Who is the 5th Best QB in the NFL?

[WesCrook]

After Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, and Burrow.

 

[Born2BKing]

Matthew Stafford and it isn't really close

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

You're missing Stafford, Dak, Baker and tbh Daniels after the rookie year he's had. I don't think there's a clear cut case for anyone though. Herbert is the guy that scouts and GMs are in love with but I don't think it's clear. It depends on the year and the situation. Look at Stafford's numbers this year they are pretty pedestrian.

BTW this is why Purdy will get his money from someone. Go look at the QB's who haven't been named yet.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Stafford....Is it ok to say Jared Goff these days?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

If you don't have one of the top 4 you're just praying that everything goes right

 

[King Poetic]

Staf

 

[GilSho]

The consensus outside the Coli is Justin Herbert. That's my choice too.

Goff, Baker, Daniels, Hurts and Purdy (in no order) round out my Top 10.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

This year its Goff

 

[feelosofer]

Crazy for me to say but this year but you could make an argument for Baker Mayfield.

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

Goff


Which feels crazy to say

 

[bigde09]

Crazy for me to say this but you could make an argument for Baker Mayfield.

He’s been good

 

[ECA]

Herbert the only one with the tools to be a superhero like the top 4. Everybody else are civilians. Stafford's superhero days are behind him

 

[murksiderock]

NFL people have a Herbert fetish and routinely have him and Padford as 5 and 6, interchangeably...

The NFL has a Big 4, that have separated from everyone else. After those four, it can go in any order...

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Padford. He's a really good player......who for the first 12 years of his career never won a playoff game and only made the playoffs 3x. You could certainly argue that his best Detroit teams were better than the '24 and '23 Rams. The difference is in coaching because I have 12 years of evidence to prove to me that Stat Padford isn't a championship-level difference maker...

I'll go with the coach who had made a Super Bowl run already pre-Padford, as the reason why late in his career Padford is all of a sudden in the playoffs every year...

I can't be a fan of Herbert who in every big game he's had to muscle up, he's folded, and is just getting to his second postseason this year. The physical traits are secondary, tell me what a guy does in money time and I'll tell you the kind of QB you have. He doesn't even win enough in the regular season to deserve the kinda praise he garners...

Anyway, I think Goff is clearly #5. He's got the best history of any of the other QBs outside the Big 4, and he's still performing as well as anyone outside of those 4. So he's 2 for 2 in my book, easily #5...

I'd probably round out my Top 10 as:

5 Goff
6 Herbert
7 Baker
8 Love
9 Hurts
10-11 Padford/Darnold

I'll admit #'s 5 thru 11 are fairly interchangeable. I think there's a gap to the Tier III QBs after #11, though, and you could argue a healthy Dak is in this second tier...

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Goff


Which feels crazy to say

But that wouldn't have been said last year or even early this year, I don't think it's clear cut at all

 

[murksiderock]

But that wouldn't have been said last year or even early this year, I don't think it's clear cut at all

Why couldn't you say it last year? He was good enough to be in the "borderline Top 5" conversation last year, which is exactly what this topic is about; who is borderline Top 5.

I agree that it isn't clear but I like Goff over everyone else. Only reason people are slow to praise Goff is because of McVay's media buddies pushing his narrative that Goff was ass, after they traded him...

No one thought Goff was ass when he had that classic regular season duel with Mahomes 6 years ago...