Why aren't people offended when media calls Obama the first black president?

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Are we really saying anyone that looks black, is black no matter what? So if Obama, who is mixed, could pass for white, would he be black?
 

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Are we really saying anyone that looks black, is black no matter what? So if Obama, who is mixed, could pass for white, would he be black?

like I alluded to in my first post (everybody is mixed), there is no real definition of 'black' except in a social and personal context. TUH approximates a good rule by just going by how he describes himself
 

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like I alluded to in my first post (everybody is mixed), there is no real definition of 'black' except in a social and personal context. TUH approximates a good rule by just going by how he describes himself

So Clinton is the first black president? Since a lot of people socially claim it.:comeon:

The problem with the "everybody is mixed" argument is it not realistic to race relations of today. You completely understand what I am saying, so why pull the "everybody is mixed" card.

I am sure his mother and grandmother who he has stated "he loves dearly" would love for him to speak on the other half of his heritage. Nothing wrong with it.
 

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So Clinton is the first black president? Since a lot of people socially claim it.:comeon:

The problem with the "everybody is mixed" argument is it not realistic to race relations of today. You completely understand what I am saying, so why pull the "everybody is mixed" card.

I am sure his mother and grandmother who he has stated "he loves dearly" would love for him to speak on the other half of his heritage. Nothing wrong with it.

you have your fathers last name even though you're just as much a product of your mother. Being mixed is being black in America.
 

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So when black folk (mostly women) say "Oh dat girl ain't black she is mixed" even though she is half-black, and we agree, that is OK? But, when it comes to Obama he is our black president. You don't see anything wrong with that?

It seems the definition of what 'black' is varies from person-to-person.
who said i agree?
in addition. when that girl is mixed. african american mother, white daddy. thats mixed. thats how we define mixed.

a person called an african america usually = someone of african slave ancestory + a hint if white slave master. thats what a lot of times makes up AFRICAN AMERICAN.

we are mixed as well. it just goes further back.



obama is as AFRICAN american as it gets. he's literally an AFRICAN AMERICAN. do you not understand this? his dad was african and we know from where. his mother was american.

it doesnt get any more AFRICAN AMERICAN then that folks.
 

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who said i agree?
in addition. when that girl is mixed. african american mother, white daddy. thats mixed. thats how we define mixed.

a person called an african america usually = someone of african slave ancestory + a hint if white slave master. thats what a lot of times makes up AFRICAN AMERICAN.

we are mixed as well. it just goes further back.



obama is as AFRICAN american as it gets. he's literally an AFRICAN AMERICAN. do you not understand this? his dad was african and we know from where. his mother was american.

it doesnt get any more AFRICAN AMERICAN then that folks.

Mixed = Black dad + White mom.....not White dad + Black mom?

:mindblown: Where are you getting your definitions from?

obama is as AFRICAN american as it gets. he's literally an AFRICAN AMERICAN. do you not understand this? his dad was african and we know from where. his mother was american.

:heh: Are you kidding me bruh?



The man is mixed. Just admit it bruh. He is the first mixed president, but black folk claim him because he looks black.
 

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The man is mixed. Just admit it bruh. He is the first mixed president, but black folk claim him because he looks black.

What's the clear dividing line between mixed and black though? You yourself say, The problem with the "everybody is mixed" argument is it not realistic to race relations of today. But the only objective, non social way to describe race is that it doesn't mean anything cause everybody is mixed. Beyond that black, mixed, etc is subjective and dependent on "relations" between identity groups
 

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Mixed = Black dad + White mom.....not White dad + Black mom?

:mindblown: Where are you getting your definitions from?



:heh: Are you kidding me bruh?



The man is mixed. Just admit it bruh. He is the first mixed president, but black folk claim him because he looks black.
AFRICAN=DADDY is from AFRICA
AMERICAN= Mother is from AMERICA

AFRICAN AMERICAN

what part of that dont you understand? he's more african american then any of us black folks.
 

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What's the clear dividing line between mixed and black though?

I dunno.... Black dad + Black Mom = Black

*waits for the "we are all black" response"

AFRICAN=DADDY is from AFRICA
AMERICAN= Mother is from AMERICA

AFRICAN AMERICAN

what part of that dont you understand? he's more african american then any of us black folks.

:stopitslime:So we are playing the semantics game?
 

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That nikka is black, because if he was robbing someone and a :merchant: saw him they would call the police and say, "a black man was robbing someone" END OF STORY!

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Black people allowing white people to categorize them? Where have I seen that before? "You are a slave." "You are a n*gger." "You are 3/5ths of a man." "You are a colored." "You are a negro."

Don't let some racist white man set the standard for what you are.
 

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Black people allowing white people to categorize them? Where have I seen that before? "You are a slave." "You are a n*gger." "You are 3/5ths of a man." "You are a colored." "You are a negro."

Don't let some racist white man set the standard for what you are.

I am shocked black people let the "First Black President" stuff slide, but I do understand it. We never expected anyone of darker skin to make it to the White House, so we just accept it.
 
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