Why does the Coli pretend that African and West Indian immigrants don't exist

[Supper]

Dude, YOU RESPONDED TO ME, initially. I wasn't and still am not responding to any claim you made. The onus is on you, to dispute my claim, since you initiated the debate.

I still stand by what I posted, which you haven’t disputed.


Plain n straight

Which is a complete and utter strawman.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Lmao... I had an Ethiopian girl straight up tell me “we aren’t black, I’m not black, don’t call me black. My father explained to me that I am not black and to not let anyone refer to me as black”....

I would be inclined to agree with her if it wasn't a shot at AAs and she and her father were ignorant of what really goes in this country.

 

[Akae Beka]

3 paragraphs IS THE ENTIRE ARTICLE! Now you want me to download the full report, to help you make your argument for you?




Yeah, talk about moving goal post here.................

Bro you went and searched that website, not the page I initially sent you but another older article on that site, trying to prove me wrong.

When I went to the link u sent, it was a small article , the full report (on the same page)give you much more details. I wouldn’t have seen the whole report, had you not sent the link. Talk about cherry picking data

Now I asked you to read the report and you get upset

 

[Akae Beka]

Dude, YOU RESPONDED TO ME, initially. I wasn't and still am not responding to any claim you made. The onus is on you, to dispute my claim, since you initiated the debate.




Which is a complete and utter strawman.

That’s how we’re gonna end this, sticking with the ole straw man eh?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

@Supper @blazinskillz - you two aren't arguing the same thing.

@blazinskillz -
yes, the 1965 immigration law did not cause the uptick in immigration and yes there were nubian immigrants in the early 1900s. However, the number of caribbean immigrants currently in the US would be much lower if the rules didn't change.
IOW, they did not come because of the 1965 law, but more of them were allowed into the country because of it.

 

[Colicat]

I am descended from Yoruba and Fulani people so I can't deny or hate on the same people who share my blood in America...or any black immigrant for that matter. What you see on the Coli is not the same thing you see in the real world. SMH.

All I hope is that the current racial and political climate continues to wake up all black people to work together in any capacity. Pan-Africanism may be a pipe dream but it's cool seeing Black Americans from different regional cultures, West Indians, West Africans, East Africans, and Black Latinos all come together to party, have fun, work, build and eat in Houston. Black immigrants (especially Nigerians) might not relate to the black struggle like we think they should but please believe that they don't fukk with oyinbos and ndi ocha because they catch the same hell we do in Houston.

Believe it or not, one of the biggest issues between black natives and black immigrants is the defensiveness and ignorance Black Americans show about real-live black immigrants while being able to rattle off info about Egypt and black civilizations. Clearly we make the effort to learn about black history but it hurts when you don't make an effort to learn the same about black immigrants.

Much like racism, anti-blackness is taught and ignorance about blacks from other countries only contributes to the anti-blackness that black immigrants develop when dealing with Black Americans.

You have no clue about the systemic oppression AfrAms have endured for centuries and still endure today. Your comment about defensiveness and ignorance about Black immigrant culture is Ahistorical, self centered, and grounded in egotism.

The concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a farce.

 

[AlainLocke]

You have no clue about the systemic oppression AfrAms have endured for centuries and still endure today. Your comment about defensiveness and ignorance about Black immigrant culture is Ahistorical, self centered, and grounded in egotism.

The concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a farce.

 

[Lil' Kartwheel]

You have no clue about the systemic oppression AfrAms have endured for centuries and still endure today. Your comment about defensiveness and ignorance about Black immigrant culture is Ahistorical, self centered, and grounded in egotism.

The concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend is a farce.

I respect your point but I'm only stating what I've heard from my black friends who come from immigrant backgrounds but are raised in America. A lot of them feel like it's pretty much damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes to black immigrants and Black American relations. When we all try to connect and understand problems like systemic oppression in America, it basically turns into a pissing contest but when we all do our own separate things, it basically turns into a pissing contest as well.

Some black immigrants basically give up because they feel like they'll never be "right" in the eyes of Black Americans.

 

[Jesus Bhrist]

That's been the whole crux of this current argument. Alliances and unity. If African Americans feel that Africans and Caribbeans aren't in solidarity with them, don't support them in the cause, and even look down on them, then how do you expect African-Americans to sympathize with African and Caribbean immigrants (legai, illegal, or otherwise)? Because AAs are right, Africans and Caribbeans enjoy the rights and privileges that they currently have in this country because largely because of African-Americans. You can't come from a nubian country that's considered to have rampant violence, corruption and/or poverty, come here and enjoy a level of freedom and opportunity that you never had before nor worked for, and now start judging the people who have suffered and fought for any of you to enjoy those rights and privileges. Of course when AAs see you do all that they gonna tell you . If those immigrants or naturalized immigrants don't even take the time to learn the history or what the issues are and just start judging out of context, then clearly there's not gonna be much care when it's the immigrant's turn to get shytted on.

See this is where I'm lost bro, post videos or articles of Caribbeans & Africans specifically claiming that African Americans deserve to be oppressed or police brutality can be solved if you guys picked you're pants up, obeyed the law & stop being aggressive & combative with police , see there's numerous videos & articles of African American men & women calling each other c00ns, bedwenches, uncle Tom's & sellouts remember "black men are the white men of the black community" article ?, There's even videos of African American American men and women directly or indirectly, supporting the actions George Zimmerman, Micheal Slager, Darren Wilson Etc... Even American Blacks telling Colin Kaepernick to cut his hair & tone down his rhetoric & supporting the owners decision to blackball him, I'll admit there's a segment of Caribbeans & Africans who are c00nish, but that can be Said about African Americans as well, so why generalize a whole Continent or the whole Caribbean based on some people you've encountered who were c00ns? Then there's this whole phenomenon of black men perpetuating colorism for dating lightskin women, but nikkaz keep posting Yvette Carnell videos which has me even more confused, so Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Farrakhan, Stokely Carmicheal did nothing for African Americans, if nikkaz wannabe divisive and start talking that nikkaz gotta go back to their country then I'm fall back & let y'all cook, because White Europeans came together as well as Arabs with sole intention to enslave Africans, they didn't give a fukk if you spoke Oromo, Swahili, Amharic, Zulu, Or Yoruba you was going to be a slave based on your skin complexion, so you if you think you can fight the Portuguese, Spaniards, British, Dutch, French, Americans , as well as Latinos, Arabs, & Asians who are ALL ANTI-BLACK by yourselves then do what you do

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

I'm african american, and I'm noticing how you're trying to change narratives

I mean even if you're misinformed view of affirmative action were true, why are only the black africans in your crosshairs when white asian latino arab and indian students are enrolling in these schools at higher rates than black americans too?

Why are black immigrants the ones who should be denied? Color of the skin right?

He wasn’t miss informed. He was 100% correct.

But yeah, it should only be AAs getting affirmative action so all those other groups should be denied

 

[Colicat]

I respect your point but I'm only stating what I've heard from my black friends who come from immigrant backgrounds but are raised in America. A lot of them feel like it's pretty much damned if you do, damned if you don't when it comes to black immigrants and Black American relations. When we all try to connect and understand problems like systemic oppression in America, it basically turns into a pissing contest but when we all do our own separate things, it basically turns into a pissing contest as well.

Some black immigrants basically give up because they feel like they'll never be "right" in the eyes of Black Americans.

Point taken. Whether Black immigrants feel that they "can't be right" is a cop out and excuse. If your goal is assimilation and Pan Africanism, then you don't have the luxury of giving up or placing blame.

If your goal is insulation and remittance then call a spade a spade and don't be upset when AfrAms are circling the wagon around our community.

And let's not continue to pretend that assimilation and isolation is achievable.

For full disclosure, my spouse is a first generation Caribbean Black American. We have had many a conversations about why there is tension when our families get together.

 

[Kerkum]

I remember a few years ago this scripted television made a disparaging comment about Filipinos. One of my close Filipino friends, who is usually mum on race, felt the need to lecture me about how everyone needs to be outraged. He then went on to say that if the comment were about blacks people then everyone would be concerned. I’m thinking why don’t you direct that anger and vitriol to the CACS who wrote the shyt in their script. Don’t bring up black folks cause we ain’t say shyt and don’t got shyt to do with it. A lot of non-black “minority” groups will immediately look over at us when CACS start whoopin their asses.

 

[2stainz]

Why should we give a fukk? Most of y'all look down on us and view us the same way cacs do. What benefits do we gain from it? African Americans have no allies.

AAGang, we all we got. dapped.