Why are BothSiders so happy Trump won and Kamala lost?

[Wiseborn]

Classic modern Democrat playback. Don't look to see why Independents voted Trump (or didn't vote at all), instead just insult them and call them closet right wingers etc


If this is how yall gonna keep acting I'm not going to have any shortage of entertainment in the years ahead.

I don’t know why y’all think noone is researching this.

Trump didn’t listen but believe me the GOP analyzed his loss too.

Again if shyt is a joke to you and you agree that who’s in the white house doesn’t directly affect your life I get it.

Despite it all most of y’all live in deep Blue Black areas controlled by Black Feminist women.

Maybe Trump should look into why nikkas voted for hoes instead off white dudes locally?

 

[Born2BKing]

You nikkas love calling anyone that doesn’t blindly follow you “conservative”

I can just call you a selfish ass nikka, How about that?

 

[AllHolosEve]

So Bothsiders and Independents arent the same. But BothSiders and MAGA are? Yall really arent that bright
Maybe #BothSides is its own seperate entity neccessary for the time. You know,how it should be other political partys seperate from Democrats and Republicans that fit the time and cater to the want and needs of people who dont want to identify as Democrat or Republican because bothsides stink. Not identifying as one or the other sounds like the definition of an independent to me. Obviously yall know we lean left since you were trying to convince us to vote Democrat all year. But when we lean ON the left with criticism ,suddenly we must be firmly on the right wing?

-There's no "Y'all" & I didn't say bothsiders & maga are the same. I literally said I'm an independent & I've said plenty times the two party system should be thrown in the bushes. Do you know how fukking stupid your reply is? What dem do you think you're talking to?

-For the record, you're not necessary. If trump does what he wants you were actually detrimental.

 

[AllHolosEve]

Oh damn, you are right. I did say party affiliation. That was dumb of me, but I assume I was trying to be tongue and cheek with that statement. Still, you are right on that. I need to be more careful with my statements for sure.

Edit: Let me be clear, Independent has no party affiliation. It was my mistake saying my party affiliation was Independent, when in fact being an Independent means you are a part of none.

-Fair enough. Let me be clear, being independent doesn't make you affiliated with bothsides either.

 

[Sauce and Footwork]

I was going in on both sides and trump supporters on this site the entire election. But I just don’t have the energy to chastise black people about this shyt no more. Black men and women are the only ones who voted for Kamala by majority( including me). We shouldn’t be disingenuous and just act like everyone who voted for him that are black, did it cuz they expecting a check or super conservative or hate women. My uncle voted for trump. Completely disagreed.

But his reasoning is that he has a lawn company as a manual laborer… and in his community, That area the illegals are getting most of that work because they undercut with extremely low prices. Again didn’t say I agree. But I’m not calling him dumb. He voted for trump because immigration is his biggest concern because he is directly competing with illegals. End of day money matters the most to Americans and there are a lot of people angry at the current president and vice president because pockets are flat and they j .Gotta stop insulting each others intellect just cuz we disagree or it doesn’t apply to us. I’m a white collar worker… I’m not as concerned with immigration .. I’m not Christian, so I am pro choice.

I think Christianity is fictional and ridiculous. But if someone is a strict Christian, that shyt can matter to them more than trump being a bigot . I have never voted republican , before somebody try to act like I am defending trump. I can’t stand him, but outside of the obvious bigots (whether racist or sexist) we all have different needs and things we vote for.

I’m a veteran and pay no education loans. All forgiven. I care about free education and surely support the fukk out of it, but I don’t care as much to where it’s my primary voting reason, because my kids go to school free too. But if you not a disabled veteran and went to college that might be your number one concern and you might not have the money to send your kids to school and don’t want them accumulating debt from large loans. People usually vote for that one thing that matters the most to them. No one is really voting on the environment and that concerned about fracking..But I struggling with these high ass groceries and the economy is my primary concern and I placed my personal faith in the democrats over the republicans to solve this. Again just pointing out we all have things that matter to us more . It’s extremely easy to just write people off as stupid and again I’m admitting I’m wrong in doing that as well in the past. Black people supported Kamala the most and unfortunately she just lost. And she was never a likable candidate. She ran for president before and she didn’t come close to getting the dem nod . Like people didn’t fukk with her or Booker. They numbers were atrocious

 

[BruhManFromTheFifthFlo]

I can just call you a selfish ass nikka, How about that?

Thank you

 

[ba'al]

Democrats lost all three branches of government as well as the popular vote but they still talking to mfers greasy like they won.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

I think they're tired of the identity politics of the left. The right is certainly problematic, but day to day dealing with identity politics, cancel culture, and shaming tactics of the left gets draining.

I'd also argue that both siders are probably former democrats that are disillusioned by what the party has become and find the direction it's going isn't for them, but they are aware of the dangers of the right.

Cancel culture is centuries of Jim Crow and slavery and anti-minority sentiment. Not a$$holes being held accountable for their shytty actions.

That’s why campaigns against Disney, target, bud light, the nfl (in light of kapernick kneeling) weren’t considered “cancel culture”. Because it was led by white conservatives.

But when minorities flex what little muscles we have it’s a problem for America.

The conversation is built off dishonesty

 

[Born2BKing]

That guy gets it. Unfortunately, from what I have seen so far, it seems most of the Democratic Party members talking about why they lost refuse to be as introspective as that man is in the video. Instead, they prefer to insult everyone else for their incompetence and poor showing.

Cap, how many damn Democrats being constructive about losing the election ya'll wanna see? It's like some of ya'll make up this fake narrative in your heads and just run with it. Literally everyone has been shytting on the dems and saying what they did wrong. You talm bout some black women on IG comments or some shyt? The ones mad because Kamala lost as a black woman?

 

[Uachet]

-Fair enough. Let me be clear, being independent doesn't make you affiliated with bothsides either.

You are right, and I am sure I made myself clear by stating I was talking only about myself. I was not speaking for other Independents, because being an Independent does not even mean you lean in any direction. An independent can lean towards conservativism or liberalism. The only thing we have in common is that we decided that no party fits our needs, so we do not affiliate with any party—the why of that decision can be unique to each person.

 

[AllHolosEve]

I was going in on both sides and trump supporters on this site the entire election. But I just don’t have the energy to chastise black people about this shyt no more. Black men and women are the only ones who voted for Kamala by majority( including me). We shouldn’t be disingenuous and just act like everyone who voted for him that are black, did it cuz they expecting a check or super conservative or hate women. My uncle voted for trump. Completely disagreed.

But his reasoning is that he has a lawn company as a manual laborer… and in his don’t believe anything said by them. That area the illegals are getting most of that work because they undercut with extremely low prices. Again didn’t say I agree. But I’m not calling him dumb. He voted for trump because immigration is his biggest concern because he is directly competing with illegals. End of day money matters the most to Americans and there are a lot of people angry at the current president and vice president because pockets are flat and they j .Gotta stop insulting each others intellect just cuz we disagree or it doesn’t apply to us. I’m a white collar worker… I’m not as concerned with immigration .. I’m not Christian, so I am pro choice.

I think Christianity is fictional and ridiculous. But if someone is a strict Christian, that shyt can matter to them more than trump being a bigot . I have never voted republican , before somebody try to act like I am defending trump. I can’t stand him, but outside of the obvious bigots (whether racist or sexist) we all have different needs and things we vote for.

I’m a veteran and pay no education loans. All forgiven. I care about free education and surely support the fukk out of it, but I don’t care as much to where it’s my primary voting reason, because my kids go to school free too. But if you not a disabled veteran and went to college that might be your number one concern and you might not have the money to send your kids to school and don’t want them accumulating debt from large loans. People usually vote for that one thing that matters the most to them. No one is really voting on the environment and that concerned about fracking..But I struggling with these high ass groceries and the economy is my primary concern and I placed my personal faith in the democrats over the republicans to solve this. Again just pointing out we all have things that matter to us more . It’s extremely easy to just write people off as stupid and again I’m admitting I’m wrong in doing that as well in the past. Black people supported Kamala the most and unfortunately she just lost. And she was never a likable candidate. She ran for president before and she didn’t come close to getting the dem nod .

-Being a cynic that believes most humans are selfish & stupid I expect nothing less but can respect your sentiment.

-Thing is, bringing up the fact people are Black won't mean a thing to a lot of people because it's not about that. People that are looking at what the effects of this will be years from now aren't worried about each individual today. People that feel other people are making choices that will be detrimental to them & their loved ones in the future aren't trying to play nice because we're all Black. This wasn't something generally insignificant like whose favorite rapper gets an award or which team wins the Superbowl. This will literally effect people's lives for years. I can't even be mad at people being cut off over this because it showed some people they're not on the same side.

-I can respect your uncle for having a logical reason stance but so we're clear. Trump isn't a good representative of Christianity by a long shot so anyone voting for him on that basis is a fukking idiot.

 

[Uachet]

Cap, how many damn Democrats being constructive about losing the election ya'll wanna see? It's like some of ya'll make up this fake narrative in your heads and just run with it. Literally everyone has been shytting on the dems and saying what they did wrong. You talm bout some black women on IG comments or some shyt? The ones mad because Kamala lost as a black woman?

If you have a list of many democrats being constructive about their loss, please name a few so I can look up what they have said on the issue. Most I have seen have been leaning on two main reasons, misogyny and Racism.

 

[Born2BKing]

To thread the needle I’d say the number one issue for the Coli is illegal immigration.

which is something all americans care about.

Again if you’re a real Bothsider you should see migrants in jail ready to be deported. If that does’t happen you got to Blame Trump.

nikkas shouldn’t be all talk and no action.

I guess Kamala didn’t want to gaslight nikkas like she wasn’t ok with Biden’s migration policies and acting like she was gonna thanos snap them all out of here.

As a black man, I don't give a fukk about illegal immigrants. This ain't our country and never will be. We tryna stack claim like we're wanted here and have a say. Naw we the bottom of the totem pole and it's where they want us to be.

 

[Uachet]

As a black man, I don't give a fukk about illegal immigrants. This ain't our country and never will be. We tryna stack claim like we we wanted here and have a say, now we the bottom of the totem pole and its where they want us to be.

That is your choice, but you seem to not also care about the bulk of Black people either with this position you have taken. The majority of Black people are in in the low to no-skilled worker area of the economy. That means they have to compete with those illegals coming into the country for jobs, funding, resources, and housing. If you look at Chicago in particular, you will see what our brothers and sisters are saying about the situation as it pertains to them and their neighborhoods.

So in the end, it affects our people. I have placed on this website studies shown in Congress that prove it affects our people the most too. You can do a search on this forum for it. So if as a Black man you do not care about illegals, it shows you do not care about how illegals harm our people.


Edit: I decided to link the report so that there is no waste of time arguing over the facts

"Among its findings, the Commission notes that the illegal workers are estimated to account for as much as one-third of total immigrants in the United States, and that illegal immigration has tended to increase the supply of low-skilled, low-wage labor available. The Commission found also that about six in 10 adult black males have a high school diploma or less, and are disproportionately employed in the low-skilled labor market in likely competition with immigrants. Evidence for negative effects of such competition ranged from modest to significant, according to the experts who testified, but even those experts who viewed the effects as modest overall found significant effects in occupations such as meatpacking and construction."

The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers

https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/docs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

 

[Born2BKing]

That is your choice, but you seem to not also care about the bulk of Black people either with this position you have taken. The majority of Black people are in in the low to no-skilled worker area of the economy. That means they have to compete with those illegals coming into the country for jobs, funding, resources, and housing. If you look at Chicago in particular, you will see what our brothers and sisters are saying about the situation as it pertains to them and their neighborhoods.

So in the end, it affects our people. I have placed on this website studies shown in Congress that prove it affects our people the most too. You can do a search on this forum for it. So if as a Black man you do not care about illegals, it shows you do not care about how illegals harm our people.

Same folks who say shyt like this will also say Obama didn't do shyt for black people. For some reason some people in our community only care about the black community when it comes to illegal immigrants. Thats the issue they speak on, over healthcare, education, civil rights, voting rights, etc etc. Its silence when those things are brought up but for some reason, the issue that republicans are stronger on is the one they care about the plight of black people in relation too. Interesting shyt