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Dream had so much potential. At least I still have hope for Keith lee and Montez 
Whose got more upside Between Velveteen Dream and Montez Ford?
- Thread starter Conscious Pilot
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Dream.
Despite the fact that Ford is more athletic, a more technically sound in-ring guy and can do character work, Dream is considerably younger and, if the allegations are unfounded, has support from key people.
Despite the fact that Ford is more athletic, a more technically sound in-ring guy and can do character work, Dream is considerably younger and, if the allegations are unfounded, has support from key people.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
They are on FOX - a national TV channel everyone with a television gets once a week every week of the year. It's a big stage, period. Whether they use it right or not is a whole different animal entirely, but it's undoubtedly big time.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
theyve been on FOX for less than a year, and i think theyre still not really pulling good ratings.
and we're back at a point where theyre no longer the only "big game" in town. you can just go to AEW at this point and never look back as long as youre satisfied with your pay/push.
El Cocodrilo
Superstar
wrestlemania is still a bigger show than all of the indies can put together combined.... except for this year cause of covid
not saying i like it but thats how it is
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
im saying smackdown couldve just stayed on USA and would be doing the same numbers.
they havnt benefited from the additional FOX exposure at all.
the fox-sports deal that they have is sweet tho.
well yea, wrestlemania has been synonymous with wrestling for 35 years now, and theyre still gonna have the most brand-name recognition for years to come.
but the whole "big leagues" angle was always corny for a scripted "sport" and they cant even claim that anymore with AEW around.
all im saying is, a wrestler would have to be a str8 marky mark if they left and worked in other promotions with the goal of going back to the WWE. thats some ole WWE kayfabe chit.
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Oh. So you didn't read my first post at all. Bet.
I literally pointed out that their usage of their platform is questionable off rip, bruh. FOX is still big time. So your point, that I was replying too in the first place, is incorrect. No one in their right minds thinks WWE has made proper use of the massive boon they've been given being primetime on one of the four major stations in America 52 weeks a year.
Rell84shots
Veteran
Montez Ford has singles star written all over him, he's someone who would benefit greatly from an IC title run.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
so if they didnt make proper use of the platform, why are you acting like theyre so much ahead??
if YOU read my previous posts, then you would know that i already acknowledged the fact that the WWE has the most brand-recognition from the general public, and its not even close. but none of that really matters, if the general public could care less.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
why are yall trying to rush the guy??
he has potential years down the road, but thats a long way from now.
hes not even gonna give you a meaningful I-C title run at this point.
let the street profits tag team cook. theyre way more profitable(pun intended) as a unit.
check back in 2-3 years.
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He's probably getting the titles back at mania and has a edgier presentation.
Yeah, that's a consolation prize, but I don't think they're given up on him at all. Unfortunately, he's viewed in that space where HHH likes guys, a solid A-/B+ guy they can elevate whenever they want....guys like LA Knight, Nakamura, Sheamus, Strowman, etc...that is great for the product but not for him as a star (or, for what I want him to be tbh)
The question is, would you rather be a perennial tag team title guy or stuck between IC and WHW title guy? Ivar or La Knight?