wage? What government job pays $7.25?
Its all connected...
I think that's the biggest misconception running around. The idea that we can surgically cut parts of the economy out and examine them independently of the rest.
Ultimately out of control inflation and fiat currency is why we are here.
All controlled by the mecca of evil, that is the federal reserve.
How is it all connected breh? You make these blanket statements and never back them up.Its all connected...
I think that's the biggest misconception running around. The idea that we can surgically cut parts of the economy out and examine them independently of the rest.
Ultimately out of control inflation and fiat currency is why we are here.
All controlled by the mecca of evil, that is the federal reserve.
I'm starting to think some of you don't have even basic empathy for other human beings.
It's not about whether I get paid more or have to pay more in taxes, it's about what's best for society in general. And for the people who are unfortunate enough to be making minimum wage.
I'm certainly not thinking that an increase in the minimum wage would somehow mean I'd get a raise. And I don't think it'll lead to a tax cut...but I'm willing to pay more taxes if it's for something worthwhile.
I'd be willing to take a huge tax increase if it meant we could get universal healthcare.
Also, it's not good for the economy in general if all the wealth is concentrated at the top. That's how it was right before the Great Depression. A lot of yall don't seem to get or acknowledge that. If poor/working class people don't have enough money to buy goods and services, the economy will suck. Which is basically the current situation - the biggest cause of the slow economy is low consumer demand. And the low demand is because working class people just don't have enough disposable income.
Yet people seem to think giving more money to people who are already rich (and who will just pocket the money instead of spending it) is somehow good for the economy.
I'm certainly not thinking that an increase in the minimum wage would somehow mean I'd get a raise. And I don't think it'll lead to a tax cut...but I'm willing to pay more taxes if it's for something worthwhile.
and you're always free to do so and have always been, no one is stopping you. Its when you begin forcing other to, that we get these rifts.Your empathy and compassion are not things you should force upon others...IMHO.
Its when you begin forcing other to, that we get these rifts.Your empathy and compassion are not things you should force upon others...IMHO.
There are some things that can't be done at the individual level - we can't fund something like Universal Healthcare with voluntary donations. Or even basic public services.
If a tax is approved by democratically elected lawmakers, then it's not meaningful to count that as "forcing" someone to do something. At least not any more so than any other law. Unless you don't think the government should never be able to make anyone do anything...which would make you an anarchist .
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Whether people want to admit it or not, there is a living wage. Someone getting paid 7.25 an hour will be getting government subsidies, which means we are subsidizing their living expenses PERIOD. I'm not even going as far as to say that Wal-Mart should pay 16 an hour (not yet :smugfavre) but anything less than 12 an hour is complete and utter corporatism and wage slavery.
I wholeheartedly agree, but if people dont want to execute your plan, or dont share your vision, you dont force them to, because you think its better.
There are some things that can't be done at the individual leve
We just have different outlooks on morality... which supports the case for not forcing an objective morality on people.
can you prove that that a high minimum wage results in low skilled workers making more money instead of resulting in low skilled workers being unemployed?
if you dont understand that, then you cant speak seriously about what a company can and cant afford to do