Why are white rap fans so impressed with rapping fast?

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A lot of white people have trouble grasping the soul of hip-hop so they place a lot more emphasis on its technical aspect. Not saying it's a negative or anything, just my observation.

So accurate.

To add my own observations:

Most of those type of white folks seem to look down on hip hop as a whole. If asked about it, they usually sum the whole genre up in dismissive terms like "It's just some guy talking about his money, and his cars, and how many girls he's getting," or "It's just making words rhyme. I can do that." Usually followed by them spitting a few struggle bars with an exaggerated "UHHH" thrown in here and there. For those speed rappers, they see it as something they can't do, and have a stronger sense of appreciation for it.

This perfectly sums it up I think

I was gonna say something about the lack of soul but you took it a step further by explaining the focus on the technical aspects. It's like we can appreciate the talent in the artform but can't feel the music so we focus on what we can understand which is the technical structure of the raps.

That said, why aren't rappers like Black Thought more loved by white fans? Is it because he has an actually flow to his technical brilliance as opposed to just being really really fast at rapping a lot of words?

They don't follow Black Thought like that for a couple of reasons. One is that his style is something most appreciated by people that are deep into hip hop. The most supportive Black Thought fan is the type of person that would shyt on nearly all modern hip hop, and then go on a lengthy diatribe about the difference between a rapper and a MC. I don't think I've ever heard a song he was on where he wasn't in the pocket, you never hear songs where it's clear that multiple lines were punched in, or where he sounds bored, or anything like that. The downside is that for a lot of people, it sounds like he's using the same flow and delivery on every song, so for them, the most exciting part of the song is the backing music.

Also, his subject matter and style isn't super extravagant in most cases. So in order to get the most out of the track, you probably need to pay attention to what he's saying. For alot of those folks, that's never going to happen. I know people that have gone out of their way to be able to recite shyt like Rap God, but still don't get some of the punchlines, or stuff like that, because they don't care. Same thing happening here, I think.
 

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A lot of white people have trouble grasping the soul of hip-hop so they place a lot more emphasis on its technical aspect. Not saying it's a negative or anything, just my observation.

Pretty much this , kinda like analytics in the NBA. they cant quite match the soul and the pain many of the black rappers go through so they try to over emphasize multis,rhymes schemes etc which some white rappers excel at.

Technique matters but if what ur saying dont connect eventually the :krs: factor turns to :ld:

another example is renegade. eminem TECHNICALLY had a better verse since his delivery etc was damn near textbook perfect. but what jay was saying alot of us could relate to some or all of what he said. :yeshrug:
 

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:francis:If it's not fast rapping it's the following:

  • Demonic Horrorcore shyt
  • Gangsta rap from 92-97
  • Broke bitter neckbeard looking underground rappers
  • MF DOOM stans
  • Wu Tang Clan dikk riders
  • Canibus super spiritual miracle ass rappers
If it's not the following bulletpoints, they don't fukk with it. Hence the fact that rappers coming up (bragging raps ala Cash Money)<<<<<real hip hop. I find it funny most of those type of white fans didn't check for Untitled Unmastered:mjpls:, but big up DAMN:mjpls:
 
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rappers been rapping about that forever tho. You saying Scarface is a weird emo rapper?

Here's a difference though:

Exhibit A:


Scarface was stating the woes in the world and how that can wear on the human spirit. Something that truly hit home on so many levels, versus this song:


No rhyme or reason to the lyrics due to the chorus strongly encouraging suicide:camby:. Scarface focuses on the reason why suicide seems like the only solution in a fukk up situation. These rappers nowadays sell the emo shyt for profit, and not protest.
 

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This perfectly sums it up I think

I was gonna say something about the lack of soul but you took it a step further by explaining the focus on the technical aspects. It's like we can appreciate the talent in the artform but can't feel the music so we focus on what we can understand which is the technical structure of the raps.

That said, why aren't rappers like Black Thought more loved by white fans? Is it because he has an actually flow to his technical brilliance as opposed to just being really really fast at rapping a lot of words?
Kinda related but when black thought was trending for his freestyle some white people just saw the words “black thought ” and got triggered lmao
 

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This perfectly sums it up I think

I was gonna say something about the lack of soul but you took it a step further by explaining the focus on the technical aspects. It's like we can appreciate the talent in the artform but can't feel the music so we focus on what we can understand which is the technical structure of the raps.

That said, why aren't rappers like Black Thought more loved by white fans? Is it because he has an actually flow to his technical brilliance as opposed to just being really really fast at rapping a lot of words?

:francis:More so the image of him doing Jimmy Fallon with The Roots (lolz can't take him seriously because money lolzollzolz) along with his lyrical content from the days of The Roots (uplifting lyrics,true to self, production not relatable to the soulless Eminem shyt). I remember when "You Got Me" came out and black folks going:wow::banderas:, while the white kids at my school were checking for Slim Shady, Limp Bizkit, etc). Bottom line, different kind of jelly to the peanut butter sandwich that most white folks tend to eat in hip hop:ld:
 

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It seems like they can care less about content a lot of the times. Back in the day when it was the "dusty back pack rappers" at least they had content that was dope, at least in my eyes. Now they're just fudging a bunch of words together and rambling really fast. The skill level for that isn't as high as making a verse that is relatable, or is actually saying something. It's like Rise said

Enormous daughters’ quarters shorter than your chlorophyll pills
Y’all don’t really listen to lyrics if y’all thought that was ill

But they're saying it a lot faster and it's just meh. Rap God was trash.
 

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That's how these white kids go viral, this the formula: Rhyme about something emo, do it with a fast flow, put "this rapper killed so and so popular beat" with some :ohhh: emojis and there you have it, they blow up on the internet :mjlol:
 

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Rapping fast doesn't make you a better rapper, but it does generally show that you are trying to draw more attention to your rap, than the backdrop. There's a time and place for it and only simpletons would think that's the only way to a dope rapper to flex.

A lot of white people have trouble grasping the soul of hip-hop so they place a lot more emphasis on its technical aspect. Not saying it's a negative or anything, just my observation.

Some of the best rappers in the world don't even rap to music so while they are certainly intertwined, rap as an artform has a life independent from the music.

A lot of white people, especially within the last two generations have stereotypically been more into rap more so than the music. In the same way that black kids are stereotypically seen as having made a noticeable shift away from caring about lyrics/lyricism in favor of "vibes" within that same time frame. Whether you wanna argue that's just because we are more musically inclined or not, there was a time period where white folks had to follow our lead. What really changed was the internet giving white folks enough options to champion artists like Tech N9ne, and MF Doom.

They're brilliant MC's, but they achieved cult status without having to appeal to mainstream black radio or the "streets". It's not that it's the only type of rapper white people are into, it's that the ones that are, are loud about it and try to use the fact that they're into someone people see as obscure as a means of validation.

It's a double edged sword, because I feel like it's a beautiful thing for someone like Tech, who's been in the game for an eternity to find an audience. But that same mechanism is the same way someone like Logic or G-Eazy can put out a gold record that you never heard.
 
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I think white people like the technicality and skill it takes to rap fast because that's something they can latch onto quickly as hip hop listeners

They don't really understand anything outside of that because they don't care to explore anything outside of that, to understand Kendrick you need to listen to a whole album, to understand Outkast you need to listen to an album, to understand Cole you need to hear a whole album

They don't rap fast, white boys can't latch onto that gimmick, they have to sit their ass down and listen to the backstory, listen to black thoughts and black emotions, that's work for a casual listener
All of these dudes have white fanbases though...
 
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