Now they trying to say Wlad ducked Wilder lmao... People who were there said Wlad knocked down Wilder twice in sparring and dominated him. Even in what was posted Wlad says he wants the fight, he was just focused on his upcoming fight he had first and was giving Wilder a chance before taking his belt. After that fight that fight could have happened many times, Wilder/his team wouldn't let it happen. There's a clear pattern of Wilder ducking people, he's had 43 fights and has never had a unification attempt. Anybody can say anything, it's actions that count, WIlder's record speaks for itself.
Why do people pretend like Deontay Wilder didn't duck Wlad and was protected and moved along slowly
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Black_Jesus
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Wilder also said he wanted the fight...
All you have to do is show any ACTION taken by Wlad to try and make a fight with Wilder EVER.. There's a clear pattern of Wlad avoiding Wilder since them sparring sessions
reservoirdogs
Superstar
nah
AJ has a been KTFO since 2018, but somehow he has a better record than Wilder who fought Ortiz, Tyson Fury, Brazeale, Ortiz again and about to rematch Fury.. All tougher opposition than AJs... Only a fagg would believe that
Overall AJ has a better set of beaten names than Wilder. Why would you put Breazeale in there anyway? Breazeale wasn't even top 10 ranked when they fought.
Joshua beat Wlad, Whyte, Povetkin, Parker, Ruiz, Takam...
Wilder beat top 10 rated guys in his 10 defenses only twice and it was the same guy, Ortiz. He hasn't beaten any other top 10 tanked name besides Ortiz and Stiverne back when he won the belt.
Wilder gets credit for the first Ortiz fight, because Ortiz was the HW boogeyman at that time, a dangerous opponent. Hard to give him much credit for being gifted a draw against a Fury they probably thought was well past his physical prime and just got out of 2,5 years of inactivity (drugs, alcohol, obesity, depression) on the back of 2 showcase fights against journeymen. Wilder was a favorite for a reason, not because they thought he would beat the Fury who beat Klitschko but because most ppl thought Fury is jumping back to the world level way too early or even that he won't be ever the same after the layoff. Don't rewrite history breh... And now Fury is the betting favorite, that's not coincidental either.
Dushane Hill
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AJ has a been KTFO since 2018, but somehow he has a better record than Wilder who fought Ortiz, Tyson Fury, Brazeale, Ortiz again and about to rematch Fury.. All tougher opposition than AJs... Only a fagg would believe that
Lol this post is laughable.
Black_Jesus
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I clearly said SINCE 2018... Brazeale was ranked top 10 btw...
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MasterOfAllHeSurveyz
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Both of those are inaccurate. Information pulled from the WBC's rankings folder here. I looked at the rankings of opponents prior to each contest.
Rankings at the time he (Wilder) fought them.
Stiverne - Champ
Molina - 11th
Duhaupas - 12th
Szpilka - 8th
Povektin - 1st (popped dirty - cancelled)
Arreola - 9th
Washington - 8th
Stiverne - 1st (Mando)
Ortiz - 3rd
Fury - 3rd
Breazeale - 4th (Mando)
Ortiz - 6th
As WBC champ, you can't fight anyone that's not a qualified challenger. A qualified challenger (Section 3.3 of WBC Rules) is one of the following:
- anyone ranked in the top ten
- anyone ranked 11-15 with approval
- a champ or ranked QC from another division
- a WBC Emeritus/Diamond/Silver champ
- a former world champ
- champ from another recognized organization (unification)
IBF Rules (Section 5.A)
WBA Rules
WBO Rules (Section 5.A)
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Obviously I wasn’t talking about the WBC’s rankings. Please. I thought it’s common knowledge that when you say top 10 ranked you don’t refer to the alphabet soup rankings where the likes of Shefat Isufi can be top 5 ranked too but the RING or TBRB ranks.
MasterOfAllHeSurveyz
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All this ranking shyt is subjective.
This is the same TBRB that had Carlos Takam ranked higher than Miller, Breazeale and Ruiz Jr. after suffering three losses. 5/28/2018
This is the same TBRB that had Ortiz ranked higher than Wilder before they fought. 7/19/2017
This is the same TBRB that had Breazeale ranked #9, but for no reason, removes him off the list before fighting Wilder and replaces him with Kubrat Pulev. 7/23/2018
Go look at who decides the "rankings" @ TBRB. The only recognizable names/faces on that list are Raskin, Donovan, Rold, Abramowitz, Salazar, and Donovan. Hell, out of its members, it has five Asians and just one lone brother I've never heard of.
They don't even abide by their own rules and guidelines. (Although close losses and poor wins may be reflected in the rankings, the Board will refrain from nullifying the official results, with one exception: If over 75% of the Board agrees that the judges’ decision in a non-championship bout is egregious enough to constitute a “robbery”, then the official winner may be ranked lower than the official loser.)
According to their own rules and guidelines, the rankings are finally decided by the three chairs (Cliff Rold, Tim Starks & Vittorio Parisi) . It is they who have the final say on where a fighter is ranked.
To prevent factionalism, three chairs will arbitrate input and weigh arguments to arrive at reasonable boxer placements. The chairs will serve as facilitators, conduits, and deciding parties as necessary.
All members are invited to propose, discuss, affirm and contest contenders’ movements within divisional rankings. Weight of argument is considered by the chairs primarily in terms of how much support it garners from the rest of the membership.
After Ward-Kovalev I, according to their charter, they respected the decision (when most of the press row thought Kov won) and put Ward above Kovalev. Pre Ward-Kovalev I Post Ward-Kovalev I
After GGG-Canelo I, according to their charter, they respected the draw and kept both guys ranked the same. Pre GGG-Canelo I Post GGG-Canelo I
After Wilder-Fury I, according to their charter, they didn't respect the draw and put Fury over Wilder in their rankings.
This is the same organization that claimed it was created due to the Ring's shenanigans since being acquired by GoldenBoy.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Because that was a worse decision than any of the above even with Fury being knocked down twice.
And no I'm not arguing they are perfect I happen to disagree with some stuff too but that's natural. I guess I could cherry pick stuff I disagree with too if I'd put time in this and start to go over all their rankings.
Overall there's still no better rating committee than them. Their ratings are in general the best.
This is just splitting hairs anyway...
Whyte
Martin
Klitschko
Takam
Parker
Povetkin
Ruiz
Scott
Stiverne
Duhaupas
Szpilka
Arreola
Washington
Ortiz
Which set of names is better? There's only 1 correct answer and you know it too
When this happened, nobody said anything of the sort. So of course, to say it 5 years later, makes a lot of sense.
Boxing fans are clowns.
Boxing fans are clowns.
krackdagawd
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Was reading some recent quotes from Dillian Whyte who saw 1 of the Wlad vs Wilder spars...
"I've seen him getting knocked out," said Whyte. "Wladimir knocked him out.
He was going wild. Wlad backs up, changes his footwork, feinting, feinting, jabs to the body, throws that feint jab, left hook. Wilder had his hands up, he was gone.
It wasn't no knockdown, he was knocked cold. Properly twitching as well.
That's why they probably didn't want him to fight Wlad, because Wlad was going to fight him as a pro and Wilder never fancied it the whole time."
....
Have heard from others who were that that Wlad dropped Wilder twice, 1 with a body shot and 1 with another bigger shot. That would explain even more why Wilder wouldn't take that fight.
"I've seen him getting knocked out," said Whyte. "Wladimir knocked him out.
He was going wild. Wlad backs up, changes his footwork, feinting, feinting, jabs to the body, throws that feint jab, left hook. Wilder had his hands up, he was gone.
It wasn't no knockdown, he was knocked cold. Properly twitching as well.
That's why they probably didn't want him to fight Wlad, because Wlad was going to fight him as a pro and Wilder never fancied it the whole time."
....
Have heard from others who were that that Wlad dropped Wilder twice, 1 with a body shot and 1 with another bigger shot. That would explain even more why Wilder wouldn't take that fight.
Suspicious Dingo
Superstar
Believe obviousfrom a salty, washed up has-been, brehs
I’m not sure about the specifics of this story as I wasn’t there but I do know others who were there said Wilder got knocked down by Wlad twice. And don’t think Whyte could be classed as a has been as he’s younger than Wilder, the current WBC number 1 and interim champion.
This nikka relentless with his Wilder slander 