Why do some black people claim obviously mixed people as black?

[Thabo]

Guys it's real simple why no African Americans should claim biracials as black, and I will dead the debate. In order to understand the rule, you must understand that whites created it and that's why it doesn't make any sense for any self-respecting black person to follow it. It follows the rule of hypodescent and is meant to keep the white race as pure as possible, that's why you had such terms as invisible blackness. here is a great analogy:

A barrel of fine wine sits in the same room as a barrel of raw sewage. Put a drop of the wine into the barrel of sewage and you still have a barrel of fine wine and a barrel of raw sewage.
However, put a drop of the sewage into the fine wine, and all of a sudden, you have two barrels of raw sewage.

So by following the one drop rule you accept that whiteness is pure and blackness isn't. Purity is good, clean and while impurity is filthy and bad. Keep relegating your tribe into a trash bag and following white supremacist logic and see how far you succeed.

 

[Thabo]

So Bob Marley is not black?


He repped Pan-Africanism hard, though.






Yeah I have light-skinned cousins that could "pass" as mixed but they have 2 full black parents. I dare anybody tell them they're "mixed".

Bob Marley isn't black he's biracial and identified as such.

“My father was white and my mother black, you know. Them call me half-caste, or whatever. Well, me don’t dip on nobody’s side. Me don’t dip on the black man’s side nor the white man’s side. Me dip on God’s side, the one who create me and cause me to come from black and white, who give me this talent.”
Yep sounds like he was pro-equality not black to me..

That's Damian Marley's mother

 

[Thabo]

Race is the white man's concept tho bruh? What part of that don't you get? Africans did not see themselves as all the same race united one identity. Africans identified themselves by tribe. To rhis day Africans don't see themselves as all the same. Race is the white man's shyt. If you're going to acknowledge the concept of race the acknowledge for what it is. You can't compete in a game while ignoring the rules that are in place. Save all that "a white person can't create a black person" bullshyt. That's childish defiance based on insecurity. Spin it how you want, a child born from a white and black person who is visibly of African descent is seen/treated as black and therefore subject to being discriminated against and terrorized by white supremacy due to their African heritage. By definition, that makes them black.

No race is a scientific and valid concept. Africans didn't see themselves as the same ethnicity but they still saw they were the same race. A child born of two different races is treated as mixed and they have a term for them which is mulatto. Tell me this dumbass, if biracials are the same then where do words like quadroon, mulatto come from then? Differences were noted and by definition that makes them mixed, so get that bullshyt out of here.

 

[Barnett114]

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[Barnett114]

Why do people get mad when you call a biracial person biracial tho?
Is it just the exclusion from being called black that upsets them?

At what point when pouring cream into coffee does it become cream with a lil bit of coffee?

Historically speaking, just because someone is discriminated against doesnt make them black. White is an exclusive group in order to hold power. When their numbers get low, they allow another group into the "club" like they did with Irish, Italians, Ukrainians, Polish, etc.

We are so divided and unorganized because we dont know what we are or why. If your only reason for being black is because someone else calls you black, then you are giving that person or people way too much power over your identity.

 

[KwamePiesie]

Haha. The Murican indoctrination has really done a number on some of your minds.
Or maybe some of you are just not very bright.

/

There is really no such thing as mixed race because
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The thing is so many black, ('sub Saharan' African descended), people aren't black lol. They're varying shades of brown, but obviously many are also black. The Arabs and Asians come in every complexion and the Europeans are 'white' mainly. It is just a scale of complexion based on varying factors I would imagine we are all aware of, mainly to do with biology, natural selection and historical exposure to the sun.

And yet we want to remain attached to this ridiculously outdated and repeatedly refuted concept of 'race'.

THANK YOU BREDREN.. THANK YOU!
YOU ARE LITERALLY THE ONLY PERSON IN HERE WHO MAKES SOME DAMN SENSE

@cook @Brooklynzson switch rep back on so i can rep this post

 

[Thabo]

BUT MOST BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA HAVE BEEN MIXED WIT SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES......I BET THERES ONLY 1 OR 2 PURE BLACK PEOPLE ON THIS ENTIRE SITE, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT. SO BY THOSE STANDARDS, ALMOST NOBODY IS BLACK....MARTIN LAWRENCE ISN'T BLACK, NEITHER IS CHARLES BARKLEY. BECAUSE U PUT THEM NEXT TO PURE BLACK AFRICANS, AND THEY CLEARLY STAND OUT. SO WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE??

Ah the we all mixed fallacy, stop acting dense. Whites are also mixed too but you don't see them eagerly embracing people with direct black parents as one of their own. If you were really that mixed there wouldn't be all this racial strife in america and stigma against race-mixing.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

So its gotta be 49% white or lower? Is that what qualifies as black now?

nah, you just gotta have two black parents breh.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

So Bob Marley is not black?


He repped Pan-Africanism hard, though.






Yeah I have light-skinned cousins that could "pass" as mixed but they have 2 full black parents. I dare anybody tell them they're "mixed".

everyone knows bob is mixed, with a white father.

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

Guys it's real simple why no African Americans should claim biracials as black, and I will dead the debate. In order to understand the rule, you must understand that whites created it and that's why it doesn't make any sense for any self-respecting black person to follow it. It follows the rule of hypodescent and is meant to keep the white race as pure as possible, that's why you had such terms as invisible blackness. here is a great analogy:

A barrel of fine wine sits in the same room as a barrel of raw sewage. Put a drop of the wine into the barrel of sewage and you still have a barrel of fine wine and a barrel of raw sewage.
However, put a drop of the sewage into the fine wine, and all of a sudden, you have two barrels of raw sewage.

So by following the one drop rule you accept that whiteness is pure and blackness isn't. Purity is good, clean and while impurity is filthy and bad. Keep relegating your tribe into a trash bag and following white supremacist logic and see how far you succeed.

THE MOST LOGICAL reasoning

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Black is for us in the western hemisphere who don't (didn't) know our history. If I was igbo, zulu etc.. I damn sure wouldn't be calling myself black.

people of those backgrounds in a western setting, do call themselves "black"

 

[IllmaticDelta]

How can a Black child come out of a White woman's vagina ?

Those American slave masters clearly had something in mind when they created this "One Drop Rule" thing. They were smart, you gotta give them that.

The One Drop rule as we now know it didn't exist during slavery

Both before and after the American Civil War, many people of mixed ancestry who "looked white" and were of mostly white ancestry were legally absorbed into the white majority. State laws established differing standards. For instance, 1822 Virginia law stated that to be defined as mulatto (that is, multi-racial), a person had to have at least one-quarter (equivalent to one grandparent) African ancestry.[quote 2] This was a looser definition than the state's 20th-century "one-drop rule" under the 1924 Racial Integrity Act. This defined a person as legally "colored" (black) for classification and legal purposes if the individual had any African ancestry. Social acceptance and identification were historically the key to classification.

Although the Virginia legislature increased restrictions on free blacks following the Nat Turner Rebellion of 1831, it refrained from establishing a one-drop rule. When a proposal was made by Travis H. Eppes and debated in 1853, representatives realized that such a rule could adversely affect whites, as they were aware of generations of interracial relationships. During the debate, a person wrote to the Charlottesville newspaper:

[If a one-drop rule were adopted], I doubt not, if many who are reputed to be white, and are in fact so, do not in a very short time find themselves instead of being elevated, reduced by the judgment of a court of competent jurisdiction, to the level of a free negro.[4]:230

The state legislators agreed. No such law was passed until 1924, apparently assisted by the fading recollection of familial histories.

 

[3rdWorld]

African Americans dont speak for the entire Black world though..just because a particular standard is common place in America, doesnt mean the rest of the world complies or agrees.

People that are mixed race in Africa, are considered 'coloured' or 'mixed', but not 'Black'..in some cases the reverse happens and they are told they are 'White'.
In Europe, they are classed as 'Biracial' or 'mixed race'..I'm not sure about the West Indies and Latin America.

 

[skeetsinternal]

I don't consider Curry, Griffin, Gordon, LaVine or Clay black...whats them things b...mutts...mongrels?

 

[Prynce]

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