Who really was in the wrong for the Daniel Puder-Kurt Angle situation?

[Osmosis]

Imagine how big a star Puder would've been had this happened in the UFC or any other smart company

they're usually smart about these things but i don't think vince was watching smackdown at the time

 

[Lucha Vandross]

LOL.. This is funny. I kicked his ass and I got him. Watch this weekend in South Florida..

 

[R=G]

Until this situation, we had NEVER heard of anyone kind of getting one up on Kurt Angle. He had a backstage thing with Eddie....he's wrestled Lesnar in a shoot deal backstage and Shelton said he took Lesnar down. And there was some deal where Kurt Angle physically forced Mark Henry to take his hands off of him during a grab(not a fight but just to show Henry he could do it). So this was some wild $hit when it went down

 

[R=G]

 

[mrken12]

The Nasty Boys? Quite a loose definition of the word legend. They have no business being on that poster with actual legends.

 

[mr x]

Such a random gimmick account.

Not random to the thread...but if he posts anywhere else, then yea. Lol

 

[mr x]

Anyone have the broken ribs part?

 

[Daniel Puder]

they're usually smart about these things but i don't think vince was watching smackdown at the time

Vince was in the back that day. & thx

 

[Daniel Puder]

Until this situation, we had NEVER heard of anyone kind of getting one up on Kurt Angle. He had a backstage thing with Eddie....he's wrestled Lesnar in a shoot deal backstage and Shelton said he took Lesnar down. And there was some deal where Kurt Angle physically forced Mark Henry to take his hands off of him during a grab(not a fight but just to show Henry he could do it). So this was some wild $hit when it went down

Yep.. your right on.

 

[DLo]

I'm sure they were all laughing in the back watching Kurt haze the rookies and then got shook when they saw Puder almost snap his arm

 

[WOAHMYGOODNESS]

Its kurt and vinces fault
U market the guy as a former ufc fighter and tell him to go shoot with a guy who jusy broke the ribs of the guy ahead of you

Nothingbwring with folding angle like a pretzel

Id juat have let go as soon as the count startered and got to my feet

 

[Big Jo]

Yep.. your right on.

what's on sunday?

i feel like this is really daniel puder btw. i bet dude google searches for himself constantly and joins forums when there's a thread about him

 

[Silkk]

LOL.. This is funny. I kicked his ass and I got him. Watch this weekend in South Florida..

 

[Box Cutta]

Here's what I've pieced together.

Angle was hurt, but was basically shooting. Assuming he'd mow through the guys (hence that one guy's broken rib)

WWE didn't know/didn't care about MMA, underestimate's Puder, get's caught in submission.

In shoots, Angle has claimed that he verbally chastised Puder for pinning himself and losing, not for applying the hold, like most people thought. In reality though, I'm willing to bet all of my money that he was caught off guard and his ego took a hit.

Typically WWE, SO ingrained in the "everything's a work, brother" mentality, that they think they can control these shoot style situations. Also probably had Angle and others blowing smoke up their ass, thinking he could take anyone. Same thing with the Brawl for all.

Hell, Jericho's book mentions Frank Shamrock and a bunch of UFC guys walking around. Vince got surly with their presence and said "well, we've got Malenko, Brisco etc... with us". Thinking his crew could step to Frank's if shyt went down.

He's insanely out of touch with the real world when it comes to fighting.

How about the story that Shane was trying to buy a MMA promotion, but Vince said he'd only fork up the money if he could control the endings....

 

[Golayitdown]

Its kurt and vinces fault
U market the guy as a former ufc fighter and tell him to go shoot with a guy who jusy broke the ribs of the guy ahead of you

Nothingbwring with folding angle like a pretzel

Id juat have let go as soon as the count startered and got to my feet

Knowing what we know now, snapping Angle's arm probably would have been his best bet at getting a break