Why doesn't Marcus Garvey get more credit as a black leader?

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Because Back to Africa failed and people will always take away credibility for Ls. There are many black activist that were more meaningful to the movement than Malcolm and MLK. Those were just the main reps.
 

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Sure he gets props here and there but considering how WAY ahead of his time he was in his thinking and vision...why isn't he up there with the Martins and Malcoms?

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Honorable Marcus Mosiah Garvey always gets his honor from folks i know...
 

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garvey was more than a bit inconsistent when it came to black political involvement in my opinion...him seeming to support fascism and equating the u.n.i.a. to the kkk is probably the answer to the question doe...
 

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Because white people are actually the ones that are really pushing the legacies of these leaders out there to the general public. EVERYONE learns about Martin Luther King Jr. as a kid through public schooling plus holiday, movies, et cetera; a lot of people will learn about Malcolm X early as well through the same methods, Rosa Parks, etc.

Unless you're doing independent research, you're not really going to know much about Marcus Garvey.

And it also has to do with the eras they came up in. Malcolm and Martin were in the Civil Rights Era. A lot of Black leaders who came before them haaev been "phased out" of the memory of the general public.

This is a good response. I think the feds definitely squashed any public acknowledgement of him for decades, and since his career ended in disgrace it was probably easy for blacks to forget about him before the civil rights era.
 

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Becuh he wuh big-lippid bla trash. Tryna teash blah folts to get all edumacated and aks fuh dey so-called libaration. :pacspit:

I don't undastan how dis negro wuzint happy like all da ress uv dem on dat banana plantation in Cosa Rica and start talkin all dat uppity negro crap about libaration and goin back to Affica. I guess he ain't know his place. I do haff to give him credit fuh da kind words he said about da Ku Kluss Klan doe. Dat wuz prolly da only good thing he did in his wide nose-havin life.
 

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Garvey was too gangsta for white folks to cosign. Same reason why u see white folks on MLK dikk over Malcolm during black history month.

Unless you're a docile, Pacifist, non threatening negro you will not get respect. Early hip-hop showed him love tho, as well as Noble Drew Ali.
 

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Becuh he wuh big-lippid bla trash. Tryna teash blah folts to get all edumacated and aks fuh dey so-called libaration. :pacspit:

I don't undastan how dis negro wuzint happy like all da ress uv dem on dat banana plantation in Cosa Rica and start talkin all dat uppity negro crap about libaration and goin back to Affica. I guess he ain't know his place. I do haff to give him credit fuh da kind words he said about da Ku Kluss Klan doe. Dat wuz prolly da only good thing he did in his wide nose-havin life.


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One of the reasons is because a large portion of the Black middle class at the time hated him, so he didn't have the institutional support from the "Black Elite". He was not able to use the media and other outlets to work around this problem like other Black groups/leaders would later on. I think if media had played a larger part in society at the time he would be given more credit today. One of the main factors in Malcolm X being popular especially among young people is that his recorded speeches are easily accessible in a wide variety of formats.
 

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garvey was more than a bit inconsistent when it came to black political involvement in my opinion...him seeming to support fascism and equating the u.n.i.a. to the kkk is probably the answer to the question doe...

yeah, this is my feeling too.
 

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Honestly neither him or Malcolm X did anything. Neither made anything change
 

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The reason is cuz most people don't seek out knowledge other than what they've been taught. I can tell you that as a high schooler, there was very little about him in my history book. I would LOVE for the chance to go back and read it now because I bet it was negative, or at the very least, did not mention all of his brilliant ideas. All I really remember was that he was all about going back to Africa, and that there was a picture of him in a sailor's type outfit.

It took me watching a documentary on him to learn about his brilliant ideas like black people buying bonds to create the Black Star Line. Black people bonding together to have real OWNERSHIP in something. I mean, this is not just brilliant for poor black folks. If poor folks of any color banded together to do this, we wouldn't have no so-called 1% in this country. I have mad respect for this brother, and I'm white by the way, but he was just an intelligent man. I get his point too that black people had to have their own sovereign land. But, I don't agree they had to go back to Africa to do it. If blacks could just put their money economic power together (like the Jews) they wouldn't have to do no back to Africa movement. But, alas, the saddest part of that documentary I watched was about how J. Edgar Hoover came in and got his cointelpro nut on way before the Black Panthers on Marcus Garvey. He did the fucck shiit, and that's what brought Garvey's movement down. Shiit is sad yo.
 

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Garvey was too gangsta for white folks to cosign. Same reason why u see white folks on MLK dikk over Malcolm during black history month.

Unless you're a docile, Pacifist, non threatening negro you will not get respect. Early hip-hop showed him love tho, as well as Noble Drew Ali.

My friend, even though MLK didn't hurt anybody, he wasn't docile, pacifist, or non threatening at all.



Ponder that for a moment my brother :jawalrus:
 
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