Why do some black people claim obviously mixed people as black?

[IllmaticDelta]

how is posting cute smilies and stating your own unfounded biased opinion as fact countering anything

Im not sure if I should even go back and forth you anymore. Your rep speaks for itself

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

Im not sure if I should even go back and forth you anymore. Your rep speaks for itself

just goes to show you homw meangless this forum rep systema is/circle jerking fakkits post here and it speaks volumes you can't create a credible argument to refute my position

 

[Versa]

Malcolm X's mom is biracial not white.

@bmack21 And @Versa
So, im one of the peeps who advocate acknowledging Biracials as biracial. That doesnt exclude them from being "down for the cause" because they are still partially black.

Let's just call a spade a spade. They are not black. Theyre biracial. Theyre mixed. They are black and white.

If I ask for my coffee black and you give me light and sweet. Is it still black? Is a liger still a lion? Or a tiger? Is green still blue even if its half yellow?

We'll be arguing this forever because I guess its up to ideology. I wouldnt oppose calling Obama the first biracial president or the first Black president. He is the most black president we've had. Others before him also have black blood but not in such a significant amount.

Point being, race to me is a gradient not a binary thing.

That's cool. I was raised by a mom who was brought into this world by a black woman and an (absentee) white man. She never once considered herself mixed and always claims herself as black because of her features, her environment, and her sensibilities. I have a cousin who is half Indian and never claims it either. Who you're brought up around molds your perception on these things, so since two of the proudest black women I know happen to be biracial, I'm not gonna tell them they're "not really black", especially when they'd be called n1993r just as quickly as any full blooded blacks.

I'm the same complexion as you are and don't have a hint of european features in me. Somebody telling me I'm not black because my grandfather is a CAC might lead to them getting punched in the face .

It is what it is. Sometimes social science overrides biological science. I'm of the opinion that race relations favor the former.

 

[BlackManLiveFromLondon]

Us Africans aren't out here claiming mixed as black

Thats what those Americans do

I don't know why either.... its like you're accepting your race as a dumping ground for anybody who is 'rejected' or 'unwanted' by a particular race

Other races aren't quick to claim biracial individuals as one of their own - why do some (mostly AAs ) do this?

Imagine going into any normal African household talkin that 'mixed race = black' talk thats banter material right there

 

[ChatGPT-5]

And what Country is that

Rwanda

 

[ChatGPT-5]

You can't really compare indigenous "black" Africans in this regard to Aframs because outside of let's say Sudan, Ethiopia and Eritrea they don't have a wide gaps in phenotypes amongst the same tribe/related peoples.

wtf what ? do explain.

 

[Kuro]

what africans or other races do dont concern black folks here in the united states...black people dont claim "biracials" as black...some (or many) individuals with one white parent and one black parent have a genuine black identity and belong to the black ethnic group...it happens naturally...you dont have to understand it or agree with it but it is what it is...

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Us Africans aren't out here claiming mixed as black

Thats what those Americans do

I don't know why either.... its like you're accepting your race as a dumping ground for anybody who is 'rejected' or 'unwanted' by a particular race

Other races aren't quick to claim biracial individuals as one of their own - why do some (mostly AAs ) do this?

Imagine going into any normal African household talkin that 'mixed race = black' talk thats banter material right there

Your missing the point. The Afram Cultural identity has always been shaped like this as @IllmaticDelta has already pointed out

Aframs have the most comprehensive view point on blackness in the entire diaspora. We should, we basically defined it in the modern sense

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Us Africans aren't out here claiming mixed as black

Thats what those Americans do

It would make sense because Africans outside of certain ones are relatively homogeneous whereas Afram phenotypes and identity is already linked to a hyrbid reality. See, you can't really compare the Afram reality to unmixed Africans where it's easy to draw the line between "pure" and "mixed". Aframs is more similar to other new world groups where they are basically Creolized in Culture and also Genetics. This holds true for Jamaicans, Haitians, Brazilians, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Dominicans etc...The difference is Afram identity was formed in a two tier colorline while all these others were formed in a 3 tier caste system.

I don't know why either.... its like you're accepting your race as a dumping ground for anybody who is 'rejected' or 'unwanted' by a particular race

see above

Other races aren't quick to claim biracial individuals as one of their own - why do some (mostly AAs ) do this?

see above again and...

Imagine going into any normal African household talkin that 'mixed race = black' talk thats banter material right there

It's banter material in africans who lack admx so the gap between a "pure" type and "mixed" type stand out more but what about Africans who have the same wide phenotypical gaps as Aframs but their admx is just older like Sudanese, Ethiopians and Eritreans?

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

Your missing the point. The Afram Cultural identity has always been shaped like this as @IllmaticDelta has already pointed out

Aframs have the most comprehensive view point on blackness in the entire diaspora. We should, we basically defined it in the modern sense

nah...Illmatic diva is a delusional fakkit( whom comes off as tragic mulatto or out right white supremacist with creepy infatuation with cac/black admxiture the Africans brother got it right AAs are way to open letting others in our circle....now i don't mind halfbreedss(whom have our blood) given they understand they are only honary AAs by default pf our compassion for them and not the standard/true AAs but it's gone too far when you got everyone from cacs, ayrabs , Chinamen and Messicans giving black passes by new black sambos thirsty for validation from others

 

[Sauanaffe Tustunnagee]

It would make sense because Africans outside of certain ones are relatively homogeneous whereas Afram phenotypes and identity is already linked to a hyrbid reality. See, you can't really compare the Afram reality to unmixed Africans where it's easy to draw the line between "pure" and "mixed". Aframs is more similar to other new world groups where they are basically Creolized in Culture and also Genetics. This holds true for Jamaicans, Haitians, Brazilians, Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, Dominicans etc...The difference is Afram identity was formed in a two tier colorline while all these others were formed in a 3 tier caste system.




see above



see above again and...

It's banter material in africans who lack admx so the gap between a "pure" type and "mixed" type stand out more but what about Africans who have the same wide phenotypical gaps as Aframs but their admx is just older like Sudanese, Ethiopians and Eritreans?

why is this obsessed troglodyte resposting fallacies about us(AAs) i refuted multiples already

 

[IllmaticDelta]

just goes to show you homw meangless this forum rep systema is/circle jerking fakkits post here

you have a bad rep because you post unfounded and nonsensical BS

and it speaks volumes you can't create a credible argument to refute my position

I already smashed your arguments but here goes some more

-obviously not for you considering your dumbass ass thinks average looking AAs are too admixed to pass for African

-elaborate....you want me to believe white traders identified and divided certain African tribes based on their skillset picking cotton vs doing house chores in the big house

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[IllmaticDelta]

nah...Illmatic diva is a delusional fakkit( whom comes off as tragic mulatto or out right white supremacist with creepy infatuation with cac/black admxiture the Africans brother got it right AAs are way to open letting others in our circle....

One thing people must remember is the full blown modern AfroAmerican identity came about due to the struggle and jim crow laws. Before that, you had people with regional flavors culturally and you had different classes of AfroAmericans or what came to be Black Americans.


Origins of African-American Ethnicity or African-American Ethnic Traits


The newly formed Black Yankee ethnicity of the early 1800s differed from today’s African-American ethnicity. Modern African-American ethnic traits come from a post-bellum blending of three cultural streams: the Black Yankee ethnicity of 1830, the slave traditions of the antebellum South, and the free Creole or Mulatto elite traditions of the lower South. Each of the three sources provided elements of the religious, linguistic, and folkloric traditions found in today’s African-American ethnicity.30


Essays on the U.S. Color Line » Blog Archive » The Color Line Created African-American Ethnicity in the North

this is never going to change my friend

 

[IllmaticDelta]

why is this obsessed troglodyte resposting fallacies about us(AAs) i refuted multiples already

you didn't refute shyt