Whose got more upside Between Velveteen Dream and Montez Ford?

[Francis White]

The BIG money is in Montez and Bianca as a couple. You can bring them on the news to discuss something serious



They have a couples IG which will can lead to the right reality show that can elevate the female audience like total divas did for a time, and elevate the black audience like no one has since The Rock.



Most people can look at this couple and see that’s a 2020 couple that’s representative of the time and blend in with who’s considered hot in today’s society. Not 1984, not 1998, TODAY. You can put these two against Aleister and Zelina, Seth and Becky, HHH and Stephanie.

I’m a huge fan of Bianca but everything you posted will never happen.

 

[CM_Burns]

Ford. Dream has a good look but I don't think he totally gets his character or how to portray himself. He's still missing something. Ford seems to have better psychology, while also being a good athlete, and is more charismatic on the mic.

 

[Hey_zeus]

Better than him at what? Dream had a bad match with Roderick Strong. That’s damn near impossible.

Selling for one. Dream matches have heat and drama mostly because of selling and his mannerisms. He also works more snug from what I've seen. But like I said, this may be unfair to judge until we see more of Tez dolo.

 

[Metal Face]

Ford.

Especially after dem allegations against The Dream

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Ford.

Especially after dem allegations against The Dream

I was gonna say I think both are dope and both probably have a high upside but then you brought this up.

Damn I forgot all about that.

 

[The axe murderer]

Ford.

Especially after dem allegations against The Dream

wait which allegations

 

[Bryan Danielson]

wait which allegations

WWE's Velveteen Dream Denies Allegation He Sent Explicit Photos to Minors

 

[luckyse7enz]

It's really hard to say. Dream has the more intriguing character for TV and he has PHENOMENAL marquee matches but he's not a very consistent live promo. He's got all the unbridled star power and a brilliant mind for psychology/story-telling, especially for someone that young.

The thing is that he works so well as an attraction that I wonder if he'd lose some shine by being seen weekly in the main roster's current format. In NXT, they can keep the build to a story fresh because there's so much time in between Takeovers.

Montez is a different side of the same coin though. He's a workhorse in the ring and brings things to the table that you don't see on the regular. He's a solid live promo, and a solo run would help him refine it, but you can see that he gets the gist of how to reel different parts of the base in (silly for the kids, then serious for the adults).

I kind of see his comparison as Seth post-Shield since he can talk enough and is crisp/dynamic enough to wow a crowd weekly in tag & singles without too many bells & whistles around the story. He could thrive believably in the main roster format with decent enough booking.

I'll say that they could achieve the same goals if Montez says on RAW and if Dream were to get called up to Smackdown (where they currently seem to be doing better with eccentric stories).

 

[Dolo]

Really not tryna side with a pedo

 

[NoMorePie]

Delete

 

[dh86]

stop.

strong is the original worst fukk'n indie wrasslin of the time.
who somehow happened to be eclipsed as instant Nyquil by matt taven.

Roderick strong is strong odor based garbage.
an instant Oh fukk this...change the channel guy.

anyone trying to give strong any cred.
I know never ranted a match and if they did.
Plus never mentioned how garbage strong is.
going into any contest beforehand is not being indicative of the truth.


watching strong is like what if erik wants had a moveset somehow and was still eric watts.

if there was anyone to ever never watch.
Plus wish i had my time back from watching his matches it is strong.


strong and taven is just white privilege come to life.

both offer nuffin whatsoever and if you dumb enough to push.
your promotion won't be doing a damn thing. Plus his funk can definitely ruin anyone who could have had an upside as well.

so if you have a hopeful.
you trying to get over. you keep him completely from strong period.

if you wanna ruin or bury a grappler or promotion.
book strong against them.


art barr


sckraight up fukk watching anything strong or taven is involved in.

Dream also fukked up a match against Chris Hero. I think Dream is the worst male wrestler in WWE that gets tv time.

 

[R=G]

I respect Ford more.

 

[Novembruh]

Dream has the higher ceiling; Ford has the higher floor, in terms of WWE wrestling.

Spoiler

If they can figure out how to let him do his character with a few minor tweaks on the main, Dream could be a top-level guy for them for over a decade, considering how young he is. (Dude needs a female valet. A new one - not someone who already has a past in the company. It will help balance out his more aspects for Middle America. It should be Vanessa Bourne but they playing games.)

But... this is Vince's company.

And with everything now, they'll turn bruh into black Goldust in a world where Vince's old ass is probably a new viewer of OAN... so yeah, the potential drop-off to the floor for Dream is precipitous as fukk in WWE. Montez able to maintain his athleticism will, at minimum, get the pre-New Day-Kofi treatment once they break the Profits up, and could parlay that easily into a title run. Dude gets himself a bit more grappling into his moveset and maybe a crisp Northern Lights with a bridge, dude could be big. Not likely as big as Dream could become because the one thing they'll accept less than Dream being Dream in the E proper is Tez being a well-spoken, non-caricature of a black man who is good at his job and doesn't just win off athleticism. And with Tez being 6 years older than Dream, I gotta wonder how long he'll have them hops like that.

That being said, I'd love to end up in a world where we can have multiple successful black people in this company at the same time and not have their stories all have to also revolve around each other. That'd be great.

 

[Peter Popoff]

I'm going with the non trump supporter montez ford

I don't think either of them are trump supporters like Lashley.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Neither

Not surprising from a racist fakkit with dorito dikk breath that pretends to be black on a forum.