Whoever stereotyped HBK a racist...

[Rick Fox at UNC]

Yeah but dont criticize a response u initiated. What's the matter with u? Lol

I initiated you talking about how cool you were for liking the right fictional characters as a kid? Ok then, my bad.

We're going in circles mate.

My larger points about separating art from the artist and the cognitive dissonance of being a black person heavily invested in American pop culture are the main things I wanted to get across.

 

[Osmosis]

We've all talked trash before

 

[AquaCityBoy]

We're going in circles mate.

Expect anything else when you argue with @R=G, brehs.

 

[Da King]

Mania 23's buyrate is pretty high

Shout out to @Dog Based Gremlin for the bar graph

Dat HBGOAT draw power :HBGOAT:

 

[Zero]

Real question, is anyone who likes the product going to stop watching?

Anyone going to stop hitting up old YouTube clips? Is anyone willing to remove this guy/these guys from their childhood memories?

If not, none of this talk really matters.

I've long since stopped supporting the WWE financially. I'll watch Raw with TSC brehs but that's pretty much it. Any PPV is downloaded and watched after the fact

 

[Vice Queen]

I don't even have a real problem with HBK, but his fans on here are the worst. If the b*stard said some racist shyt, he said some racist shyt and holds racists views, why is that hard to understand? And the more I hear about him, the more of a piece of she he sounds like.

 

[richaveli83]

From my time here TLR has been the WOAT forum. shyt turns into a gender war bm vs bw, height thread, shyt on x ethnic group, light skin vs darkskin or some nude pic exposal. I heard flat earth science is all the craze now. Its like the misc on bodybuilding.com.........probably worse. TSC is orders of magnitudes better its not even close.

The Locker Room never ceases to amaze me. Everyday reading something I'm like at the same time.

 

[mrken12]

Real question, is anyone who likes the product going to stop watching?

Anyone going to stop hitting up old YouTube clips? Is anyone willing to remove this guy/these guys from their childhood memories?

If not, none of this talk really matters.

That sounds like a bunch of weak deflections. The problem I have is a large group of people almost worshipping some guy with a questionable background. And even worse a bunch of people in denial.

 

[mrken12]

Mania 23's buyrate is pretty high

Shout out to @Dog Based Gremlin for the bar graph

The most successful Wrestlemania was 28 with Rock and Cena in the main event.
The 3rd most successful Wrestlemania after 23 was 27 with Cena and Miz in the main event and Rock as a guest host. I'm noticing a pattern......

WWE reports WrestleMania 28 did 1.3 million buys on pay-per-view, breaking the record for most all time

Updated WrestleMania 27 Buyrate Info: Number Increases - Wrestlezone

And the highest grossing event in company history was Wrestlemania 29 which was headlined by:

PWTorch.com - WWE NEWS: WM29 "highest grossing event" in company history, WWE releases initial info on WM29 PPV buys

 

[Popi]

That sounds like a bunch of weak deflections. The problem I have is a bunch of people almost worshipping some guy with a questionable background. And even worse a bunch of people in denial.

At the end of the day, they're not paying your bills. They don't even know you exist!
Unless you're a paid member of a promotional team, I don't see the point in denying any entertainer/athlete's shortcomings.
Being a fan is one thing, idol worship is another.

 

[richaveli83]

The most successful Wrestlemania was 28 with Rock and Cena in the main event.
The 3rd most successful Wrestlemania after 23 was 27 with Cena and Miz in the main event and Rock as a guest host. I'm noticing a pattern......

WWE reports WrestleMania 28 did 1.3 million buys on pay-per-view, breaking the record for most all time

Updated WrestleMania 27 Buyrate Info: Number Increases - Wrestlezone

And the highest grossing event in company history was Wrestlemania 29 which was headlined by:

PWTorch.com - WWE NEWS: WM29 "highest grossing event" in company history, WWE releases initial info on WM29 PPV buys

As much hate that Cena gets he brings the company money.

 

[Alfred0Santana]

If you were a kid in 96 and you thought Shawn Michaels was fly compared to the Nwo, Sting, and Taker? You had to have been a wigger or skater geek Black guy who was a male Avril Lavigne. No fukking way any Nyggas or Latinos were thinking Shawn Michaels was the be and end all of the business in 96 with his gay Chippendale dancing routine and weak ass theme music while the spray paint was going strong. And even if you wanna go back a year or two later, Razor was ALWAYS seen as better and who everyone was talking like at school and everywhere else. Shawn was never on that level which is why fans flipped on him so quick for Sid at Surivor Series. He's nothing. He never was. All of this revised history on this site is comedy because his matches in 96 were NOT piff. They were not talked about on the legendary level. They never were. The WWE hype machine has done good with it but that's about it.

The Kliq was one of the worst things about the business. $hit got better when Austin and Rock rescued the WWF. Nash and his fingerpoke of Doom was what stopped the competition so he's no genius and he killed his own heat from 98. Stupid as fukk too.

 

[BlackDiBiase]

If you were a kid in 96 and you thought Shawn Michaels was fly compared to the Nwo, Sting, and Taker? You had to have been a wigger or skater geek Black guy who was a male Avril Lavigne. No fukking way any Nyggas or Latinos were thinking Shawn Michaels was the be and end all of the business in 96 with his gay Chippendale dancing routine and weak ass theme music while the spray paint was going strong. And even if you wanna go back a year or two later, Razor was ALWAYS seen as better and who everyone was talking like at school and everywhere else. Shawn was never on that level which is why fans flipped on him so quick for Sid at Surivor Series. He's nothing. He never was. All of this revised history on this site is comedy because his matches in 96 were NOT piff. They were not talked about on the legendary level. They never were. The WWE hype machine has done good with it but that's about it.

The Kliq was one of the worst things about the business. $hit got better when Austin and Rock rescued the WWF. Nash and his fingerpoke of Doom was what stopped the competition so he's no genius and he killed his own heat from 98. Stupid as fukk too.

oh no no no, RG you are easily one of my favorite posters on TSC easily i dont even read most other posters garbage but you be coming up with the realness i love it but with that said the comment posted is bullshyt raw and uncut bullshyt.

as a black kid with fam and school we all loved shawn michaels he was really fun to watch the way he would hit the turnbuckle and flip back then we didnt even know the science of wrestling and etc but we all knew HBK had it and you wrong about razor because no friends i knew really fukked with him like that he was cool sure but he wasnt that thrilling in the ring and etc.

HBK has pretty much been that dude.

 

[R=G]

oh no no no, RG you are easily one of my favorite posters on TSC easily i dont even read most other posters garbage but you be coming up with the realness i love it but with that said the comment posted is bullshyt raw and uncut bullshyt.

as a black kid with fam and school we all loved shawn michaels he was really fun to watch the way he would hit the turnbuckle and flip back then we didnt even know the science of wrestling and etc but we all knew HBK had it and you wrong about razor because no friends i knew really fukked with him like that he was cool sure but he wasnt that thrilling in the ring and etc.

HBK has pretty much been that dude.

Your friends didn't fukk with Razor Ramon? U expect me to believe that? Come on

 

[BlackDiBiase]

Your friends didn't fukk with Razor Ramon? U expect me to believe that? Come on

lol everyone liked razor but to us HBK was that dude, bret, etc .... you gotta remember at that time in the 90s all the goats like perfect,savage,etc ... left but HBK was around them times so we knew him and he always put on a good performance and was a cool dude.

but i get what you are saying i just think hbk deserves just slightly more credit than you give him but his not for everybody i guess so i understand.