Why do faggit liberals avoid the real tax question?

[Mook]

logical fallacy and a half

No

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[Robbie3000]

Yes...and a lot of those countries are paying for it now....when that shyt gets out of hand the government is forced to enact "austerity measures" and the people who are used to living high off the hog start to riot in the streets. It's disgusting.

austerity measures were the result of the economy crashing not the welfare state in Europe. They were also a mistake.

Iceland did not enact any austerity measures and they have recovered faster than any other country in Europe.

 

[88m3]

No

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Yes Mook it is.


Care to show me how it isn't?

 

[88m3]

Actually America is obsessed with the belief that they are entitled to everything without having to work for it.

Just the opposite in my experience.

 

[acri1]

Yes...and a lot of those countries are paying for it now....when that shyt gets out of hand the government is forced to enact "austerity measures" and the people who are used to living high off the hog start to riot in the streets. It's disgusting.

Yeah but we are fighting for those entitlements when we simply CANNOT afford them. It's not the governments role to raise some hood boogers 8 kids. People need to re-evaluate their lifestyles before asking government to come in and play

Fair enough, I'll be the first person to say that some people abuse the system and we shouldn't be giving irresponsible people an incentive to have kids and not work. But at the same time, you can't justify letting kids go hungry in a rich country just because their parents are irresponsible.

And there are some things that just make more sense for the government to do. Countries that have universal healthcare spend less per person on healthcare than the U.S does. Why? Because people w/o insurance are just going to to go the ER when something is wrong (which is by far the most expensive form of healthcare) and then not pay their bill. Causing your insurance rates to go up.

 

[88m3]

Yeah but we are fighting for those entitlements when we simply CANNOT afford them.

So is this about money or quality of life?


You're so corny sometimes

 

[GetInTheTruck]

austerity measures were the result of the economy crashing not the welfare state in Europe. They were also a mistake.

Iceland did not enact any austerity measures and they have recovered faster than any other country in Europe.

Yes. But those governments would be better equipped to deal with the crash if they weren't giving people all those unnecessary handouts. You don't have to have a degree in economics to understand that nothing in life is free. Assistance is fine, but it should never get the point where people become comfortable in their squalor.

 

[Robbie3000]

Yes. But those governments would be better equipped to deal with the crash if they weren't giving people all those unnecessary handouts. You don't have to have a degree in economics to understand that nothing in life is free. Assistance is fine, but it should never get the point where people become comfortable in their squalor.

What exactly qualifies as unnecessary handouts?

 

[88m3]

Yes. But those governments would be better equipped to deal with the crash if they weren't giving people all those unnecessary handouts. You don't have to have a degree in economics to understand that nothing in life is free. Assistance is fine, but it should never get the point where people become comfortable in their squalor.

Things would be worse if there weren't these "unnecessary handouts".
I'm not trying to see homeless people and crack heads everywhere again like this is the 80' and 90's. Comfortable in their squalor? Right....

 

[GetInTheTruck]

Fair enough, I'll be the first person to say that some people abuse the system and we should be giving irresponsible people an incentive to have kids and not work. But at the same time, you can't justify letting kids go hungry in a rich country just because their parents are irresponsible.

And there are some things that just make more sense for the government to do. Countries that have universal healthcare spend less per person on healthcare than the U.S does. Why? Because people w/o insurance are just going to to go the ER when something is wrong (which is by far the most expensive form of healthcare) and then not pay their bill. Causing your insurance rates to go up.

I don't like that there are hungry kids in this country either, but look, I don't give money to every single homeless person I see on the street and I doubt you do either. I was in San Diego 2 summers ago and this well dressed "bum" comes up to me and my friends outside a starbucks and asks us for a couple of dollars....we say no and he goes back to where he was sitting and he's over there on a fukking laptop. Only in America.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Arent they paying taxes every time they get paid, friend?

 

[Mook]

Yes Mook it is.


Care to show me how it isn't?

Why don't you show us how it is? You're doing the same shyt a$$hole

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[msims]

Arent they paying taxes every time they get paid, friend?