Why no love for the Great Roy Jones Jr.

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Man Roy used to entertain you and thats what i loved. If im gonna drop by 50 bucks i want to have something to talk about the next day.

I cant imagine what it must feel like to be that guy at 8:17 where a nikka just whippin your ass then he acting a donkey in the ring.
 

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Alot of posts during those fights when he got older were rattled with hate and trying to say he was overrated. Especially that Calazaghe thread or however you spell that idiot's name.

And of course he wasn't a boxer like Mayweather...he was a freak athlete with speed on some Bruce Lee shyt. He could hit you with unheard of combos at different angles and let you crowd him in the corner and hit you with ridiculously fast counter punches. Just fukking crazy shyt. Unheard of then and damn sure won't ever be seen in this lifetime.

The so called hate is more of brehs wantin Roy to quit and stop givin random brehs wins over him.
 

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The so called hate is more of brehs wantin Roy to quit and stop givin random brehs wins over him.

It was more visceral than that..they hated on his legacy and use the word overrated alot. Roy couldnt be touched at 30...dude was so bored that he was considering a Tyson fight if he beat Lewis..a 100 million deal. Felix was supposed to have fought had he got through Hopkins but we all know how that comedy ended.
 

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if roy jones woudlve retired after he won heavyweight title hed be held in higher regard... but with that said roy jones is an atg...

and ppl that say he wasnt a boxer...wtf... he outboxed two of the greatest boxers in their prime.. james toney and bernard hopkins....

its not his fault he was ko ing the rest...

so yeah he is a good a BOXER as anybody out there... with that said he could do matrix type stuff to ko ppl... thats not his fault...
 

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if roy jones woudlve retired after he won heavyweight title hed be held in higher regard... but with that said roy jones is an atg...

and ppl that say he wasnt a boxer...wtf... he outboxed two of the greatest boxers in their prime.. james toney and bernard hopkins....

its not his fault he was ko ing the rest...

so yeah he is a good a BOXER as anybody out there... with that said he could do matrix type stuff to ko ppl... thats not his fault...

ppl are talking about in the sense because he was so gifted physically and the fact when the gifts disappeared he got exposed for having no plan b..roy was a great fighter but not a great boxer...he's a poster child for what happens to a fighter when you slack on your fundamentals

if you want to look at roy being outboxed in his prime look at the first fight with montell griffin..before he got DQ'ed griffin (with the help of eddie futch) exposed alot of roy's technical flaws and made that a close fight..griffin was actually winning on one of the cards with the other 2 cards was down by only 2 because of a prior KD
 

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if roy jones woudlve retired after he won heavyweight title hed be held in higher regard... but with that said roy jones is an atg...

and ppl that say he wasnt a boxer...wtf... he outboxed two of the greatest boxers in their prime.. james toney and bernard hopkins....

its not his fault he was ko ing the rest...

so yeah he is a good a BOXER as anybody out there... with that said he could do matrix type stuff to ko ppl... thats not his fault...

some people were calling him GOAT after that fight
 

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ppl are talking about in the sense because he was so gifted physically and the fact when the gifts disappeared he got exposed for having no plan b..roy was a great fighter but not a great boxer...he's a poster child for what happens to a fighter when you slack on your fundamentals

if you want to look at roy being outboxed in his prime look at the first fight with montell griffin..before he got DQ'ed griffin (with the help of eddie futch) exposed alot of roy's technical flaws and made that a close fight..griffin was actually winning on one of the cards with the other 2 cards was down by only 2 because of a prior KD


:stopitslime: even though you're are telling some truths, you could of used a better fight than that. Roy Jr. would've knocked that dude out in that 1st fight if dude wouldn't took a dive



 
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ppl are talking about in the sense because he was so gifted physically and the fact when the gifts disappeared he got exposed for having no plan b..roy was a great fighter but not a great boxer...he's a poster child for what happens to a fighter when you slack on your fundamentals

if you want to look at roy being outboxed in his prime look at the first fight with montell griffin..before he got DQ'ed griffin (with the help of eddie futch) exposed alot of roy's technical flaws and made that a close fight..griffin was actually winning on one of the cards with the other 2 cards was down by only 2 because of a prior KD
If Roy didn't have elite boxing skills he woulda ended up like Prince Naseem or Zab Judah.
 

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ppl are talking about in the sense because he was so gifted physically and the fact when the gifts disappeared he got exposed for having no plan b..roy was a great fighter but not a great boxer...he's a poster child for what happens to a fighter when you slack on your fundamentals

if you want to look at roy being outboxed in his prime look at the first fight with montell griffin..before he got DQ'ed griffin (with the help of eddie futch) exposed alot of roy's technical flaws and made that a close fight..griffin was actually winning on one of the cards with the other 2 cards was down by only 2 because of a prior KD


FROM past BOXINGTALK.COM MAILBAG... HE SAYS IT PERFECTLY...

I saw Roy Jones this weekend sitting ringside for my fighters fight. I didn’t get a chance to talk to him to pick his brain on what he thought. I wish I could have. Roy is one of the few people in boxing who’s eye I respect .
I don’t mind defending Roy because I have integrity. When people see something in someone else that they don’t see in themselves they usually get envious and hate. It happens to me all the time and I’m nowhere near as successful as the great Roy Jones.


Some of the things that are said about him are just repeated ignorant rhetoric. My man John Scully text me a few days ago and also gave me props on taking up Jones’s legacy.
The worst part about this witch hunt to detract from Roy’s legacy is that he wasn’t good technically. Yet when he faced the 4 best technical fighters of his career, Bernard Hopkins, James Toney, Mike McCallum and Reggie Johnson, they won like 10 rounds combined against him. If he was so poor technically how come their great technical skills didn’t trump his athleticism and weak chin?


Not one person can answer that for me. PSA. Roy Jones was excellent technically. He was just unconventional in his approach. For example Naseem Hamed was poor technically. Roy wasn’t like that. Roy’s balance was perfect. His ring generalship was amazing.


His left hook was like a jab for everybody else. He controlled your aggression with a check hook. Then he became the aggressor with a leaping hook. He found it more effective than a jab so that’s what he used. His body punching was incredible. Ask Virgil Hill and Bryant Brannon. And his footwork was sick. Ask the technical marvel James Toney.


Jones ended up behind Toney all night. He went behind his left lead shoulder and nullified the shoulder roll. Jones also never loaded up on a right hand against Toney because he knew Toney would roll and counter. So he threw the right hand away, stepped behind Toney and hooked him to death. Watch the fight and you will see a boxing exhibition. Jones was as smart as they come. Jones dominated Toney so thoroughly Toney was humbled after the fight and admitted a Jones victory. Jones beat Toney into a 9 year slump that he didn’t fully recover from until 2003, they fought in 1994.


Stand up RJ. The Breadman knows better. I still say that Ray Leonard, Pernell Whitaker and Roy Jones are the best fighters of my lifetime and last 30 years
 

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If Roy didn't have elite boxing skills he woulda ended up like Prince Naseem or Zab Judah.


pretty much... lol at him schooling toney and hopkins and him being not a great boxer...

im sure with that logic ray robinson prob couldnt really box and relied on his athletic prowess...

its i guess foreign to see an fighter with great technical skills WANT TO GO FOR THE KO OR KO PPL LIKE CRAZY... he is still boxing

and proof is in the pudding.. he took to school two SUPPOSED SUPERIOR BOXING TECHNITIONS in their PRIME IN TONEY AND HOPKINS...

im sure if roy jones wouldnt have had so many ko's hed prob WITH DUMB LOGIC BE CONSIDERED A GREATER BOXER OR OR MORE OF A TECHNICAL FIGHTER CAUSE HED BE WINNING OR SHUTTING OUT HIS OPPONENTS.. BUT THANK GOD THAT GUY BLESSED US WITH AMAZING BEATDOWNS AND KOS...



yall musta forgot...
 

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I need to rewatch the second RJJ/Montell Griffin fight. Roy came out from the start looking to take Griffin's head off. One of my favorite RJJ performances along with the Toney fight and him shytting on Bernard Hopkins in that HBO interview

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