Why do so many people(mainly black) have a hard time understanding metro areas ?

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No one cares about a metro area. When people speak about a city they are talking about Chicago proper, Miami proper, etc…the actual city. The most popular person in modern history is from Gary and not one time has anyone ever said Michael Jackson is from Chicago.
So you mean that when you go to Miami Beach, you'll not say I'm in Miami? When you are in Winchester and Paradise, you don't say you are in Las Vegas? :mjlol:
 

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So you mean that when you go to Miami Beach, you'll not say I'm in Miami? When you are in Winchester and Paradise, you don't say you are in Las Vegas? :mjlol:
Miami Beach is within Miami proper. It’s not a separate city, village or township so that doesn’t track.

I don’t know those places in Vegas because I stay on the strip when I visit. I know Summerlin and I’m pretty sure that’s technically Vegas but it may be unincorporated or a Township. They may be within the city limits or may not be. If anything it’s a suburb of Vegas and part of the metro area obviously. I don’t think you understand the conversation being had with me though given your response. I’m not saying metro areas don’t exist nikka :pachaha: This is about Gary and people try to rebut me with other cities and I’d oblige the conversation if I’m knowledgeable on the city.

When you’re in Naperville and someone ask you, which Topgolf are you at, are you going to say the one in Chicago?
 

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Miami Beach is within Miami proper. It’s not a separate city, village or township so that doesn’t track.

I don’t know those places in Vegas because I stay on the strip when I visit. I know Summerlin and I’m pretty sure that’s technically Vegas but it may be unincorporated or a Township. They may be within the city limits or may not be. If anything it’s a suburb of Vegas and part of the metro area obviously. I don’t think you understand the conversation being had with me though given your response. I’m not saying metro areas don’t exist nikka :pachaha: This is about Gary and people try to rebut me with other cities and I’d oblige the conversation if I’m knowledgeable on the city.

When you’re in Naperville and someone ask you, which Topgolf are you at, are you going to say the one in Chicago?
The strip is in Paradise and Winchester south of Las Vegas.


Miami Beach is a coastal resort city in Miami-Dade County, Florida, United States. It is part of the Miami metropolitan area of South Florida. The municipality is located on natural and human-made barrier islandsbetween the Atlantic Ocean and Biscayne Bay, the latter of which separates the Beach from the mainland city of Miami.
 

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The strip is in Paradise and Winchester south of Las Vegas.


Miami Beach is a coastal resort city in Miami-Dade County, Florida, United States. It is part of the Miami metropolitan area of South Florida. The municipality is located on natural and human-made barrier islandsbetween the Atlantic Ocean and Biscayne Bay, the latter of which separates the Beach from the mainland city of Miami.



I know Miami and LA always confuse me because there are other cities in LA county and Miami-Dade county
 

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And why ain’t
The strip is in Paradise and Winchester south of Las Vegas.


Miami Beach is a coastal resort city in Miami-Dade County, Florida, United States. It is part of the Miami metropolitan area of South Florida. The municipality is located on natural and human-made barrier islandsbetween the Atlantic Ocean and Biscayne Bay, the latter of which separates the Beach from the mainland city of Miami.
Ah ok cool. So they have separate city govts. I didn’t realize. So my question is, what about this challenges my stance in here. I’m a bit confused. Or are just correcting me about Miami/Beach, which I appreciate?
 

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What makes it different though in comparison to the other cities mentioned (I'm genuinely asking)?
How the city is designed and the reason for the population boom. Like Atlanta, its boom came in the 90s and the city was not designed to accommodate that population and corporate headquarter boom. There literally was just not enough real estate. The perimeter towns turned into what felt like neighborhoods of Atlanta and everything was geared towards that even from the city’s handling of it (except MARTA). It was just very odd and created a city sprawl much like LA always has been because of its size.

There are 2 places I tell people not to move if you don’t have a vehicle, Atlanta and Los Angeles.
 
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It's always a funny discussion about this in Atlanta. The city is small as hell. nikkas who live on the east side don't actually live in Atlanta. They usually claim Decatur. But the funny thing is, they don't live in Decatur either. They just have Decatur zip codes. They don't live in a city at all. nikkas who live in Gresham Park, Candler-McAfee, Panthersville, Snapfinger, etc. all live in unicorporated Dekalb county.
One of the easiest ways to get someone upset from Atlanta.
Most large urban areas are Metropolitan. That's where the economic strength comes from.
 

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And why ain’t

Ah ok cool. So they have separate city govts. I didn’t realize. So my question is, what about this challenges my stance in here. I’m a bit confused. Or are just correcting me about Miami/Beach, which I appreciate?
Your stance was that nobody cares about metro areas, my stance is that sometimes they do.

Borders and stuff are so arbitrary and technical at times. Mostly relevant for policing and such things, while the culture and public transportation for example might go further than those technical borders.

LA county/metro is such an area. Like who would say that Snoop, Cube, Dre and them can’t be LA representatives because technically they are not from LA
 
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Your stance was that nobody cares about metro areas, my stance is that sometimes they do.

Borders and stuff are so arbitrary and technical at times. Mostly relevant for policing and such things, while the culture and public transportation for example might go further than those technical borders.

LA county/metro is such an area. Like who would say that Snoop, Cube, Dre and them can’t be LA representatives because technically they are not from LA
I agree. Only nitpick is that cube actually is from LA. He isn’t from Compton
 

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Your stance was that nobody cares about metro areas, my stance is that sometimes they do.

Borders and stuff are so arbitrary and technical at times. Mostly relevant for policing and such things, while the culture and public transportation for example might go further than those technical borders.

LA county/metro is such an area. Like who would say that Snoop, Cube, Dre and them can’t be LA representatives because technically they are not from LA
This is somewhat incorrect. I expounded further in another post. I said no one that wants to “claim” a city cares about the arbitrary lines. I also said LA was an exception.

I’m glad you touched on this a bit thought because the reason people argue over claiming cities comes down to more of a cultural thing. Using LA as an example, Cube is from LA, Snoop and Dre are from Long Beach and Compton. Even with them being different cluster cities, they are all part of LA County and part of LA culture and I agree with your take on that. Vs a place like Irvine or Newport where they are not part of Los Angeles city, not part of Los Angeles County, not part of Los Angeles culture but still part of Greater Los Angeles metro.

An Atlanta equivalent to LBC and Compton would be Marietta and Decatur. An equivalent of Newport would be Lawrenceville for example. However bringing it back to Chicago, Gary would not even be considered a Compton or Long Beach to Chicago but a Newport because it is within a certain distance of the major city.

But like you said, socially, these are arbitrary lines that only matter if someone is trying to claim a city. Most people don’t even bother with that and the local govt doesn’t do it at all. That’s what I was replying to with that one guy.

And that Michael Jackson if anyone else has ever said he was from Chicago.
 

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Wow. I had NO idea there was out of towners that thought like this. Like Jay Z, Nas, Biggie, LL aren't considered NYC rappers by some idiots out there?


Jay and Nas battled to be the king of NYC and they are from Brooklyn and Queens respectfully :heh:

Breh, I'm in Michigan, never been to NY and I've never heard anyone say that the 5 burroughs were separate cities from NYC. That idea has be something relatively new.
 
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