You mean to the idiot east coast NY fans?
Why does Master P get a pass?
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Master P is broke.
Long Live The Kane
Tyrant Titan
This is a worthless post...vintage Wacky
wild100sboy
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Man I would've killed for a no limit chain in 97, 98 
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Real talk,....
master p, earned probably the best pass possible.
when, he fully exposed the industry and the entire details of the practices, internally.
on top of being the realest record label owner out of the lot who would be considered undesireable business wise.
as, I know for a fact, from solid word of mouth.
that, when p, or mr. miller, comes across talent that knows the admin and exec side.
down to the numbers and the actual verbiage to create addendums.
mr. miller, definitely will say what is really good with that artist.
why they will or will not be able to close, on some real shyt.
art barr
master p, earned probably the best pass possible.
when, he fully exposed the industry and the entire details of the practices, internally.
on top of being the realest record label owner out of the lot who would be considered undesireable business wise.
as, I know for a fact, from solid word of mouth.
that, when p, or mr. miller, comes across talent that knows the admin and exec side.
down to the numbers and the actual verbiage to create addendums.
mr. miller, definitely will say what is really good with that artist.
why they will or will not be able to close, on some real shyt.
art barr
since when?
CashmereThoughts
Veteran
"East coast NY"
Your in the middle of the idiot glass house with your slingshot out. Your regional inferiority complex is amusing.
Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
P didn't put the south on the map please stop. Geto Boyz generally get that respect and Lil' J is credited with creating the Black Owned indie formula for the south not P.I don't even know why we were having an argument about new Orleans in the first place. master p put the entire south on the map. lets be real.
I didn't say lil romeo. I said LIL SOLDIERS. and im pretty sure a romeo album was in the cards regardless. P used to stay having him talk on records.
dog, nobody cares about the bout it slang. holla at me when UNLV makes a record remotely as good as the bout it SONG that master p put out. if p's joint wasn't an all-time classic, it would be just another local-yocal track just like UNLV's chit. same situation with the ice cream man record. I mean, im not condoning, but at the same time, like people said, its not like P was running around calling himself the king. and on top of that, his records were way better.
people don't care about master p tampering with his sale figures because everybody does it. he just had a different way of doing it. so what? and all his money was real. he actually had a lot more money that what was accounted for. but lets not get into that.
I don't "give passes" to people for making money. I could care less if that chit aint touching my pockets. lol. what I look like?
nobody said he was the first rapper to do a movie. he was the first to fund his own chit. and he was the first to do the underground hood movies. nowadays, theres like a new one being filmed every week, but master p was the 1st to do that. and he was the 1st rapper to own his own mainstream film company. this is common knowledge. nothing personal but theres just so much wrong with this thread man.
master p gotta be the only rapper that gets condemned for putting marketing ads in magazines.
nevermind the fact that he was working with half the promotion of his peers and the people that he outsold.
i'll tell ya man. 90% of the master p hate is illogical & ridiculous.
Lil' Bow Wow dropped on the heels of Lil Romeo's success I doubt it was a coincidence judging by how P follows trends.
He bit Ice Cream Man, Tupac, Bout It etc. If you want to be real he bit New Orleans. The bout it song was a tribute to New Orleans, the rest of the cd is Bay Area music. Once that song popped off he jumped shipped and went the New Orleans route.
Another poster said he was the first rapper to make movies. No he wasn't the first to fund his own movies. Even live squad had a short film out back in '93. P to his credit did it on a whole nother level with having it at blockbusters and what not but he was not the first.
I'm not hating at all. My point about the cd sales is that from what I see, are based on shipped album sales and not actual sales. I used the source ads to show this misconception. I may be wrong, if so, post the riaa #'s and links.
I remember for a while your avi was P. You probably have a connection to him which is fine but facts are facts!
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The way you gave him and people like Diddy a pass is the reason why anyone with no talent can come in the game now. Then you turn around and complain about wanting real hip hop and you complain about how wack the music is when you allowed the game to be in he state its in. Now any hustler with enough money and a gimmick can surround themselves with real talent and succeed in the game. French Montana is a prime example of this.
Plexxx
Return of the G
P is a legend he will always get a pass
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
of course you would say that.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
"East coast NY"
Your in the middle of the idiot glass house with your slingshot out. Your regional inferiority complex is amusing.
hes right tho.
lets be honest.
P didn't put the south on the map please stop. Geto Boyz generally get that respect and Lil' J is credited with creating the Black Owned indie formula for the south not P.
Lil' Bow Wow dropped on the heels of Lil Romeo's success I doubt it was a coincidence judging by how P follows trends.
He bit Ice Cream Man, Tupac, Bout It etc. If you want to be real he bit New Orleans. The bout it song was a tribute to New Orleans, the rest of the cd is Bay Area music. Once that song popped off he jumped shipped and went the New Orleans route.
Another poster said he was the first rapper to make movies. No he wasn't the first to fund his own movies. Even live squad had a short film out back in '93. P to his credit did it on a whole nother level with having it at blockbusters and what not but he was not the first.
I'm not hating at all. My point about the cd sales is that from what I see, are based on shipped album sales and not actual sales. I used the source ads to show this misconception. I may be wrong, if so, post the riaa #'s and links.
I remember for a while your avi was P. You probably have a connection to him which is fine but facts are facts!
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"putting the south on the map" was a poor choice of words, but I was rushing when I typed that.
what I meant to say is that P is hands-down the biggest pioneer of the south, made it into a relevant viable coast, and opened up the floodgates for a chitload of rappers to get deals. all this stuff the south got going on now is thanks to P. and im sure you know that, but again, my bad for that rushed statement in my previous post.
the bow wow chit is speculation. P already had child rap acts before romeo AND bow wow. in the same vein you can say that bow wow dropped because of the lil soldiers, as well as the mag 7. but that's not the cool statement to make. I get it.
I wasn't even arguing about some of this stuff that you typed all this chit about. lol.
I forgot live squad but that wasn't a full-length flick.
the sales thing is another argument that you got twisted. maybe youre confusing me with someone else? but since you want to know, my thing is, why is it a problem when P lists shipped sales(if that's even what he did), but all these other labels do the same chit. is it because P is a rapper that he gets backlash? and like I said, I don't know if its shipped or sold, im not into sales-tracking like a lot of yall. its all about the impact.
I don't even remember having a master p avi. you getting me confused with someone again? that's a great idea tho.
the difference between master p & dudes like French is that master p has classic albums and is responsible for a lot of other classic chit. so obviously, hes not a no-talent. is he a lyricist? hell no, but he made better music than the VAST majority of them. so to say that hes a no-talent is bullchit. the only thing that he wasn't particularly good at was lyrics. theres other qualities of a rap artist that he excelled greatly at. hence, the reason why his catalog in the '90s was so ill. I know that this isn't the cool thing to say in this era of the internet, but that's not my problem.
also, I don't recall giving diddy a pass. I don't recall not giving him a pass either.
h2o_proof
Thread Closed...As Usual
Wow, this reads like shyt we normally say about white people. For that fact alone P gets props.
Who cares whether or not P gets a pass? You can't compare him to rappers, rap was a vehicle for other entrepreneurial endeavors. Good or bad, the "corny" stuff that P was doing is now commonplace. 360 deals (before they were called 360), retro-active marketing, branding diversification and just to say it, as corny as you may have thought it was, what he did with Pen & Pixel was revolutionary in that it was one of the catalysts to EVERYTHING we do today with graphics across all forms of digital media.
Somebody in the thread mentioned the fact that he went bankrupt implying that he's broke or something. Dude was running a fukking monopoly! A monopoly on a business model that was unsustainable at company level, but is now the gold standard at the industry level. Filing bankruptcy was a clever business move as he was able to get in and get out before the digital age whereas other labels have been trying to recover since the market crashed.
P showed everybody the game, this is the double edged sword. He showed you how easy it was, he's admired by those with the same entrepreneurial spirit, hated by purists and despised by the industry all for the same reason. Entrepreneurs love that he moved so much product in a short span of time, purists hate that he moved so much [subpar] product in such a short span of time and industry execs despise that he was able to move so much product while keeping most of the profits.
Reality Check
Keepin' it 100
Actually was worse. Dude has 2pac look-a-likes in videos and co-signed his brother stealing an unreleased 2pac song and calling it his own. Got lucky Suge was locked up.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
what was suge gonna do?
and he didn't steal the song. ITS A TRIBUTE TRACK!!!! he even says RIP 2PAC at the end and says that nobody could mess with him.
just because something isn't released in stores, it doesn't mean that nobody heard it. have you ever heard of the makaveli bootleg tapes? those songs were out years before bossaline.
you act like they broke into death row offices and stole the reels.people confuse paying homage with biting. that's what I was saying yesterday. most of these rappers that master p was supposedly biting were actually down with no limit. granted, theres also examples of actual biting. im not arguing that. but most of the chit that gets labeled as biting is
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