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Why did they start calling us "African American"?
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Johnny Kilroy
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That's how I feel. I hate all the terms they use for us. Black and white have meanings unto themselves. Inaccurate/non-factual racial group names aside, white represents pure, unsullied, clean, etc. while black represents unknown, scary, evil. But don't be offended by what these colors represent. Instead be offended that these people who have the audacity to call themselves white also have the nerve to call you black.
N!gger, negro, black... they're all offensive terms.
Then they try to call me an African American... Like everything is fair again. Had to throw that line in there.
Self_Born7
SUN OF MAN
two worst terms we call ourselves are black and african american... were afrikans point blank.Hey i'm not pushing one way or the other
...that said I'm curious,why do you "refused to label or call myself african american"?
like where is the country black, and african america at?
Hey i'm not pushing one way or the other
...that said I'm curious,
aint like we choose to come over on our free will, like Italian americans, irish americans, and etc
and shyt, we are not even as americans as far as i can tell, if we have to fight and protest just for basic "american" rights as "americans" have..
i'm Afrikan...
I can smoke a bag a dat
Reminds me of the argument being put forth by the women in the video before...(See video below)My personal usage/perspective.
African = branch(root) of humanity, human lineage, "race"
Black = phenotype(tropically adapted ...limb ratio, hair, skin, etc)
African American = Africans who are citizens of the U.S.
Ethnicity = Group of humans who share common means, ways, history, etc irrespective of "race"
(a person can also be of multiple ethnic groups simultaneously)
There is no "official term" for the ethnic group of Africans who have been in the U.S. prior to it's founding via the trans atlantic. Now there are "official terms" for subgroups like creole, gullah geechee, etc. but not for the entire group.
To be clear this isn't some wild conspiratorial issue against us. It's a rather bland and by the numbers issue. There is no "official term" for the ethnic group because there was never any real need for one(other African peoples were always absorbed into the larger cultural group). Simple as that.
SIDE NOTE: this is actually a problem that people who work with dna have when you read certain papers. Because "African American" is a grab all citizenship term dna samples that use it are not sure who they are dealing with.(This problem is detailed below by Dr. Shomarka Keita in the comments/notes attached to the following academic paper)
A Note on Terminology for African Descendant Populations in North and South America
Posted by soykeita on 18 Mar 2012 at 12:27 GMT
Y Chromosome Lineages in Men of West African Descent
The phrase Legacy Afro-North American describes populations and individuals who are known or understood to be descendant of Africans who were brought to the United States via the Middle Passage, i.e. who are a legacy of the trans-Atlantic slave trade. "Legacy African American" could also be used. These phrases exclude Africans, no matter their geographical origin in Africa, who came by other means. This term would have parallels for South America and the Carribbean where there are also legacy populations (Legacy Afro-South Americans or Legacy Afro-Latinos for example).
The legacy status is deemed to have significance because of various known microevolutionary factors and likely epigenetic effects on these populations, which are socially defined differently in each country. (Remote African ancestry is not a factor in social definitions in all of the societies.)
The members of the legacy populations should not be homogenized with recent immigrants, something very important in health studies, irrespective of the definitions of census or bureacratic "race" notions. Another accurate designation for these groups/populations in the new world would include Middle Passage (or middle passage) Americans, with or without other descriptors (eg Middle Passage North Americans or Middle Passage Americans), because "Middle Passage" is restricted to those who came in this manner from tropical Africa. Other African peoples from Algeria to Zimbabwe have come to the US since the end of the great tragedy of the slave trade. They should be designated by their nationality regardless of phenotype and its assumed indicator or origin in the received racial schema and its erroneous basis (e.g.s. Algerian American). Nomenclature should accurately reflect a population or individual if the goal is to embed useful information in the terminology.....................................................African = branch of human lineage / Race (also "African" on U.S Census)
My suggestion
African American = Ethnicity (Specific "Racial" ethnic group ...similar to "americo liberian" or "maroon")
Black = Phenotype (How you look)
(Time stamped for convenience)
"Black tells you what you look like, it doesn't tell you who you are"
- John henrik clarke
"When all is said and done, dogs and slaves are named by their masters; free men name themselves."
- Mr. Richard B. Moore
The Name "Negro," It's Origin and Evil Use
1/2 Man 1/2 Hennessy
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Both terms are hollow in meaning but I'd hesistate to use just African if I were you and only cause of this:
1. It seemingly nullifies your claim to your legitimate Americaness. Y'all built this bytch therefore you shouldn't forego your earned place here. Even though obviously we are treated like second class citizens.
2. The majority of Black/African Americans are indigenous to the Americas. So in actuality y'all are mixed between various native Black American nations as well as various African nations. So I feel like calling yourself African is doing a disservice to your aboriginal identity.
Regardless, both your American and African ancestry is black/melanated so that's why I use Black American
I can see Black Americans who descend from the people that have been here coming up with a new ethnic identity when it's all said and done. A lot of people don't seem to really care for the "African American" term anymore.
The meaning of words are meant to change hence "connotations" so AA has become an ethnic term especially over the last decade
You're also misinterpreting a few things. If White folks wanted to give all Black folks in America a ridiculous amount in reparations, I don't think anyone would be opposed.
The reason why we stress AAs should be the sole beneficiaries is so that White folks don't muddy the waters by using non-AAs Black Americans as a reason NOT to give them.
You're also misinterpreting a few things. If White folks wanted to give all Black folks in America a ridiculous amount in reparations, I don't think anyone would be opposed.
The reason why we stress AAs should be the sole beneficiaries is so that White folks don't muddy the waters by using non-AAs Black Americans as a reason NOT to give them.
Self_Born7
SUN OF MAN
Both terms are hollow in meaning but I'd hesistate to use just African if I were you and only cause of this:
1. It seemingly nullifies your claim to your legitimate Americaness. Y'all built this bytch therefore you shouldn't forego your earned place here. Even though obviously we are treated like second class citizens.
2. The majority of Black/African Americans are indigenous to the Americas. So in actuality y'all are mixed between various native Black American nations as well as various African nations. So I feel like calling yourself African is doing a disservice to your aboriginal identity.
Regardless, both your American and African ancestry is black/melanated so that's why I use Black American
you are absolutely correct, how did I forget that shyt... props to you
1. Do you all ever wonder why white people rarely if every debate about their titles? (I.e. White or Caucasian)
2. Why do you guys think that they care so little about it yet we get in long debates about ours?
2. Why do you guys think that they care so little about it yet we get in long debates about ours?
That's how I feel. I hate all the terms they use for us. Black and white have meanings unto themselves. Inaccurate/non-factual racial group names aside, white represents pure, unsullied, clean, etc. while black represents unknown, scary, evil. But don't be offended by what these colors represent. Instead be offended that these people who have the audacity to call themselves white also have the nerve to call you black.
N!gger, negro, black... they're all offensive terms.
Then they try to call me an African American... Like everything is fair again. Had to throw that line in there.
You just reminded me of that shyt my older brother used to do where we'd be playing street fight and i'd be down by like 4-5 matches then when I start coming back he'd just stop playing before I catch up
On some shyt like ...we good
While I'm on the couch like, bruh
you can't just walk off like everythang cool ...we gotta finish dis game bruh
shyt used to piss me off
K.Dot
African American
Too many facts in this post
K.Dot
African American
You just reminded me of that shyt my older brother used to do where we'd be playing street fight and i'd be down by like 4-5 matches then when I start coming back he'd just stop playing before I catch up
On some shyt like ...we good
While I'm on the couch like, bruh
shyt used to piss me off
AFRICAN AMERICAN IS ALMOST LIKE LATINO. MORE LIKE A GROUP OF NATIONALITIES MORESO THAN A RACE. OUR RACE IS BLACK.
Both terms are hollow in meaning but I'd hesistate to use just African if I were you and only cause of this:
1. It seemingly nullifies your claim to your legitimate Americaness. Y'all built this bytch therefore you shouldn't forego your earned place here. Even though obviously we are treated like second class citizens.
2. The majority of Black/African Americans are indigenous to the Americas. So in actuality y'all are mixed between various native Black American nations as well as various African nations. So I feel like calling yourself African is doing a disservice to your aboriginal identity.
Regardless, both your American and African ancestry is black/melanated so that's why I use Black American
1. For me African is a racial designation, me using it has nothing to do with whether or not i'm considered a U.S. citizen. Why? Because the term African has to do with human lineage/heritage not nationality.
2. Sorry, as somebody who does a hell of alot of research when I'm talking about things; I don't follow the "Native African American" line of thought(that's as respectful as I can state it). The historical evidence(genetic, cultural, textual, etc.) is to strong against such an interpretation ...and i'll leave it at that.