Why are BothSiders so happy Trump won and Kamala lost?

[Artfull Dodger]

As a black man, I don't give a fukk about illegal immigrants. This ain't our country and never will be. We tryna stack claim like we're wanted here and have a say. Naw we the bottom of the totem pole and it's where they want us to be.

Your last point could be the reason why some black folk do mind the influx of immigrants

 

[Uachet]

Same folks who say shyt like this will also say Obama didn't do shyt for black people. For some reason some in our community only care about the black community when it comes to illegal immigrants. Thats the issue they speak on, over healthcare, education, civil rights, voting rights, etc etc. Its silence when those things are brought up but for some reason, the issue that republicans are stronger on is the one they care about the plight of black people in relation too. Interesting shyt

That is why I linked the actual congressional study because I knew you would return with an absolutely disingenuous refrain. You tried to make it seem like you had a pro-Black reason for your position, but you are not pro-Black at all. So, I exposed the true you.

 

[Still Benefited]

-There's no "Y'all" & I didn't say bothsiders & maga are the same. I literally said I'm an independent & I've said plenty times the two party system should be thrown in the bushes. Do you know how fukking stupid your reply is? What dem do you think you're talking to?

-For the record, you're not necessary. If trump does what he wants you were actually detrimental.

I thought you were a schill attempting to make a point. Turns out you are just stupid and wrong.

"An independent voter, often also called an unaffiliated voter or non-affiliated voter in the United States, is a voter who does not align themselves with a political party"


So saying #Bothsides and independents arent the same is incorrect. Bothsides can be the same as an independent voter. Or a bothsider can also be like myself,someone who wants to vote for Democrats but needs a tangible reason.
But is completely unwilling to vote for Republicans. Im no different than Dems who refused to vote due to the Palestine issue in protest. Then you have #BothSiders who are open to voting Republican for whatever reason. They would absolutely be the same as independents.


This might be alot for your peabrain to grasp. But as a faction,we consist of complex figures


Detrimental is in the eye of the beholder. Your shortsighted and fearful,of course you arent a visionary

 

[Born2BKing]

That is why I linked the actual congressional study because I knew you would return with an absolutely disingenuous refrain. You tried to make it seem like you had a pro-Black reason for your position, but you are not pro-Black at all. So, I exposed the true you.

Man stop, just because we disagree on the immigrants working impact lower level jobs have on the black community, doesn't mean I'm not pro black. Why the fukk you think I'm a democrat? Oh lemme guess, I'm a brainwashed dumb sheep.

 

[Uachet]

Man stop, just because we disagree on the immigrants working impact lower level jobs have on the black community, doesn't mean I'm not pro black. Why the fukk you think I'm a democrat? Oh lemme guess, I'm a brainwashed dumb sheep.

Here you go again. I told you it is fine that you have your position, but I also pointed out that your position is not a Pro-Black stance. It is in fact a pseudo (false) Pro-Black stance trying to obscure your real reason why you are perfectly fine with illegals. You have not taken that position based on how it actually harms Black people. You could not care less but wanted to make it seem like you were standing strong in Blackness.

You can just admit the truth, and state you don't care about illegal immigration without trying to make it based on anything about you being a Black man.

 

[Born2BKing]

Here you go again. I told you it is fine that you have your position, but I also pointed out that your position is not a Pro-Black stance. It is in fact a pseudo (false) Pro-Black stance trying to obscure your real reason why you are perfectly fine with illegals. You have not taken that position based on how it actually harms Black people. You could not care less but wanted to make it seem like you were standing strong in Blackness.

You can just admit the truth, and state you don't care about illegal immigration without trying to make it based on anything about you being a Black man.

I don't draw the correlation between illegals and the black community, hence why I don't put my thought into that "issue".

 

[ThatTruth777]

The republicans and the far right won, they control all levels of government, they control the judiciary and the trump personally put 3 justices on the court, yet they will still find a way to talk about kamala harris or biden to distract from the people about to gain power, there is no more excuses or fall guy anymore

Voter negligence

 

[AllHolosEve]

I thought you were a schill attempting to make a point. Turns out you are just stupid and wrong.
"An independent voter, often also called an unaffiliated voter or non-affiliated voter in the United States, is a voter who does not align themselves with a political party"
So saying #Bothsides and independents arent the same is incorrect. Bothsides can be the same as an independent voter. Or a bothsider can also be like myself,someone who wants to vote for Democrats but needs a tangible reason.
But is completely unwilling to vote for Republicans. Im no different than Dems who refused to vote due to the Palestine issue in protest. Then you have #BothSiders who are open to voting Republican for whatever reason. They would absolutely be the same as independents.
This might be alot for your peabrain to grasp. But as a faction,we consist of complex figures
Detrimental is in the eye of the beholder. Your shortsighted and fearful,of course you arent a visionary

-So you respond with something even stupider that the last stupid shyt.

-First you say bothsiders ARE the same as independent, then you say they CAN be the same as independent, then you bring up wanting tangibles which is NOT the same independent. You clearly don't know what the fukk you're talking about so I'll say it slow. Independents CAN be bothsides, but you're not bothsides BECAUSE you're an independent.

-Detrimental is a word in the English language with a definition. Maybe your stupid ass should look it up.

 

[alpo]

How long you gonna say this?

The selections over again why are we acting like anyone actually gives a fukk?

#slide4kamala

 

[MrLogic]

I'm glad she didn't win so she wouldn't be the face of the fall of USA
regardless what she is they would label that failure on all black people because whoever got in office was going to be the one to go to war with iran for israel's bytch ass

she dodge a bullet


now usa fail can be on maga time they will get the blame

it's the only way to destroy that movement for good

they have to fail on a global stage
it all as to come to a head

 

[Born2BKing]

#slide4kamala

 

[Worthless Loser]

They don't really care than Trump is going to burn down the country for 4 years. It's more important for them to laugh at Harris for losing the election. It's pretty petty, but its all about feelings.

 

[Wiseborn]

I was going in on both sides and trump supporters on this site the entire election. But I just don’t have the energy to chastise black people about this shyt no more. Black men and women are the only ones who voted for Kamala by majority( including me). We shouldn’t be disingenuous and just act like everyone who voted for him that are black, did it cuz they expecting a check or super conservative or hate women. My uncle voted for trump. Completely disagreed.

But his reasoning is that he has a lawn company as a manual laborer… and in his community, That area the illegals are getting most of that work because they undercut with extremely low prices. Again didn’t say I agree. But I’m not calling him dumb. He voted for trump because immigration is his biggest concern because he is directly competing with illegals. End of day money matters the most to Americans and there are a lot of people angry at the current president and vice president because pockets are flat and they j .Gotta stop insulting each others intellect just cuz we disagree or it doesn’t apply to us. I’m a white collar worker… I’m not as concerned with immigration .. I’m not Christian, so I am pro choice.

I think Christianity is fictional and ridiculous. But if someone is a strict Christian, that shyt can matter to them more than trump being a bigot . I have never voted republican , before somebody try to act like I am defending trump. I can’t stand him, but outside of the obvious bigots (whether racist or sexist) we all have different needs and things we vote for.

I’m a veteran and pay no education loans. All forgiven. I care about free education and surely support the fukk out of it, but I don’t care as much to where it’s my primary voting reason, because my kids go to school free too. But if you not a disabled veteran and went to college that might be your number one concern and you might not have the money to send your kids to school and don’t want them accumulating debt from large loans. People usually vote for that one thing that matters the most to them. No one is really voting on the environment and that concerned about fracking..But I struggling with these high ass groceries and the economy is my primary concern and I placed my personal faith in the democrats over the republicans to solve this. Again just pointing out we all have things that matter to us more . It’s extremely easy to just write people off as stupid and again I’m admitting I’m wrong in doing that as well in the past. Black people supported Kamala the most and unfortunately she just lost. And she was never a likable candidate. She ran for president before and she didn’t come close to getting the dem nod . Like people didn’t fukk with her or Booker. They numbers were atrocious

Nobody can argue with your uncle
He voted his interest

The only thing Ill say is at the end of day hes fighting a losing battle no one pays for something they can get cheaper

 

[Wiseborn]

That is your choice, but you seem to not also care about the bulk of Black people either with this position you have taken. The majority of Black people are in in the low to no-skilled worker area of the economy. That means they have to compete with those illegals coming into the country for jobs, funding, resources, and housing. If you look at Chicago in particular, you will see what our brothers and sisters are saying about the situation as it pertains to them and their neighborhoods.

So in the end, it affects our people. I have placed on this website studies shown in Congress that prove it affects our people the most too. You can do a search on this forum for it. So if as a Black man you do not care about illegals, it shows you do not care about how illegals harm our people.


Edit: I decided to link the report so that there is no waste of time arguing over the facts

"Among its findings, the Commission notes that the illegal workers are estimated to account for as much as one-third of total immigrants in the United States, and that illegal immigration has tended to increase the supply of low-skilled, low-wage labor available. The Commission found also that about six in 10 adult black males have a high school diploma or less, and are disproportionately employed in the low-skilled labor market in likely competition with immigrants. Evidence for negative effects of such competition ranged from modest to significant, according to the experts who testified, but even those experts who viewed the effects as modest overall found significant effects in occupations such as meatpacking and construction."

The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers

I get that but if you're a ditch digger or a window waher you'll always be competing with anyone willing to do these jobs.

Its low key wild for anyone to be ok with being a career no skilled worker.

Theres tons of ways to scale up and at the end of the day there needs to be a culture shift for people at the bottom.

You cant be a dishwasher and participate in consumer culture like people who make 10 times there salary lord knows no American women is putting up with a nikka working at the carwash
Frankly youd have factor in significant prison time as they try to get that lexus up


Finally the Black community as a whole aint willing to support these brothers which is why they will always be at a disadvantage witj a migrant

 

[Uachet]

I get that but if you're a ditch digger or a window waher you'll always be competing with anyone willing to do these jobs.

Its low key wild for anyone to be ok with being a career no skilled worker.

Theres tons of ways to scale up and at the end of the day there needs to be a culture shift for people at the bottom.

You cant be a dishwasher and participate in consumer culture like people who make 10 times there salary lord knows no American women is putting up with a nikka working at the carwash
Frankly youd have factor in significant prison time as they try to get that lexus up


Finally the Black community as a whole aint willing to support these brothers which is why they will always be at a disadvantage witj a migrant

Read the information I posted before you make an asinine statement. In my post, ditch digger and and window washer was not even mentioned in the Congressional Report. They did mention other jobs though.

Your propensity to throw up a Strawman on this issue, exposes the truth about you. In your attempt to defend Democratic policy on this issue, you went to insulting the majority Blue Collar workers in the Black community. This shows that you are more a Democrat American than you are a Black American.

Edit: One mentioned was meat packer:

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