Why are AA's the only group in the diaspora who are told get in tune with their culture?

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Agreed,but the Gullahs are a very small percentage of AAs in general.
But, Lucumi people are a very small percentage of Cubans as well.

I don't get the obsession of SOME non-AAs with trying to separate geechee, afro-seminole, creole people and the like from the greater AA community, when they are true blood and born AAs in every sense of the word.

They are certainly more AA than 2+ gen Caribbean and African immigrants born in the US that some people try to peg as AAs when it suits them.
 

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We're the least culturally African out of the black race. Some people have an issue with that.
This.

America has no culture....

America stripped black folks of culture and tradition

therefore........
 

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This topic has been done to death.

Perception is a muthafukka, and the perception of AA culture is that any traces of African influence were destroyed during slavery. That’s not even close to true, but that’s what we been telling people for decades now.
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To be honest when it comes to AA culture my primary concern is how AA’s perceive it, protect it, understand it, and participate in it. Not validating it to trolls with ulterior motives. IMO we gotta put some more respect on the culture and stop vilifying it and talking about how we were stripped of everything.
 

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But, Lucumi people are a very small percentage of Cubans as well.

I don't get the obsession of SOME non-AAs with trying to separate geechee, afro-seminole, creole people and the like from the greater AA community, when they are true blood and born AAs in every sense of the word.

They are certainly more AA than 2+ gen Caribbean and African immigrants born in the US that some people try to peg as AAs when it suits them.
Making AA sub-groups out to be non-AA allows them to maintain the argument that AA’s don’t have a culture, or that it is at least watered down.

So they create arbitrary boundaries between “regular” AA’s and these particular sub-groups that don’t exist in real life.
 
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Why would you offer your dikk to men?
Nobody has to respect recently created ethnic identities exaggerated to offset the blow of racism.
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Flags ain't gonna save you, they're toilet paper.
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And why do i have to accept the identity you guys impose on us exaggerated only to suite your needs...

Dominicans are BLACK, but only when AA's want us to be black and when it helps their cause!! fukk outta here with that hypocrite bullshyt!!
 

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One thing that I always wondered in these conversations is how does one measure “Africaness” or African retention?
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Because these conversations ALWAYS lead down this path but it’s never clear on how we’re supposed to define this.

What’s the scale? How do you break all of this down?
 

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One thing that I always wondered in these conversations is how does one measure “Africaness” or African retention?

It's all an eye-ball test, really.

I mean, there are SOME things we can quantify, like number of African loanwords, creole languages, african-derived instruments etc. I'm sure scholars in the subject can go even deeper than that. But, overall it's pretty arbitrary.
 
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Yeah how do you scale "African" culture when all culture in Africa are not the same. People, consciousness, culture etc evolve, adapt and change. The continent of African doesn't have a stranglehold on what "Africaness" is, if biologically there are some in the Americas who register closer to being pure, then some on the continent.
 

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African American culture is the one they created here in the US. African culture is so foreign to AAs so how can they get in tune with a culture they know nothing about? You might as well be telling them to get in tune with Russian or Korean culture, that is how foreign African culture is.

If you take an AA to an African party they will be just as puzzled by the music, food, dancing and language as a White American.
 

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Well I'm both Jamaican and American and in Jamaica the people there are encouraged to know their roots in Africa a lot especially since there's a large Rastafarian culture there.
But they are a prime example of white supremacy ruling the minds of black people in a majority black country, and why i ask the question, what good is culture if it still has you thinking like your enemy?

The Rastaman does not represent the average Jamaican. First Rastas were seen as bad in Jamaica, but when Bob Marley blew up things changed, BUT the badbwoy talk just increased substantially since the 80's. Yes, you hear rastaman talk, but the way of living is nothing like it, even when they come to the states. Even rastas were the ones who were shooting shyt up in the 80's, and 90's. I understand if you are in the drug game, you might have to resort to violence, but I seen some doing things like being materialistic, and living the ways of babylon.

So, AGAIN, if you have a culture that is connected to mother Africa, what good is that culture if it allows you to think like your enemy?

Do people who praise the African culture connection, only doing it to fake a connection, and feel good about themselves? If not, how is this cultural connection helping Jamaicans, and Africans?

AND what are the cultural connections?
 

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This.

America has no culture....

America stripped black folks of culture and tradition

therefore........
But, we all know that aint true, because we never really mingled with whites like that throughout history, so we obviously had to do things that are now associated with blacks. Every group on earth had to do this, its not rocket science. Our music was different, our food was made somewhat different. This part is hard because most blacks were the cooks in this nation, so the recipes were still by black people. Our politics were different. Even the way we worship is different, so how can you say we have no culture or America doesn't. Sounds very ignorant, to me!

This brings me to another point. Let's just say AA didn't do anything related to African culture, what does that have to do with both groups being related somewhere down the line, and both being effected by white supremacy? The way I see, the issue of being separated, and conquered, is more of a bigger deal then cultural connection. Have black people been so used of fighting each other, that we can't see this simple fact?

This argument is basically the "real hip hop" argument. Some used to say you are not "real hip hop" if you didn't sound like NYC rap, but we now see everyone had their version of hip hop, and some even did it better then NYC, so how weren't they "real hip hop" if they kept the same elements, for the most part?

If what people are considering culture is music, food, language, what makes that so big that it would separate people IF those people have a bigger reason why they are fukked up? Europeans have different culture, but you can travel though the continent very easy, and its no question they all would consider themselves white if you asked what race they were, and if they were to go against other groups.
 

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Agreed,but the Gullahs are a very small percentage of AAs in general.

That is true but a significant amount of African American linguistics even to this day have roots in Gullah-Geechee culture, especially those of us who have ancestry in the coastal parts of downstate South Carolina, southeastern tip of coastal North Carolina, the Georgia Sea Islands, and a bit of Northeast Florida.

It’s basically the mother language for African American Vernacular English aka Ebonics and you can still hear a good amount of Gullah-Geechee influence in our day-to-day speech patterns, lexicon, cadences, etc. to this very day.



I have cousins down there who are Gullah-Geechee, these are my people as much as they are to a significant amount of my fellow African Americans, especially up and down the US Eastern Seaboard.

To exclude the Gullah-Geechee People or any other subgroup such as the Creoles, Afro-Seminoles, the extinct Jersey Dutch, Watermen, etc. in order to make it seem like they’re some sort of distinct and distant or even non-related outlier to the overall African American Culture and Experience, is not only disingenuous and short-sighted but also extremely disrespectful.
 
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But, Lucumi people are a very small percentage of Cubans as well.

I don't get the obsession of SOME non-AAs with trying to separate geechee, afro-seminole, creole people and the like from the greater AA community, when they are true blood and born AAs in every sense of the word.

They are certainly more AA than 2+ gen Caribbean and African immigrants born in the US that some people try to peg as AAs when it suits them.

Pure Facts.
 
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