Why the Republicans just don't get it (Minimum Wage)

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Yes, it's greedy and weevil when it's to the detriment of society?
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Ok, I ave figured out what i'm missing from the wal-mart shyt, and i need you guys to explain...

If wages have been stagnant across the board, and people are being underpaid everywhere because the entire economy is up a creek, how has wal-mart, who provides goods at low cost to those who need the cost reduction the most the bad guy?

You guys are literally in here campaigning for single mothers(dispoportiantely black) to have to pay more for diapers from a mom and pop store, than the low cost at wal-mart.:ufdup:

wal-mart also highers niqqas... straight up, they employ blacks :obama:
i've read threads here in HL about mom and pop business literally telling blacks no cause they black:whoo:

Wal-Mart is the leading employer of blacks in the nation, and ya'll in here hatin like this :scusthov: This is another liberal feel good initiative intending to do good, that will ultimately negatively impact blacks the most.:to:
 

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Breh, if you think the fact that $20 is something should hold on to and "invest" or stash away then there is clearly an issue here. I specifically used that number to lure someone in and you fell for the bait. Now if we were talking maybe $100 a check then we can start debating...but at $20 you can't even buy a decent shirt anymore. What kind of return are you going to see on $20 anyway? Some of you cats are in a bizarro world in where believe that many people who are in these shytty situations CHOOSE to be. Why don't you live that lifestyle and only give yourself a $20 cushion on paydays...don't save the extra money either and give it away. Let's see how you feel if you do that for a year+

You cannot expect EVERYONE to be like...yeah I only have $20 extra on each check so I am going to cook ALL my meals (1,100 or so in a year of 365x3) and not miss ONE...NOT GET LAZY ONCE, NOT RELAX ONCE. WHO wants to live like that? Is that acceptable to you breh?

A $20 bill stacked 26 times out of the year equates to $520 a year...do you really think that most people are going to sacrifice a bit of happiness that comes from spending a little extra left over money they have? Get real, a year full of no breaks and can only net $520 in my scenario won't even cover rent for most of the population.

The economy NEEDS and THRIVES on disposable income and if we have reached the point in where possibly spending $20 every 2 weeks constitutes as some sort of irresponsibility then our standard of living has not increased at all.

Buy a Pizza at work for lunch one day and stay broke until Payday brehs...THIS is what it has come down to apparently.
exactly. Some people don't realize the concept of "paycheck to paycheck". If at the end of the week you have even $100 left over you're fuked. Paying bills and having food is all good, but you know whats also awesome? Toothpaste. Shoes. Cloths. Bus fare. Getting your kid(s) a $5 gift for their birthday. Being able to get an antibiotic prescription filled. The general shyt in life that comes up that burns through $100 in a flash.

I'm all for personal sacrifice and having to eat noodles for a week, been there done that, builds character IMHO, but the human spirit can only handle so much of that shyt before it snaps. People are humans not robots, life is fluid and ever changing you can and should always plan ahead, but as they say "even the best laid plans of mice and men go astray"...I.E. shyt happens and $20-$100 bucks barely covers that.
 

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Ok, I ave figured out what i'm missing from the wal-mart shyt, and i need you guys to explain...

If wages have been stagnant across the board, and people are being underpaid everywhere because the entire economy is up a creek, how has wal-mart, who provides goods at low cost to those who need the cost reduction the most the bad guy?

You guys are literally in here campaigning for single mothers(dispoportiantely black) to have to pay more for diapers from a mom and pop store, than the low cost at wal-mart.:ufdup:

wal-mart also highers niqqas... straight up, they employ blacks :obama:
i've read threads here in HL about mom and pop business literally telling blacks no cause they black:whoo:

Wal-Mart is the leading employer of blacks in the nation, and ya'll in here hatin like this :scusthov: This is another liberal feel good initiative intending to do good, that will ultimately negatively impact blacks the most.:to:
you know who else "employed blacks"? These dudes right here.
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Look, here's what's needs to happened followed up by what WOULD happen followed up by what will happen.

What needs to happen:
Minimum wage needs to go up so people can afford shyt, then there needs to be a new tax rate on CEO pay and such to discourage CEO's from turning into practical slave owners.

What would happen:
Minimum wage needs to go up so people can afford shyt, then there needs to be a new tax rate on CEO pay and such to discourage CEO's from turning into practical slave owners.

So yes I see where you're coming from in that you believe it'll hurt people, I don't think it will, personally i think we'll see a zero sum effect by virtue of prices going up along with pay.
 

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I keep hearing "raising min wage wont hurt, it will help", why not raise it to $50-$100/hr and be done? either your logic is sound and raising the min wage doesnt hurt or you're wrong and it does...:yeshrug:

 

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I keep hearing "raising min wage wont hurt, it will help", why not raise it to $50-$100/hr and be done? either your logic is sound and raising the min wage doesnt hurt or you're wrong and it does...:yeshrug:
2 things....no 3 things acutally

1. No on is asking to raise the minimum wage that high are they, so stop with the paper arguments.
2. Following your logic and all workers should be slaves and happy that they are at least employed and learning a skill.
3. Be honest, if they raise the minimum to $15 we both know prices will go up in certain areas, most notably in areas where poor people shop, but in theory things like rent shouldn't go up...yet they will. Which more highlights greed predatory pricing.
 

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2 things....no 3 things acutally

1. No on is asking to raise the minimum wage that high are they, so stop with the paper arguments.
2. Following your logic and all workers should be slaves and happy that they are at least employed and learning a skill.
3. Be honest, if they raise the minimum to $15 we both know prices will go up in certain areas, most notably in areas where poor people shop, but in theory things like rent shouldn't go up...yet they will. Which more highlights greed predatory pricing.

Fair enough, but some people seem to be under the impression raising wages, has no negative effects, and its important that they understand it does...

#2 :shaq2: if your logic was sound everyone would be making min wage now... obviously there are incentives to pay people more than min wage, whatever it might be. The jump to everyone will be paid nothing if there is no min wage isnt rooted in reality.
 

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Fair enough, but some people seem to be under the impression raising wages, has no negative effects, and its important that they understand it does...

#2 :shaq2: if your logic was sound everyone would be making min wage now... obviously there are incentives to pay people more than min wage, whatever it might be. The jump to everyone will be paid nothing if there is no min wage isnt rooted in reality.
IT GOES UP REGARDLESS
 

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Breh, if you think the fact that $20 is something should hold on to and "invest" or stash away then there is clearly an issue here. I specifically used that number to lure someone in and you fell for the bait. Now if we were talking maybe $100 a check then we can start debating...but at $20 you can't even buy a decent shirt anymore. What kind of return are you going to see on $20 anyway? Some of you cats are in a bizarro world in where believe that many people who are in these shytty situations CHOOSE to be. Why don't you live that lifestyle and only give yourself a $20 cushion on paydays...don't save the extra money either and give it away. Let's see how you feel if you do that for a year+

You cannot expect EVERYONE to be like...yeah I only have $20 extra on each check so I am going to cook ALL my meals (1,100 or so in a year of 365x3) and not miss ONE...NOT GET LAZY ONCE, NOT RELAX ONCE. WHO wants to live like that? Is that acceptable to you breh?

A $20 bill stacked 26 times out of the year equates to $520 a year...do you really think that most people are going to sacrifice a bit of happiness that comes from spending a little extra left over money they have? Get real, a year full of no breaks and can only net $520 in my scenario won't even cover rent for most of the population.

The economy NEEDS and THRIVES on disposable income and if we have reached the point in where possibly spending $20 every 2 weeks constitutes as some sort of irresponsibility then our standard of living has not increased at all.

Buy a Pizza at work for lunch one day and stay broke until Payday brehs...THIS is what it has come down to apparently.

bait? lol whatever...didnt fall for nothing, i'm just down for the discussion...so dont make it seem like you tricked me into anything...as for the rest of what you said:

- every $20 adds up...every penny adds up...the fact that you think there is a limit you should be at before you think about trying to save shows you have issues...i didnt say that $20 was gonna make you a millionaire, but not spending all that $20, having a lil till the next time you get paid is a lot better than having nothing...hell, the way you talk: it doesnt matter how much disposible income someone has, they gonna blow it...the more they have to blow, the merrier...so it doesnt really matter what they get paid...

- i dont think the majority of people choose to be in shytty situations...i understand it's hard out here...shyt i dont work a min wage job, yet i'm still struggling like a muthfukka...and i work 10-12 hour days, more than 40 hours a week at times with no overtime, putting up with corporate bullshyt like not getting promotions cause you dont fit the part, etc....but the fact that i do understand i'm struggling, i do what i gotta do so eventually i wont be anymore...as for that $20 buck lifestyle, i've done that...i've made $20 bucks last 2 weeks cause i had to...i'm not just talking shyt, i've experienced that shyt...

- i never said dont eat out, but in your example you had them eat out 6 times that weekend, that is pointless to me...here and there, cool, but a fridge full of food and doing it everyday just cause you have the money is dumb..

- man, who talked about retiring on that $20 bucks?...i said just dont spend it all...as for stashing, i've done that shyt too...stashed a lil here and there cause i didnt really feel like spending my last dollar...being able to go grab a lil spending money cause you stashed some before is a lot better than not having none at all...

....like i said originally: i believe if you work hard, play hard...just dont be a dumbass and spend all your money...that's all i've said...
 
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breh if you only have an extra 20 bucks a week to play with you keep that shyt on hand, youre not thinkin about stocks and bonds :childplease: jesus
I didn't say all that but you should be thinking about saving. After savings comes investing. You gotta change your mindset. Your own savings is going to help you before the government.

I'm speaking form personal fukking opinion. You're talking to someone who made a $23.26 principal payment on her car note. The bytch is down to $1900 and will be paid off next month. In my mind, I'd rather be putting that same small amount into savings than having it go out the fukking door. 10 million pennies is $10,000. I pick up pennies off the ground and jar them. I still wrap coins. There is NO amount that I would consider small enough to save.

Maybe I'm just crazy.
 

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1. Increasing the min wage benefits the society in a lot of ways. It would be a true multiplier affect

2. Why do the people that make enough to live above poverty in society have to have their wages raised because Min wage people are getting more money

The problem here is that you can not live off of min wage

1. yea, it benefits society cause it gives people more money to spend...but it also has negatives that yall seem to be ignoring

2. i dont work a min wage job and yet i'm still classified as poverty...as for your question: do you really think people that make slightly above min wage right now are going to cool with min wage getting increased and their wages not?...it's gonna have a trickle up effect in pay...not only that, companies would have to do something to make their jobs attractive to potential employees...which means increased salaries, benefits, etc...cause if people can work and live off min wage jobs, over qualified people will start applying for those jobs to not put up with a lot of bullshyt that comes with higher paying jobs... also, that means those companies are going to start increasing the costs of products, goods, and services...
 
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