Why is Cm Punk considered good on the mic?

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Just like Punk.

:comeon: Like I said, without the obvious unfair advantage that Punk has. The Rock actually had to cut amazing promos that required charisma and doing shyt that nobody other than The Rock could think of and not just go out there to do a shoot interview talking about whatever the fukk, and leave.:comeon:
 

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He rarely does "shoots" anymore and he still cuts the best promos in the company.
Dudes been top of the game for like 10 years on the mic.

Doesn't matter if he's an arrogant straight-edge jerk, a cult leader, or an in your face rebel dude pulls off promos convincingly more than most in the biz.

There's no way you can deny dude on the stick, like that's the biggest reason he got to the top.

I don't really watch wrestling so I'll admit that I don't know what he's been doing - only the shyt I found on youtube. As far as the straight edge shyt, I don't care - that's his personal choice. To me he actually seems like a cool dude from what I've seen. His MMA interviews with Ariel Helwani were interesting to me. I just don't think he's all that talented on the mic - that's all. :yeshrug:
 

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I didn't say it was his choice. But he turned the negative heat and went in the zone for like 6 months where he literally became the guy people had trouble booing even though he was a heel.:jawalrus: I'm sure if you look at the ratings from that run they would be a lot higher than they were prior to his return or after he left. That's something that can't be disputed. :manny: I already admitted that The Rock's whole gimmick is outdated at this point but you can never take away what he's done in the past.:manny: At one point he was untouchable and those strudel jokes were new and original. Everything he did was original back then. Punk could never do that - he just simply doesn't have it. He's not even close to the same level. Again, the only reason he's over or considered "the best" on the mic is because he has the permission to talk about whatever the fukk he wants when everyone else has to stay in character. :manny:

Nobody will discount the Rock's accomplishments, he is one of the greatest to di it. I will tell you that around the later halfway point through the leather vest and pants Heel run fans even found his heel antics to be cornball and annoying. An over heel is still respected even if you don't like him. Rock towards the end of that run became a legit pest to many fans.



Punk hasn't really had to shoot or test the limits and his promo game is just as crisp as ever.
 
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:comeon: Like I said, without the obvious unfair advantage that Punk has. The Rock actually had to cut amazing promos that required charisma and doing shyt that nobody other than The Rock could think of and not just go out there to do a shoot interview talking about whatever the fukk, and leave.:comeon:

He did one 'shoot' which wasn't actually shoot. His promos may have comments which would be considered shoot comments but that's not the reason they stand out, it's because he's so good that everything he says sounds real and unscripted. You can suspend your disbelief with Punk more than anyone in the company. You're right in that he couldn't do what Rock did but the opposite is true as well.
 

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Think he's a good mic talent or a lot of the reasons people already listed.

Also think he's overrated for the reasons B&S stated.
 

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He's a quick thinker and can come up with excellent retorts, but I find his actual promos to be very boring and a chore to sit through.
 

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He's got the same no fukks given attitude that Stone Cold had. If u don't like him, you don't like him. If u appreciate the fact he is willing to say the shyt that no one can get away with than u appreciate it. He's been my fave since ROH, so I'm biased.
 

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imagine if dwayne would do shoot promos? he already had punk and his stans crying from one little tweet

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but dwayne is a nice guy and doesn't need to shoot for attention like punk
 

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Nobody will discount the Rock's accomplishments, he is one of the greatest to di it. I will tell you that around the later halfway point through the leather vest and pants Heel run fans even found his heel antics to be cornball and annoying. An over heel is still respected even if you don't like him. Rock towards the end of that run became a legit pest to many fans.


Punk hasn't really had to shoot or test the limits and his promo game is just as crisp as ever.

Sorry breh, but this right here gets the :usure: face. Rock was untouchable during that run, everything he did was gold - everything. From his stuff with The Hurricane to his shyt with Austin and all of the guitar playing/concert shyt. All of that was gold back then. Looking back it might seem corny because it's been played out now but back then it was fresh and he overshadowed that whole roster. When you consider he's been out of the game for a few years at that point - it's huge. After that last match with Goldberg who he basically put over he got on the mic to tell the fans he was leaving again and that whole arena was disappointed as hell. I was 13 at the time and I actually watched wrestling regularly - nobody was tired of that run or Rock's antics at all.:yeshrug:
 

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Tbh, I'm not really into wrestling like that anymore and I don't watch Raw/Smackdown or anything like that. I've just been reading through TSC lately and it's gotten me interested again. I wanted to see what the hype was about CM Punk so I checked out a few youtube videos and I just wasn't impressed. Yea he has balls but he basically just got lucky. He wouldn't be shyt without being able to talk about topics forbidden to everyone else, imo. Just another mid-carder. I've seen the Nash thing which was cool but again, he's over there talking about The Kliq, knee surgeries, and all sorts of other shyt that no one else can talk about. He has an unfair advantage. As far as Sheamus and all the other stuff, idk because I haven't seen any of that. :yeshrug:
Did you watch anything in the last several months?

It might not make a difference since you don't seem to understand professional wrestling but for what its worth, Rock and Punk feuded in January. They had multiple confrontations on the mic and consensus was that Punk was better and outclassed Rock in every one, no shooting necessary. Maybe check those out.
 

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He's got the same no fukks given attitude that Stone Cold had. If u don't like him, you don't like him. If u appreciate the fact he is willing to say the shyt that no one can get away with than u appreciate it. He's been my fave since ROH, so I'm biased.

:mindblown: Stone Cold put over a whole character with catch phrases, merchandise sales, and everything else that came with it. Again, Punk does not have the charisma to be anything like Stone Cold outside of the parallels you drew between his actual personality and the character of Steve Austin. Just the fact that you're justifying Punk by comparing him to Stone Cold means he ain't on the same level. Stone Cold was original and couldn't be compared to anybody, same with The Rock. Punk is not that, breh. :what:
 

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Did you watch anything in the last several months?

It might not make a difference since you don't seem to understand professional wrestling but for what its worth, Rock and Punk feuded in January. They had multiple confrontations on the mic and consensus was that Punk was better and outclassed Rock in every one, no shooting necessary. Maybe check those out.

I will but I already admitted that The Rock's gimmick is played out. He's playing the face version of his character from 2003. That's 10 years, breh. Same jokes, same promos. Ten years and no new material later and it's still not unanimous that Punk got him? That's saying something.:leon:
 

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imagine if dwayne would do shoot promos? he already had punk and his stans crying from one little tweet

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but dwayne is a nice guy and doesn't need to shoot for attention like punk

Honestly, that wouldn't even be fair. He can just shut down anything Punk says with: "I did 10 times as much as you ever will with 100 times the competion and half as many opportunities that you were given." That would be the undeniable truth - no rebuttal. Numbers don't lie.:yeshrug:
 

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Slightly off-topic, but CM Punk is like Nas to me.

Yeah, he's talented and you want to like him, but his stans are so fukking insufferable that they don't make it easy for you. :snoop:
 

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I've watched a couple of his promos including the "infamous" one where he's sitting by the Titan Tron. Is his whole thing basically being out of character?

This is what I was saying in the other thread. It's much harder to deliver a memorable promo while staying in character.

I think John Cena would outright bury guys on the mic if he was given total free reign. Same with Rock.
 
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