Why does TLOU2 get a pass for releasing unfinished but not Halo

[Fctftl]

Cause people complained. That’s nitpicky as fukk.

The whole structure of the game is different only with halo is “mission select” considered a “feature”


They were always gonna add shyt. That’s the whole point.

fukk wrong with you goofys

Maybe because mission select has been a staple since the original game?

imagine i wanna play the Tartarus boss fight in Halo 2 but i gotta replay the entire campaign to do it. Thats silly.


Look, i know you dont have any friends or loved ones that wanna play co op with you, but some of us have people we play missions with.

as for “they were always gonna add shyt”, thats good and all but why not ship it with the game? Like all the other Halos? They charged us for a pizza but all we got was the bread. They pushed this game out missing shyt to make holiday launch instead of dropping a full project. And their post launch plans keep getting delayed. Heres the bad news from yesterday.

 

[Fctftl]

You fukking weirdos been complaining for 25 years.

“Halo fans complaining” ain’t a litmus test for anything


What I said is factually correct. Outside of Co-Op Halo infinite launched with about the same amount of content as other Halo games and more than it’s modern competitors.

What you said was factually wrong. It also launched without forge, mission select, composer, custom emblems.


And can somebody explain why a fukking color is limited to armor cores? Whatever happened to having a 3 color option for whatever armor you had? And why are helmets locked to armors? You used to he able to mix and match whatever you wanted.


Halo 3,4,5, and Reach had more options.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Maybe because mission select has been a staple since the original game?

Yes but the game was never structured the way Halo infinite is.

imagine i wanna play the Tartarus boss fight in Halo 2 but i gotta replay the entire campaign to do it. Thats silly.

Prior games were level based games, this is an open world game. Most open world games do not have level select.

It’s some nitpicky ass fan shyt they capitulated to cause they actually care about feedback. That should be a good thing

Look, i know you dont have any friends or loved ones that wanna play co op with you, but some of us have people we play missions with.

The lack of co-op is disappointing, but that’s been known for months before the game came out. It is what it is at this point

as for “they were always gonna add shyt”, thats good and all but why not ship it with the game? Like all the other Halos? They charged us for a pizza but all we got was the bread. They pushed this game out missing shyt to make holiday launch instead of dropping a full project. And their post launch plans keep getting delayed. Heres the bad news from yesterday.

Again it launched with about the same amount of stuff as other halos outside of co-op. All games add stuff nowdays. Before they even showed the game off they said they would be adding stuff for 10 years. It was always advertised as the start of a new platform and it’s only been out for 3 months FOR FREE. And you clowns still complaining

Just like your link you posted and presented as “bad news”

While ignoring. the fact that it says they are on time for the majority of Season 2 content, and they are working on loads of content and fixes that should happen in between seasons.

But nope none of that matters cause co-op is gonna take a couple extra weeks.

You nikkas just like to hear yourselves complain. Just wait for more shyt if you don’t wanna play right now. That’s OK.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

What you said was factually wrong. It also launched without forge, mission select, composer, custom emblems.

Over the years all of this stuff has never been all included at launch in one game.

You are taking 25 years worth of games, updates and iterations and saying one game should have all of that content day one. It was never gonna work like that. No game has that much content. It’s silly to expect that.

And can somebody explain why a fukking color is limited to armor cores? Whatever happened to having a 3 color option for whatever armor you had? And why are helmets locked to armors? You used to he able to mix and match whatever you wanted.


Halo 3,4,5, and Reach had more options.

That’s a design decision based on making money because the game is FTP

 

[Rice N Beans]

The game has only been out for 3 months

Development was six years (and counting if we're being honest) and campaign has already cleared. 3 months post launch on a LIVE SERIVE BETA should already have supplied content, but 343i only adjusts the store and willfully broke one of their modes for two+ months.

Gonna be six and a half years and what they have to show for it is possibly less content than the old Unreal Tournament demo from 1999 and more bugs.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Development was six years (and counting if we're being honest) and campaign has already cleared. 3 months post launch on a LIVE SERIVE BETA should already have supplied content, but 343i only adjusts the store and broke one of their modes for two+ months.

Gonna be six and a half years and what they have to show for it is possibly less content than the old Unreal Tournament demo from 1999 and more bugs.

Don’t matter how long development was.

The game will be supported for the next decade. 3 months ain’t shyt. And again they’ve added permanent modes to the playlist during this time.

 

[Rice N Beans]

Don’t matter how long development was.

As usual, Meach ignores context when it doesn't fit the narrative. Every. fukking. Thread.

The game will be supported for the next decade. 3 months ain’t shyt. And again they’ve added permanent modes to the playlist during this time.

If this is the culmination of six years, and they can't do anything substantial in six more months, then they're not making a good case for the next ten years.

EDIT: Actually, this will be a good historical lesson where MS lets 343i fukk over Halo and it takes sixteen years to make a complete game.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

As usual, Meach ignores context when it doesn't fit the narrative. Every. fukking. Thread.

Because it’s just you reaching for some irrelevant criticism. Don’t matter how long a game is in development, and you don’t even fully know how long the game has been in full development or the process it took to start a new engine and platform. Half of that time during a pandemic.

You are just reaching for something to criticize.

If this is the culmination of six years, and they can't do anything substantial in six more months, then they're not making a good case for the next ten years.

Seems they are on track for lots of content for season 2.

At launch they said season 1 would be long cause they were gonna go home and take a break.

Again, nothing wrong with that, unless you just want to hear yourself bash a game on the internet.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

“Naughty Dogg been working on TLOU2 for 9 years and it’s still not complete” @Rice N Beans

damn clown

 

[Rice N Beans]

“Naughty Dogg been working on TLOU2 for 9 years and it’s still not complete” @Rice N Beans

damn clown

TLOU2 MP is an addendum, not an open beta core component that is underdeveloped alongside it's single player campaign. As you willfully ignore context, it isn't surprising you miss this to do more cherrypicked stannery.

Six years for a beta, probably gonna use that whole ten to round it out, and your launch windows have nothing extra. Another 343 strangulation of Halo hype.

Because it’s just you reaching for some irrelevant criticism. Don’t matter how long a game is in development, and you don’t even fully know how long the game has been in full development or the process it took to start a new engine and platform. Half of that time during a pandemic.

You are just reaching for something to criticize.

There is no reach. All of this is noted. Speaking of Reach, that too launched with more content.

Relegate supportive statements as irrelevant criticism? You can't even have a conversation without stanning ruining your comprehension.

At launch they said season 1 would be long cause they were gonna go home and take a break.

Ah yeah, extended break mode since going Gold on Nov. 19th. Only at 343 do you get 100+ days of vacation.

Again, nothing wrong with that, unless you just want to hear yourself bash a game on the internet.

You complain about it, but you keep inserting yourself into these conversations.

Larry Defense Attorney Meach. Flabby Consoles. Flabby Games. Flabby Posts.™

 

[KevCo]

because Halo is mostly known for its multiplayer, while TLOU is known for its story.
/thread

 

[MeachTheMonster]

TLOU2 MP is an addendum, not an open beta core component that is underdeveloped alongside it's single player campaign. As you willfully ignore context, it isn't surprising you miss this to do more cherrypicked stannery.

It’s not me ignoring context and cherry picking.

Every single naughty dog game over the last 15 years has launched with a multiplayer mode.

TLOU2 did not. That was two years ago, and the multiplayer is still not out. And there’s still been no upgrades to the original $60 game.

Yet halo is free and only 3 months in and you got all the smoke

No reason to NOT apply your standards to Naughty Dogg other than your own stan reasons

Six years for a beta, probably gonna use that whole ten to round it out, and your launch windows have nothing extra. Another 343 strangulation of Halo hype.

9 years for a multiplayer mode that’s still not out

There is no reach. All of this is noted. Speaking of Reach, that too launched with more content.

Relegate supportive statements as irrelevant criticism? You can't even have a conversation without stanning ruining your comprehension.

still reaching

Ah yeah, extended break mode since going Gold on Nov. 19th. Only at 343 do you get 100+ days of vacation.



You complain about it, but you keep inserting yourself into these conversations.

Larry Defense Attorney Meach. Flabby Consoles. Flabby Games. Flabby Posts.™

Sony stans

 

[Dorian Breh]

My nikka @Rice N Beans laying the smackdown on Meach

 

[MeachTheMonster]

My nikka @Rice N Beans laying the smackdown on Meach

Yo nikka @Rice N Beans ran away again as logic and reality has broken his nasty stannary ………again

 

[Rice N Beans]

Yo nikka @Rice N Beans ran away again as logic and reality has broken his nasty stannary ………again

At some point I let stupid be stupid and it doesn't require me responding to your quotes. A good marker is when the crux of your stance has naturally devolved into things like:

still reaching

Sony stans

When you have no counter points.

Also, recycling the same things:

It’s not me ignoring context and cherry picking.

Every single naughty dog game over the last 15 years has launched with a multiplayer mode.

TLOU2 did not. That was two years ago, and the multiplayer is still not out. And there’s still been no upgrades to the original $60 game.

Yet halo is free and only 3 months in and you got all the smoke

TLOU2 is an SP game receiving an additional MP mode. All store pages and physical boxes are correctly listed as 1P, and it was announced without it. There was no expectation for MP from the jump.

Halo Inf was announced with MP. Historically, it features at the minimum equal focus with the SP side and in some cases surpasses that focus. However, with Infinite, the MP is lacking exceptionally in content on its own & in comparison to previous releases, released with the BETA tag and flipped to "release" state in two empty weeks of no content. Since release, mostly store changes instead of actual content. Current MP removes many user supported features from previous titles, and is shunned for spending six years of development with a glorified demo to show for it. If anything, TLOU2 MP may have more MP content in less time than what 343i pushed with Infinite's MP.

Needs six and a half years for anything more than what they have currently (sad!), the future support time frame is apparently ten years and they'll probably need all ten years to have MP in a state like previous releases using 343i's current track record.

Basically, Halo is underwhelming considering the scope, whereas you have an outlook of something extra with TLOU2. I expect that to be underwhelming (never really liked Uncharted's MP), but it's passing expectations already by virtue of being there on a targeted SP only game. This is why TLOU2 gets a pass. You can hate it, deny it, put more smilies into it, but that's the way it currently is.

Larry on.