Whose got more upside Between Velveteen Dream and Montez Ford?

Dream or Ford?


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Osmosis

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I wasn't watching when this Dream cat was getting pushed. Was he really as good as this thread indicates? :dwillhuh:
 

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He's probably getting the titles back at mania and has a edgier presentation.

Yeah, that's a consolation prize, but I don't think they're given up on him at all. Unfortunately, he's viewed in that space where HHH likes guys, a solid A-/B+ guy they can elevate whenever they want....guys like LA Knight, Nakamura, Sheamus, Strowman, etc...that is great for the product but not for him as a star (or, for what I want him to be tbh)

The question is, would you rather be a perennial tag team title guy or stuck between IC and WHW title guy? Ivar or La Knight?

Oh great five straight more WrestleMania seasons of Cody, Kevin/Sami, The Samoans, Drew Mac, Damian Priest, Gunther, Logan Paul and Rhea Ripley.

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Oh great five straight more WrestleMania seasons of Cody, Kevin/Sami, The Samoans, Drew Mac, Damian Priest, Gunther, Logan Paul and Rhea Ripley.

:snoop:
Well, realistically of those names, priest and Gunther and Rhea and Paul are in the 2nd year of main event status, and jey uso is in his first. It is realistic that Owens and Sami get bumped down for new blood or Paul goes away, in favor of Breaker, Pentagon Jr, Jacob fatu, and hopefully tez

Look at the women...we were looking down the barrel of perpetual Becky/char/Sasha/bailey/bliss, and most of them are gone or relegated for new blood since.
 

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Those 2 were supposed to be next mannnnnn

Tez still directionless on the main rosters 6 tears later
Tez is one half of a tag team and tag teams have the lowest ceiling atm.

In order to make it to the next level, he has to be willing to make a big boy decision and break away from Dawson. He clearly doesn't want or is afraid of doing that.
 

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At minimum Ford should be in that US title picture mix by now :francis:
 

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I wasn't watching when this Dream cat was getting pushed. Was he really as good as this thread indicates? :dwillhuh:

He had as high a ceiling as you could possibly have as someone who started out young, an innate understanding of everything you SUPPOSED to do as a character, and had the Cena co-sign.

If he kept himself together, man… :snoop:
 

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I've always had a theory that after the "Monday Night Messiah" gimmick that Seth's "Visionary" gimmick is basically wearing all of the crazy costumes that were meant for Velveteen Dream had he made it to the main roster. Only difference is that Dream at least had the aura to pull off the outfits and weirdness meanwhile Seth just be out chea dancing, singing and having fun looking odd and awkward in the process.

:myman:But I still support you Seth
 

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all that talk on FOX :mjlol:

anyway Big E won the title (twice?), Kofi won a title with him & Xavier finally turning heel
 

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Dream was gonna be a legend that even racism couldn't stop. Shame he couldn't help himself.

Montez is talented and very athletic, but Dream had it all.
 

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I wasn't watching when this Dream cat was getting pushed. Was he really as good as this thread indicates? :dwillhuh:
His wrestling was passable but his character work is what set him apart. To me he was the most entertaining part of NXT until he started being a weirdo
 

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I've always had a theory that after the "Monday Night Messiah" gimmick that Seth's "Visionary" gimmick is basically wearing all of the crazy costumes that were meant for Velveteen Dream had he made it to the main roster. Only difference is that Dream at least had the aura to pull off the outfits and weirdness meanwhile Seth just be out chea dancing, singing and having fun looking odd and awkward in the process.

:myman:But I still support you Seth

Yeah he seems like a nice guy but his gimmick is just not him imo
 
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