@people still believing the Willie Lynch letter is a real document in 2012.
Wow, I had never heard that it wasn't true. Your post prompted me to do some research and I'll be damned. I was even taught about willy lynch in highschool.
why do we always say that we were slaves for 400 years?
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Wow, I had never heard that it wasn't true. Your post prompted me to do some research and I'll be damned. I was even taught about willy lynch in highschool.
iPod Raheem 2.0
D, mother****er, D.
All depends on how you define slavery.
If you view capitalism as an institution that produces conditions of de facto slavery, then it's quite reasonable to hypothesize that slavery has been around for centuries. You would at least have to go back to the birth of capitalism. So that means 500+ years.
We arrived on slave ships in chains at the turn of the 16th century. And a disproportionate amount of us are in prisons today--still in chains.
We were working for free then. And we work for free or minimal wages today.
We were getting whipped, beat, and brutalized by plantation overseers then. And we are getting shot, beat, and brutalized by police today.
It's all a matter of perspective.
The more pressing question is what makes you think you are free?
If you view capitalism as an institution that produces conditions of de facto slavery, then it's quite reasonable to hypothesize that slavery has been around for centuries. You would at least have to go back to the birth of capitalism. So that means 500+ years.
We arrived on slave ships in chains at the turn of the 16th century. And a disproportionate amount of us are in prisons today--still in chains.
We were working for free then. And we work for free or minimal wages today.
We were getting whipped, beat, and brutalized by plantation overseers then. And we are getting shot, beat, and brutalized by police today.
It's all a matter of perspective.
The more pressing question is what makes you think you are free?
Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson
I dont have a afro i have a amerifro
You blas r so ugrayful to da while man who ressq u from da jungles uh Africa.
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good shh... they dont hear you tho.
aint nothin sadder than a bunch of slaves who think theyre free
newworldafro
DeeperThanRapBiggerThanHH
For the purpose of this thread the OP is referring to European Colonial Plantation Slavery in the New World/Western Hemisphere, specifically......now no doubt, folks form all corners of the world have endured bondage/slavery throughout human history..
Perspective of whether or not we are currently free can be seen in this thread right here... http://www.the-coli.com/higher-learning/22151-us-becoming-police-state.html
iPod Raheem 2.0
D, mother****er, D.
So we're not on plantations now. This is true. How much have our living conditions really changed/improved, though? The projects and poor inner city hoods still look and seem pretty fukked up, in my opinion.
And I was referring to the elite white Europeans who stole the land of America and enslaved peoples of color to labor for their economic benefit. The ones who ran the slave trade. They've been running shyt for centuries.
edit: Btw, thanks for the thread link. My first time in the HL forum. I think I may come thru more often.
Black people are very much free in 2012, what black people aren't is organized and focused, but we are definitely free
call_me_step_daddy
Real nikkaz,beat bytches
iPod Raheem 2.0
D, mother****er, D.
In some regard, you are absolutely right: We are free. We certainly have freedoms under the law just like everyone else. We certainly aren't living like we were even 100 years ago.
But you have to help me understand some things:
If we're definitely free, why do we make up 13% of the total US population and 40% of the prison population?
If we're definitely free, why are we still being beat down and killed by the cops?
If we're definitely free, why are so many of us poor, living in impoverished conditions, and reliant on the govt/charities to subsist?
If we're definitely free, why are we dealing drugs and participating in gangs?
If we're definitely free, why do so many of us drop out of high school and so few of us have college educations?
Maybe we're not as free as you think.
Because that's not what freedom means, freedom doesn't mean everything will be allright, freedom means you wake up in the morning and do whatever you want, and the reality is that most black people wake up and do whatever they want
If black people wake up and are not organizing and are engaging in illegal activities then that's on us, it doesn't mean we aren't free tho
nikka shut up
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Patrick Kane
Superstar
\WEEEEELLLLLLLL............
a. It doesn't mean slavery only in the U.S., it means the entire New World/Western Hemisphere..........not long after Columbus accidentally "discovered" the Caribbean....
b. Slavery didn't end everywhere in the New World/Western Hemisphere at the same time, the last two holdouts were Cuba .......
and Brazil.........................................
c. So 1502 - 1888 is 386 years is almost 400 years, thus the 400 years of slavery is ACCURATE .........throw in Jim Crow years and you go way past 400 years..
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Thank you. Some dumb nigggas on here
call_me_step_daddy
Real nikkaz,beat bytches
the date RZA used is the same date i (and a lot of other people
) assumed slavery started..which is incorrect it seems based on the info thats been presented in this thread
) assumed slavery started..which is incorrect it seems based on the info thats been presented in this thread
well i'll be damned link to the exposal?...i remember being taught that in Junior High
