Why did Kendrick play it safe with " We hate Po Po" line in Grammy performance?

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yea and he basically sold himself out cause of that. Suge wasn't in his best interests.

No fukks Given. Ya the ones who made him out to be this super revolutionary, who died fighting for the cause. when in reality, as great as he was a talent and mind. He threw all that away over bull shyt.

Kenny is more evolved. The same nikkas Pac died trying to be like, have nothing but respect for Kenny cause Kenny ain't perpetrating
 

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Brehs in here are saying "real activism" is unapologetic meanwhile the poster boy for Black activism, el-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz, spoke with a spiritual fire when speaking to Black audiences but strategically was soft spoken when debating white intellects.

Strategy...you do not give people an OUT in an attempt to discredit you. Let him cook. If you are a stronger activist...pick up the people that Kendrick's "marketing ploy" brought a little closer to the light.
 

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No fukks Given. Ya the ones who made him out to be this super revolutionary, who died fighting for the cause. when in reality, as great as he was a talent and mind. He threw all that away over bull shyt.


Pac could of been a powerful dude in hip hop if he never passed, it's like they didn't want him to succeed. he passed too soon.
 

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1. What marketing plan? Dude sold less. Got less radio play this time around.
Me madevwhite folks uncomfortable, and alotta blks are picking him apart.
Some marketing plan....

2. All those lyrics he spat on his new album, that the kids are reciting. Worked as well.
I Rather have my lil bruh recite king kunta. Than future's "i got the kkk with me"...

1. The marketing plan is him at the Grammys with the pseudo pro black stuff.

2. Agreed, nothing wrong with his music. Just the "unapologeticly black activist" talk is annoying.
 

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1. The marketing plan is him at the Grammys with the pseudo pro black stuff.

2. Agreed, nothing wrong with his music. Just the "unapologeticly black activist" talk is annoying.
Who is an un-apologetically black activist, in your opinion, breh?

Also, what music artists, in your opinion, are unapologetically black?
 

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So now 'pro-black' is a marketable gimmick...

"b-b-b-but they push buffoonery and c00nish music to us to keep us stupid, brehs... nothing thought provoking, just getting drunk and high and sex""

Now a major label artist does and you question its authenticity almost immediately.

:hula:
 

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"Real" activism?

Activism is defined as a vigorous campaign to bring about political or social change. Extrinsic points are irrelevant.
His campaign isn't vigorous if he's editing his words in order to pander to the opposition.

[quoteSam Cooke, in making a Change is Going to Come, wanted to bring a level of consciousness to his audience and to his music...however, he also wanted to sell albums. make money and fukk groupies. What I'm saying is... Moving the "socially conscious ball" is of paramount importance.
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Different times, not a real comparisons

But one thing for sure is, Sam cook wasn't in interviews talking about how black people need to "respect themselves" in order to combat oppression.

The fact that "We hate po-po" was modified from the performance makes it that much harder for "institutonal racism" sympathizers to find an easy intellectual out to critique the performance.
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thats called being safe. His performance and his invitation to the Grammys was more important than his activism.

The performance was still powerful and at the end of the day...Kendrick isn't Shabazz... Kendrick has his lane and has his position... drawing even one more person closer to a higher social intellect is "real activism."
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What Kendrick is doing isn't brining people higher to social intellect. It's the most basic cliche "activism" possible. That's why suite people still love him.

His activism is reduced to easy buzzwords/sayings that the establishment has been ok with for years.

"We don't die we multiply"

"We gone be alright"

Etc etc.

All safe shyt that makes cacs comfortable.

But when it comes to actually making a stand it's "black people need to respect themselves"

Had no problem saying that, but can't say "we hate the police for killing us":what:

Genuine activism makes the opposition mad. They don't give you awards for it.


That's all it is breh? Really?

I wonder where you'd be on the political spectrum in the 70's when Marvin Gaye released his first conscious album "What's Goin' On".
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Different times. Safe speech was maybe enough then. 40 years later of the same safes speech, something's gotta change.
 
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His campaign isn't vigorous if he's editing his words in order to pander to the opposition.


Different times, not a real comparisons

But one thing for sure is, Sam cook wasn't in interviews talking about how black people need to "respect themselves" in order to combat oppression.

thats called being safe. His performance and his invitation to the Grammys was more important than his activism.


What Kendrick is doing isn't brining people higher to social intellect. It's the most basic cliche "activism" possible. That's why suite people still love him.

His activism is reduced to easy buzzwords/sayings that the establishment has been ok with for years.

"We don't die we multiply"

"We gone be alright"

Etc etc.

All safe shyt that makes cacs comfortable.

But when it comes to actually making a stand it's "black people need to respect themselves"

Had no problem saying that, but can't say "we hate the police for killing us":what:

Genuine activism makes the opposition mad. They don't give you awards for it.


[quoteThat's all it is breh? Really?

I wonder where you'd be on the political spectrum in the 70's when Marvin Gaye released his first conscious album "What's Goin' On".
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Different times. Safe speech was maybe enough then. 40 years later of the same safes speech, something's gotta change.

For all those saying he omitted that rhyme because he's scared...the last song ('Untitled 3' some are calling it) is more "dangerous" than hatred of police:

"It's been a week already
Feeling weak already
Got me at peak, possibility of what could be
Situation is heavy, I got the prunes
On February twenty sixth I lost my life too
It's like I'm here in a dark dream
Nightmare, hear screams recorded
Say that it sounds distorted but they know who it was
That was me yelling for help when he drowned in his blood

Why didn't he defend himself? Why couldn't he throw a punch?
And for our community do you know what this does?
Add to a trail of hatred
Twenty twelve was taken from the world to see
Set us back another four-hundred years
This is modern day slavery
The reason why I'm by your house
You threw your briefcase all on the couch
I plan on creeping through your damn door and blowing out
Every piece of your brain
'Til your spine drip to your arm
Cut off the engine then sped off in a Wraith
"

He just rapped about running up in white folks houses and blowing their brains out

:patrice:

He a coward tho brehs

That's safe?
 

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Brehs in here are saying "real activism" is unapologetic meanwhile the poster boy for Black activism, el-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz, spoke with a spiritual fire when speaking to Black audiences but strategically was soft spoken when debating white intellects.

Strategy...you do not give people an OUT in an attempt to discredit you. Let him cook. If you are a stronger activist...pick up the people that Kendrick's "marketing ploy" brought a little closer to the light.
I know you can't be comparing Kendrick Lamar to Malcolm X
 

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Oh my fukking god yo...



I thought you may have but you didn't specifically, for that I apologize.

But as you can see he's seemingly the standard for the all around super nikka "conscious rapper" and he did the same "what about black on black crime" bit in even more depth and zeal than Kendrick did. I saw a gang of people go on and on about his "black on black crime" comments talking about how they thought he was the one and HE AIN'T 2PAC when the truth is Pac was saying the same shyt.

"IT AIN'T THEM THAT'S KNOCKING US OFF, IT'S US THAT'S KNOCKING US OFF. USE YOUR BRAIN, USE YOUR BRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!"

Also that's a perfectly valid question/argument to make, especially from someone who grew up around gang culture. You making it seem like he said it to appease white folk when the truth is addressing systemic Racism ain't gonna turn back the clock...getting nikkas to stop pulling triggers on each other should take priority over trying to get racists whites to act accordingly. You seem like an intelligent cat but if you think you can reduce him adding that perspective to that song to him trying to stay in good grace rather than have a real conversation with his listeners...I may be overestimating your intelligence.

Hypothetically: If your village is rampant with internal conflict and simultaneously it's being seiged by a neighboring tribe what situation do you handle first? The internal or external?
 

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So now 'pro-black' is a marketable gimmick...

"b-b-b-but they push buffoonery and c00nish music to us to keep us stupid, brehs... nothing thought provoking, just getting drunk and high and sex""

Now a major label artist does and you question its authenticity almost immediately.

:hula:
He made a pro black album for personal gain after the caclemore shyt, it's not genuine at all
 
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