Why are hip hop fans so easily impressed by corny lyrics?

[BlackZilla]

I think Finesse fathered L's style, but L took the ball and ran w/ it. Good call on the sprinkling of them. At least back the punchlines had flow, more lyrics per track, now they're just dropped for the sake of dropping them.

Yeah, most definitely. L was Finnesse's son in rap for sure. Big L did improve on Finnesse's punchline style of rap and added his own razor sharp flow and delivery and gangsta/horrorcore subject matter, as opposed to Finnesse's more braggadocious/flossing.

I always saw Big L as a dark/evil Lord Finnesse lol. You know, like what Evil Ryu is to Ryu from Street Fighter lol

 

[mikishere]

this nikka has an picture of a gucci mane xxl cover talkin about corny lyrics.. fukk outta here

 

[Izanami]

I blame rappers like Wayne and Papoose.

Pap is irrelevant


I mainly blame Wayne and all the industry elite rappers/producers (Nas, Jay, Em,Ye,premo,etc.) who co-signed him. When Drought 3 started to bubble and C3 put him on a national scale. nikkas rhymes is filled with corny wack and far from witty punchlines. It got to the point were on CIV it sound like he wasnt even trying but people still give him props. Easily the most overrated and non deserving of praise rapper in the history of the genre. fukking trash raps.

 

[Still Benefited]

we tryin to get slick and dis Big L now?

Its a diss to people that think its hot moreso than him....maybe its like most punchlines u hear now from bck in the day you cringe at,but this one makes me more than most....but it always pops up as one of the goat punchlines,maybe old heads just ain't know no better

 

[markp]

Now don't get me wrong, I know Pac's shyt had depth... but he's your example of someone who made all "deep" shyt all the time?

Yeah man, you might just be thinkin' a lil' too hard about this shyt... there's far worse things in rap to be concerned with than how "real" a line is. You'd have to discredit a lot of shyt if all rap lyrics had to be steeped in truth. I'm sure there's some gangsta shyt you like, and you already know most of them nikkas haven't and wouldn't do half the shyt they say in those songs... so does that then preclude those songs from being good?

Lyrics don't have to be steeped in truth. But rappers need to make music for authentic geniune down to earth reasons. The question I ask myself when I listen to gangsta shyt is WHY did the rapper make this track? Was the rapper feeling creative or having fun? Then its okay with me. Or was the rapper just working on his street cred (Drake)? Or did he do the track just because he couldn't think of anything else to rap about, so here goes yet another song about how cheap you got coke for, with a bunch of metaphors and shyt to make it "lyrical". I feel like as a fan you can tell. And if it's the latter I can't listen to it.

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

Corny punchlines metaphors puns and double entendres. Why are hip hop fans so easily impressed by this shyt.

"I keep one eye open like CBS"

If someone said a line like this in real life it would be like, ok i get it. A reference to the CBS logo. Kind of random and very corny but I'll let it slide. But Jay-Z raps it and fans lose their mind over it. People still talk about this line 16 years later like it's some kind of amazing lyricism.

Pusha T says "I'm a genius like Ray". See, it's a double meaning. Because he's not only talking about Ray Charles. He's talking about Raekwon too. Wow thats fukking crafty! A lot of people have the same the name, this isn't clever at all. How does tacky lyricism like this get so distinguished by fans? Do fans just have shytty taste or what?

when mac miller going to the breakfast club but cant spit a decent rhyme live on the radio, but made approximately, 8,000,000 from touring...hey
save up and live off that.

 

[markp]

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[Insensitive]

i've made a thread about it long time ago and none of you fukks admitted Im right, all of you went into some dumb ass "captain save hiphop" mode







hip hop is cornball music, producers who make beats keep it relevant because it sounds good in the club or whip, nobody cares about the lyrics, everything has been said in these 30 years, its a childish music for idiots, anyone taking it seriously needs to burn in heavy fire

Top Five Worst Poster OF All Time.

This is thread is ironic coming from a gucci fan.

Ok stop getting upset I was just using the Can I Live line as an example. It's a good song it's just the one line thats corny...

stepped it up another level, meditated like a buddhist
Recruited lieutenants with ludicrous, dreams of
gettin cream let's do this, it gets tedious
So I keep one eye open like, C-B-S - Jay-Z


The thing about lyricism is it's rarely about one single line, that line was prefaced by all of that, and the rest of that verse,
and the other two that completed the song.
He was "keeping one eye open like C-B-S" because he realized as explained earlier in the song
he was getting to the point in his career where he'd have to worry about safety.
All of this pertaining to the songs story, I'm not claiming it's fact or anything, anyways when you listen
to Hip Hop you have to put all the lines together, listening to dudes like Nas and Jay is different than listening to
Wayne throw punchline after punchline together, one style is meant to be seen as a body of work (The verse) while the another
is meant to have pieces than can stand on their own (The Line).

With that said it was far from corny, the line had a point in the song, it wasn't just thrown in their to sound dope.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

I remember when nikkas was gassed at Wayne saying: "Dear Mr. Toilet, I'm the shyt"

 

[markp]

Top Five Worst Poster OF All Time.

This is thread is ironic coming from a gucci fan.



stepped it up another level, meditated like a buddhist
Recruited lieutenants with ludicrous, dreams of
gettin cream let's do this, it gets tedious
So I keep one eye open like, C-B-S - Jay-Z


The thing about lyricism is it's rarely about one single line, that line was prefaced by all of that, and the rest of that verse,
and the other two that completed the song.
He was "keeping one eye open like C-B-S" because he realized as explained earlier in the song
he was getting to the point in his career where he'd have to worry about safety.
All of this pertaining to the songs story, I'm not claiming it's fact or anything, anyways when you listen
to Hip Hop you have to put all the lines together, listening to dudes like Nas and Jay is different than listening to
Wayne throw punchline after punchline together, one style is meant to be seen as a body of work (The verse) while the another
is meant to have pieces than can stand on their own (The Line).

With that said it was far from corny, the line had a point in the song, it wasn't just thrown in their to sound dope.

Dont get so caught up on that one example, read the other posts I made in this thread. The Jay line is slightly corny ... the way he randomly references the logo of a corporation. Sounds forced to me but I can look past it because the rest of the song is good and it fits the theme of the song. The problem is rappers take lines like the CBS one and make whole songs and careers out of metaphors like that (its easy to point the finger at the clipse for this but they aren't the only ones doing it)... throwing all these complex metaphors about being a genius like ray/rae and touching black keys/kis.

Good lyrics don't tell you, they show you. These punchline rappers have perfected the art of TELLING you... they tell, tel,l tell... in an ever so slick way with punchlines and double entendres... but theres really no substance too it. It just sounds labored and forced and uncreative

 

[wtfyomom]

Nah fuk that nikka,that Jay line is cold for its time and in its context.....now sumbody tell me bout this "like beavis I get nuthin but head" line....one of the corniest shyts I ever heard any era...on the level of one of those made up Papoose lines...this a obvious Jay hate thread

actually no Big L's line is way more clever

 

[Balan]

Nah fuk that nikka,that Jay line is cold for its time and in its context.....now sumbody tell me bout this "like beavis I get nuthin but head" line....one of the corniest shyts I ever heard any era...on the level of one of those made up Papoose lines...this a obvious Jay hate thread

Exactly. How many times are people gonna hate the GOAT?

 

[StraxStrax]

the problem is...is that there was much more creativity than today, there are still songs that are considered classic, people used to rhyme, creative beats, such as dj premier etc, music videos were not about bling and women.

 

[StraxStrax]

The oldness in this thread is sky high

 

[markp]

You jay fans are so insecure...everything I wrote in this thread and all you take away from it is "jay hate" because I criticized your "goat"