Why Does Detroit Hip-Hop Sound Like Cali (More Specifically The Bay) Hip-Hop?

[blockburna420]

 

[KingOFKings]

Be a 4 hour drive from Toronto and somehow be “mid-west”.

Is Detroit the most “North East” Mid West city?

Lol

 

[Doomsday]

its the accent/beats and historically oakland is just like detroit...majority black city ..

No it isn't, and Oakland was never a majority black city.

The origin of what, exactly?

I really dont recall Detroit rappers coming out here, yet Bay Area rappers where all over Detroit.

Cali nikkas don't be in Detroit like that. They do the typical tourist shyt and get the fukk out.

 

[manyfaces]

Cash money dominated the streets for literally a decade. That Detroit hustling sound was not around at the same time as cash money and first started showing up 3-5 years after cash money blew up in 99. They had a direct influence on the production whether or not it’s admitted

Somehow Cash money, not Blade, fathered Detroit hustla music? News to me and everybody else who actually grew up in Detroit

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Somehow Cash money, not Blade, fathered Detroit hustla music? News to me and everybody else who actually grew up in Detroit

Never said they fathered it, Detroit still sounds like detroit and especially as far as how they rap. I did say that cash money influenced the production and especially the drum patterns and swing.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Similar cultures and vibes + connected hustle history.
No, Detroit is not "Bay Jr" like KC.
Detroit developed on its' own, been bass heavy and street oriented since Awesome Dre and maybe before that...

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

Be a 4 hour drive from Toronto and somehow be “mid-west”.

Is Detroit the most “North East” Mid West city?

Lol

Toronto is not a factor.
Midwest was a cultural marker from the 1800s, when certain parts of the US were literally the "middle of the West"...now the West is all the way in Cali.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

Yes I know Parliament is from Planfield. They located to Detroit.We already explored this in other threads.

The genesis of The Westcoast sound is based off Bernie Worrell (Funkadelic/Parliment) Bass Synth sound.Again he also influenced One Way. Matter fact our first popualr hiphop/dj crew Uncle Jams Army's was named after the Parliament album 1979.





The Difference between Bay/LA old school sound is that, LA artist hired professional musician to play while Too Short played a simple basic rhythm themselves.

I feel.

My point is cats where sampling funk in the Bay other than P-Funk when sampling became popular.

Uncle Jams Army did Electro disco funk...not straight up funk ala P Funk.

The genesis of the west coast sound started with Electro Disco funk like many a other artist emulating the transition of Disco to rap music.

See The group you just named and World Class Wreckin Cru.

People didnt just begin sampling and using funk music all of a sudden.

It was a gradual transition.


All those songs you mentioned where programmed and wouldnt take live musicians to produce, which they actual DIDNT use.

Short produced those tracks and Afrika Islam and Evil E produced tracks for Ice T.

Just because someones uses the moog for production doesnt make it P-Funk.

 

[FeloniousMonk]

No it isn't, and Oakland was never a majority black city.



Cali nikkas don't be in Detroit like that. They do the typical tourist shyt and get the fukk out.

Im speaking on rappers, breh.

Not random Californians going to vacay in Detroit..

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

Detroit producers like J Dilla kinda where a mix of all regions in America.

 

[Premeditated]

The origin of what, exactly?

I really dont recall Detroit rappers coming out here, yet Bay Area rappers where all over Detroit.

Matter of fact, I bet there more BAY artists that get love in play in Detroit, than Detroit artists, get love and play in the Bay..

funny they keep posting all this music to prove they started the style when the Click came out before all those Detroit rappers

 

[Whogivesafuck]

I feel.

My point is cats where sampling funk in the Bay other than P-Funk when sampling became popular.

I sure they were. we are talking about something different from there New York counterparts.

Uncle Jams Army did Electro disco funk...not straight up funk ala P Funk.

They were a DJ crew doing live funk breaks who started recording material when Planet Rock hit nationwide.They copied a already established NY formula.

The genesis of the west coast sound started with Electro Disco funk like many a other artist emulating the transition of Disco to rap music.

Agree to disagree. Electro disco is just emulating what new york was doing with soul sonic force and going from there. Nothing was distinctive are different about it. The sea change was 85, 86 when artist carved out a signature sound. In ryhme and reason doc Chuck D of public enemy was asked what is westcoast hiphop sound."They sampled funk we wouldn't touch". Muggs later eluding to keyboard and drum and synth based. 21:12

See The group you just named and World Class Wreckin Cru.

But there biggest hit was sampling New Birth.. New york nikkas wasnt fukking with that.

People didnt just begin sampling and using funk music all of a sudden.

It was a gradual transition.

I agree.

All those songs you mentioned where programmed and wouldnt take live musicians to produce, which they actual DIDNT use.

Short produced those tracks and Afrika Islam and Evil E produced tracks for Ice T.

Check out T interview with combat jack and his own podcast. They used session musicians for his work.

Just because someones uses the moog for production doesnt make it P-Funk.

Enjoyed the exchange but we going in circles.

 

[Jemmy]

It’s the Mississippi-Alabama connection.

 

[Mainy]

Come on man. Which bay rapper sounds like this?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Bay Area music has a long history of being popular throughout the Midwest. Collaboration between the regions started in the 90s, and indeed if you listen to music from the midwest and the bay, you'll see that there's a lot of overlap in their uses of samples. I don't think this is either region trying to bite another, but rather just a natural development that has led to a unity and exchange between the two scenes.

All this.