Whose got more upside Between Velveteen Dream and Montez Ford?

[Organic Trees]

Dream had so much potential. At least I still have hope for Keith lee and Montez

 

[BrehWyatt]

Dream.

Despite the fact that Ford is more athletic, a more technically sound in-ring guy and can do character work, Dream is considerably younger and, if the allegations are unfounded, has support from key people.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

now, the only reason to go back to wwe is if cokeboy is out because then wwe is THE big stage without a senile old man canceling all of the writers and talent ideas AND you travelled around the world and got that seasoning from making your name against other free professionals

that big stage bullchit is just propaganda.

 

[Novembruh]

that big stage bullchit is just propaganda.

They are on FOX - a national TV channel everyone with a television gets once a week every week of the year. It's a big stage, period. Whether they use it right or not is a whole different animal entirely, but it's undoubtedly big time.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

They are on FOX - a national TV channel everyone with a television gets once a week every week of the year. It's a big stage, period. Whether they use it right or not is a whole different animal entirely, but it's undoubtedly big time.

theyve been on FOX for less than a year, and i think theyre still not really pulling good ratings.

and we're back at a point where theyre no longer the only "big game" in town. you can just go to AEW at this point and never look back as long as youre satisfied with your pay/push.

 

[Novembruh]

Are you arguing that FOX and TNT are somehow equivalent stages? Because they aren't. TNT wouldn't even claim that themselves.

 

[El Cocodrilo]

that big stage bullchit is just propaganda.

wrestlemania is still a bigger show than all of the indies can put together combined.... except for this year cause of covid

not saying i like it but thats how it is

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Are you arguing that FOX and TNT are somehow equivalent stages? Because they aren't. TNT wouldn't even claim that themselves.

im saying smackdown couldve just stayed on USA and would be doing the same numbers.

they havnt benefited from the additional FOX exposure at all.
the fox-sports deal that they have is sweet tho.

wrestlemania is still a bigger show than all of the indies can put together combined.... except for this year cause of covid

not saying i like it but thats how it is

well yea, wrestlemania has been synonymous with wrestling for 35 years now, and theyre still gonna have the most brand-name recognition for years to come.

but the whole "big leagues" angle was always corny for a scripted "sport" and they cant even claim that anymore with AEW around.

all im saying is, a wrestler would have to be a str8 marky mark if they left and worked in other promotions with the goal of going back to the WWE. thats some ole WWE kayfabe chit.

 

[Novembruh]

im saying smackdown couldve just stayed on USA and would be doing the same numbers.

they havnt benefited from the additional FOX exposure at all.
the fox-sports deal that they have is sweet tho.

Oh. So you didn't read my first post at all. Bet.

I literally pointed out that their usage of their platform is questionable off rip, bruh. FOX is still big time. So your point, that I was replying too in the first place, is incorrect. No one in their right minds thinks WWE has made proper use of the massive boon they've been given being primetime on one of the four major stations in America 52 weeks a year.

 

[Rell84shots]

Montez Ford has singles star written all over him, he's someone who would benefit greatly from an IC title run.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Oh. So you didn't read my first post at all. Bet.

I literally pointed out that their usage of their platform is questionable off rip, bruh. FOX is still big time. So your point, that I was replying too in the first place, is incorrect. No one in their right minds thinks WWE has made proper use of the massive boon they've been given being primetime on one of the four major stations in America 52 weeks a year.

so if they didnt make proper use of the platform, why are you acting like theyre so much ahead??

if YOU read my previous posts, then you would know that i already acknowledged the fact that the WWE has the most brand-recognition from the general public, and its not even close. but none of that really matters, if the general public could care less.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Montez Ford has singles star written all over him, he's someone who would benefit greatly from an IC title run.

why are yall trying to rush the guy??

he has potential years down the road, but thats a long way from now.
hes not even gonna give you a meaningful I-C title run at this point.

let the street profits tag team cook. theyre way more profitable(pun intended) as a unit.
check back in 2-3 years.