Don Mattrick
Why the fukk is the PS4 outselling the Xbox?
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Don Mattrick
Why must you keep asking the same question?? When people name what they play on PS4, y'all start to cherry pick what you deem as good or not good. Your second point is begging the question. You just assume that the Xbone is the better value simply because you feel like its the better value.
Oh I'm quite sure the answer has been given millions of times but as usual Xbots dismiss it and say whatever. PS4 does not cost more than the Xbox One though especially since the $350 price point is temporary(Nov 2nd-Jan 2). You think those PS4s that outsold the Xbox One at a higher price point last month is because people were unaware of these so called great exclusives that you keep mentioning?? "There is nothing to prefer on ps4 right now beside's a brand."Aint no body has answer this question since after infamous and knack dropped months ago.
So you telling me, that you would buy a console that cost more, and has a more unstable network, just to talk games that might be exclusive years from now?My whole point there is nothing to prefer on ps4 right now beside's a brand. That's it... People can't name games because there aren't any, its really that simple.
I don't have to ask people that only like the wii u why they like the wii u. Its apparent, and if I do ask them I get a back list of games and features that I can only find on that system.... The same should be able to be said for every system.
So I can't prefer to play The Last of Us, Infamous, Driveclub, LBP3 etc over Halo and Forza??
I can't prefer to have a console that let me stream my games to a handheld anywhere around the world?? I can't prefer having a console that lets me play games with friends even if they don't own the game? You're making the mistake of thinking that what you like and prefer means everyone else prefers it too. The people are speaking and right now more people prefer the PS4. You guys have been talking this "Xbox 1 will close the gap" stuff since Titanfall and we're in the end of October now and things are pretty much the same.
The people have spoken. You can't truly think the majority of PS4 users and exclusive buyers are people who post on thecoli or neogaf?? In the real world, everyone is buying PS4's and to a lesser extent XB1's to play what they want to play. A GTA V PS4 bundle would most likely outsell a sunset overdrive or Titanfall bundle.
I can't prefer having a console that has great downloadable games?? I can't prefer having a console with more games to come down the line?? When people bought an Xbox last year, didn't they wait for more games to come?? Is PS5 and Xbox Two coming out next year?? Why constantly act like time will come to a stand still at the end of the year and the library will stagnant?
Are you going to still ask what games are PS4 owners playing when Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, The Order, Rime, The tomorrrow children, Until Dawn, Wild etc comes out?? If someone isn't interested in those games, they'd still say they prefer the XB1 so what's the point in naming a list of games??
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I didn't know the PS3 allowed you to play games from other PS4 gamers instantly over the internet.
The PS3 had PS Vita remote play that works good?
The PS3 played games with the visual fidelity that the PS4 has?
You could record videos in the background and upload to facebook/youtube on PS3?
Can you broadcast games to twitch/ustream on the PS3?
The PS3 has instantaneous app switching/multitasking?
The PS3 had play as you download?
Extremely fast installs(something that the Xbox One is known for being slow at?)
Literally right now, the only thing the PS3 does better than the PS4 currently is play native music and video files off of the HD. Even then, I'm sure most of us "techies" have multiple devices within arms reach that does the same if not more than whatever PS4/XB1 does. I have a PC hooked up to the same TV and audio system as the PS4. I use the PS4 to play games period. I use the PC for media purposes(XBMC).
If I want to watch cable... I'd simply turn the TV to cable. Are people really making it out that watching cable through the interface of a console that's hooked up to the same TV as their cable box as something ground breaking??
Even if someone didn't own an XB1, they'd still be able to watch TV. XB1 doesn't "give" you free cable. You still need the box and shyt hooked up to it so if the fact that the XB1 will be on longer simply because your using it to watch TV, can you really say you're "playing" the XB1?? The XB1 is just a middle man.
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That's opinion.
Most wanted a gaming machine with the additional shyt on the site, not something that was trying to be a jack of all trades and master at none. MS goal was always to try to be this center of the living room shyt and the Xbox One's original direction showed that. The problem is people are connected on their phones, tablets, laptops, etc and that shyt is not what's popping anymore. Smart TVs do a lot of what you describe now without the need of a console. And quality? The quality of a playstation from a hardware perspective has always been greater than Xbox. We really trying to say that Playstation is Vanilla Ice? Are we being serious breh? The same company that arguably has had the most diverse gaming lineup since Playstation 1? The Same one that made DVDS and Bluray discs standard? The same company that made backwards compatibility a standard feature up to now?
Cmon breh. To try and equate the Xbox systems as something premium compared to the Playstation systems is a complete joke.
you're telling me that people are connected to devices that literally do everything you can think of when it comes to media and gaming, but want to scale back to just games when it comes to a console? I'm not buying that. no feature is "shyt on the side" today, these devices quite deliberately do everything and thats why people buy them...
sensible counter points, for once around here
Aint no body has answer this question since after infamous and knack dropped months ago.
So you telling me, that you would buy a console that cost more, and has a more unstable network, just to talk games that might be exclusive years from now?
I don't have to ask people that only like the wii u why they like the wii u. Its apparent, and if I do ask them I get a back list of games and features that I can only find on that system.... The same should be able to be said for every system.
Since i bought my ps4:
Injustice
The Last of Us Remastered
Infamous
Outlast
Destiny
The Evil Within
Battlefield 4
And a shyt load of indie games that I'm not gonna list
How hard is it to understand that M$ shat on their 360 fan base at the launch, and a good chunk of them abandoned ship
Now put those users together with the users that went from PS3 to PS4 and you have your answer
The only thing on the xb1 that caught my interest that's exclusive was Killer Instinct, and how seasonal characters was handled put me off
For users like me that went from 360 to PS4, TLOU:R alone was worth the purchase
Why must you keep asking the same question?? When people name what they play on PS4, y'all start to cherry pick what you deem as good or not good. Your second point is begging the question. You just assume that the Xbone is the better value simply because you feel like its the better value.
Oh I'm quite sure the answer has been given millions of times but as usual Xbots dismiss it and say whatever. PS4 does not cost more than the Xbox One though especially since the $350 price point is temporary(Nov 2nd-Jan 2). You think those PS4s that outsold the Xbox One at a higher price point last month is because people were unaware of these so called great exclusives that you keep mentioning?? "There is nothing to prefer on ps4 right now beside's a brand."
So I can't prefer to play The Last of Us, Infamous, Driveclub, LBP3 etc over Halo and Forza??
I can't prefer to have a console that let me stream my games to a handheld anywhere around the world?? I can't prefer having a console that lets me play games with friends even if they don't own the game? I can't prefer having a console that has great downloadable games?? I can't prefer having a console with more games to come down the line?? When people bought an Xbox last year, didn't they wait for more games to come?? Is PS5 and Xbox Two coming out next year?? Why constantly act like time will come to a stand still at the end of the year and the library will stagnant?
I don't lurk this section like that, NO ONE has answer me this question. And as for the price I said the for this holiday season getting a ps4 over a xbox one doesn't make sense at all.
Drive club has been a mess, the Last of us while great is still a HD upgrade, LBP3 and Infamous are cool if thats what your into, but why are you comparing those to halo and froza? Halo isn't even out on the one? And all that extra stuff is what gamer's complained about before the release of the both system's "We just want our system to boot up and play games" now its neat all of a sudden? And most of those features just started to drop in the last couple months.
When I bought a one, at release date I had Ryse, Killer instinct season one, and Dead Rising. I wouldn't have got either system if it didn't have something for me to play right then. I don't by something and then wait for content to be released....
To be honest, I'm older now and I don't really care over all what anyone play's. I'm just usually confused at the back and forth of this era of gamers as compared to when it was Nintendo vs sega.
see you were doing ok until you added this extra stuff. yes that shyt is groundbreaking! does it sound groundbreaking or look groundbreaking on paper? no!
how can they properly communicate something that hasnt been done before? to get the features xb1 offers, you HAVE to have an xb1. how many devices can claim that
its even tougher going back and forth about it because the ones here arguing the hardest have never even used one
There's no denying that the X1 has had the better games and features thus far.
Its great if you enjoy your PS4, but you can't downplay what other systems have on offer in order to justify your enjoyment.
If your the type to only buy one console, then I could understand you buying a ps4 for future content or because you didn't like what happened forwards the end of 360 life, or because you didn't get to play Sony exclusives last gen.
But if you are the type to own multiple hardware, there's is no way in hell you can justify a PS4 purchase over X1 this holiday season.
Its great if you enjoy your PS4, but you can't downplay what other systems have on offer in order to justify your enjoyment.
If your the type to only buy one console, then I could understand you buying a ps4 for future content or because you didn't like what happened forwards the end of 360 life, or because you didn't get to play Sony exclusives last gen.
But if you are the type to own multiple hardware, there's is no way in hell you can justify a PS4 purchase over X1 this holiday season.
You could say the same thing about the Destiny bundle. It sold for $449 on PS4 and it still outsold the $399 Xbox 1s. Some folks think buying consoles period doesn't make sense at all so this point is purely subjective. Right now I have no interest in an Xbox 1 until Halo 5 and Gears 4 come out. I had no interest in the Wii U until MK8 and Smash Bros come out and now I own one. Some people feel the same towards PS4 with Uncharted or Bloodborne.. It's all opinions dawg.
Driveclub's launch is a mess I agree and that's unfortunate but still though the gameplay is very solid to me and I like it for that. Plus things have gotten better lately so it'll only get better. The Last of US is an HD upgrade that 50% of PS4 owners haven't played yet since they jumped ship from the 360. I'm comparing them to Halo and Forza because.. you named them?
Halo comes out in a few weeks and is an HD upgrade so why isn't the same points levied against it?? It's going to be a great collection for fans alike no doubt but if someone isn't a fan of Halo, a collection won't change their mind.
Okay most of those features just dropped but how come you're talking about them as if they've been on the Xbox 1 since release??
Okay? I'm sure you completed Ryse in a week, Killer Instinct was a demo at that time and Dead rising..When I bought a one, at release date I had Ryse, Killer instinct season one, and Dead Rising. I wouldn't have got either system if it didn't have something for me to play right then. I don't by something and then wait for content to be released....
?? You see what I'm talking about?? Not everyone cares about those titles. I certainly wouldn't buy an XB1 for Ryse or Dead Rising. Killer Instinct just got a fully complete roster last month.. How can you say you don't buy something and wait for content to be released when that is EXACTLY what you did for Killer Instinct?? Didn't season 2 just drop?? Also didn't Forza and Sunset drop recently?? Did you not wait for those titles?? Didn't y'all wait for Titanfall?? I bought a PS4 and had a bunch of games. I bought Knack, Killzone, NFS Rivals, 2k14 and had Resogun free with PS+. I enjoyed those games for a while. Fast forward today and there's more to play on PS4.
Watching TV is groundbreaking?Watching TV and changing the channels with your voice is something that hasn't been done before?? Sure it's new for consoles but to me I don't care about that.. I don't even watch cable TV anymore... So that selling point is lost on me. It's like a salesman telling someone buying a printer for their law firm office about printers that can print pictures onto a disc. The lawyer just wants a laser printer that prints really fast and has no use for that. How can you convince that person they need a photo printer for printing images on discs?
You realize I have used an XB1 plenty of times before and that I have one in my house?? How you think I'm playing Sunset Overdrive??
Breh. I'm sorry but snap(windows 8 feature) and watching TV hardly breaks new grounds.
Shareplay on the other hand is a game changer. THAT isn't something that has been done on any console or even PC's yet and its actually game related. Remote play is a game changer as that is something I can use. Not knocking those who use the TV feature on Xbox one but y'all need to realize not everyone cares about that just like I realize not everyone cares about shareplay or remoteplay. The PS4 is getting some direct TV app in the future to let users watch live TV... That's cool and all but to me I don't care.
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The point is that because of those devices and people using them, there's no need to have a console that "does it all" as well.
Now if MS had made the Xbox compareable in power to the PS4, stop being a dudebro machine, didn't come out with that online DRM and no used games nonsense, and was 400 bucks it'd be different. But even if that happened, it STILL WAS NOT GOING TO OUTSELL THE PLAYSTATION 4.
You gotta remember that Sony also owns Columbia/Sony Pictures and has Sony music. They wanted to push more people to rent/buy movies from the PS Store and get music unlimited. Inputting DLNA and music support hampers that. While I do think it's bullshyt, I'm not tripping since I got a smart TV that does this without the need of the console. and I'm not alone in this.
Bottomline is most want their consoles to be a GAMING MACHINE FIRST AND FOREMOST. And people spoke with their wallets.
... but that's exactly what Xbots do every day on here
You could say the same thing about the Destiny bundle. It sold for $449 on PS4 and it still outsold the $399 Xbox 1s. Some folks think buying consoles period doesn't make sense at all so this point is purely subjective. Right now I have no interest in an Xbox 1 until Halo 5 and Gears 4 come out. I had no interest in the Wii U until MK8 and Smash Bros come out and now I own one. Some people feel the same towards PS4 with Uncharted or Bloodborne.. It's all opinions dawg.
Driveclub's launch is a mess I agree and that's unfortunate but still though the gameplay is very solid to me and I like it for that. Plus things have gotten better lately so it'll only get better. The Last of US is an HD upgrade that 50% of PS4 owners haven't played yet since they jumped ship from the 360. I'm comparing them to Halo and Forza because.. you named them?
Halo comes out in a few weeks and is an HD upgrade so why isn't the same points levied against it?? It's going to be a great collection for fans alike no doubt but if someone isn't a fan of Halo, a collection won't change their mind.
Okay most of those features just dropped but how come you're talking about them as if they've been on the Xbox 1 since release??
Okay? I'm sure you completed Ryse in a week, Killer Instinct was a demo at that time and Dead rising..
I bought a PS4 and had a bunch of games. I bought Knack, Killzone, NFS Rivals, 2k14 and had Resogun free with PS+. I enjoyed those games for a while. Fast forward today and there's more to play on PS4.
Halo compared to The last of us is a huge stretch man, the last of us came out with amazing graphic's and recently. You can plug up a ps3 and play in its glory, Halo 1-3 dropped years ago and some are getting upgrades to 1080p at 60 frames that affect's everything down to gameplay. I can't even hook up my reg xbox to my new tv's.
I played Froza at launch, but its a racer so it just doesn't do much for me. Ryse was great, it just needed to be longer, it wasn't something I was hyped about and I beat it in about a week, not much shorter than infamous and about as repetitive.
Killer instinct is far from a demo, it was and is a full blow FIGHTING game. It wasn't dressed up like MK9 or anything but it was your typical fighting game. You just had options on how to play and buy it, and season two is much like how the do streetfighter "releases" new characters and updates. Its far from being a demo.
Like i said I wouldn't have bought either system if it didn't have something for me to play when I got home with it. Period, and a multiplat game that was on both last gen and this gen wasn't gonna be enough. Neither was potential maybe future titles.