Why aren't Jamaican Dancehall artists blowing up like spanish reggaeton artists have the past year?

[DonRe]

I listen to dancehall and Spanish trap/ reggaeton heavy. Dancehall is dope but just
More people around the world consume Spanish music becuase the language is universal. While
If you depend on Africans from Kenya to understand vybz, doubt it will happen.

 

[AB Ziggy]

I listen to dancehall and Spanish trap/ reggaeton heavy. Dancehall is dope but just
More people around the world consume Spanish music becuase the language is universal. While
If you depend on Africans from Kenya to understand vybz, doubt it will happen.

That's not the reason why. Dancehall is actually quite popular in Africa.

 

[DonRe]

That's not the reason why. Dancehall is actually quite popular in Africa.

Then I stand corrected. I thought language was a major factor in this comparison. Had no idea.

 

[BigMan]

Then I stand corrected. I thought language was a major factor in this comparison. Had no idea.

language is only a factor in the US. people who don't know patois in europe, latin america, and africa have no problem with listening to dancehall but Americans who don't know patois generally don't like it. Americans generally don't care efor anything not in English but since there is such a huge spanish speaking population in the US, theres a huge market that doesn't require the English only population of the us to be involved. for example, despasito was already a multinational hit throughout latin america and the us latin charts. they recorded an english language version to go into the us market but turns out they didn't need to release it.

 

[frush11]

it's too raw

they don't polish nothing for pop consumption

if you ain't in tune you might not be able to really catch the vibe

they need to step up the production/studio values and get the visual aesthetics up to par

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Got a point

 

[Premeditated]

shyt is classic but I wouldn't classify that as dance hall

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Then I stand corrected. I thought language was a major factor in this comparison. Had no idea.

I don't think the language factor is real even in America. It's basically a matter of population numbers (latinos vs west indians) and all latinos hopping on what's hot in the latin market (nuyoricans and to a lesser extent domincians setting the trends while the rest of latin america follows. Like 70% of the latinos in the USA are mexican but mexican music ain't popping. Ricans and Domincians have way smaller numbers but their music is the most connected to the general world of pop/urban music so the entire latin america follows those trends) vs "black" people globally mainly rocking to the music within their own culture (aframs listening to hiphop-r&B vs west indians with dancehall/soca vs africans with afrobeats)

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Reggaeton? Popular? Where? Maybe early 2000s NYC or maybe in Latin America and among Latinos.... Other than that where?

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Your region is a negligible market so your Ignorance is meaningless
You’re embarassing yourself, reggaeton and popular spanish language music are getting hundreds of millions of views and these artists are touring worldwide

this is ether served cold

 

[Bawon Samedi]

As for Dancehall... Neither the artists nor the stans wanna think outside the box when it comes to the genre. Which is why it has been stagnate. Every Dancehall listener I talk to ALWAYS talks about Vybz Kartel.

 

[BigMan]

As for Dancehall... Neither the artists nor the stans wanna think outside the box when it comes to the genre. Which is why it has been stagnate. Every Dancehall listener I talk to ALWAYS talks about Vybz Kartel.

he's the last innovator in dancehall....there's new artists i like but their whole styles come from kartel.....the production has also really stagnated in dancehall...at this point there's no difference between Jamaican dancehall and American pop/hip hop

Reggaeton? Popular? Where? Maybe early 2000s NYC or maybe in Latin America and among Latinos.... Other than that where?

reggaeton is mostly popular in Spanish speaking communities.....there's about a billion of them worldwide. also its popular in the nonSpanish speaking Caribbean.....even in the English Speaking Caribbean spanish music is somewhat popular when they collab with English speaking artists

also a Jamaican named Rvssian who worked with Kartel is behind a lot of these Spanish Trap hits like Krippy Kush. he moved to Miami and started working with Ricans and Colombians

 

[IllmaticDelta]

he's the last innovator in dancehall....there's new artists i like but their whole styles come from kartel.....the production has also really stagnated in dancehall...at this point there's no difference between Jamaican dancehall and American pop/hip hop

I haven't noticed that many jamaican dancehall songs that sound like the current hiphop. If so, they would be riding/benefiting off the trap wave like the current reggaeton, edm and modern grime did/does.

 

[BigMan]

I haven't noticed that many jamaican dancehall songs that sound like the current hiphop. If so, they would be riding/benefiting off the trap wave like the current reggaeton, edm and modern grime did/does.

you'll hear a lot of artistes deejaying over hip hop instrumentals now



this is an example of a Jamaican artiste over a American hiphop/pop type track. nothing dancehall about this type of song

 

[BigMan]

 

[BigMan]

another example