Who had it worse, the native american or the African American?

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where's the voting option of the black indian?


history treats them like they don't exist.


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I get Native Americans got fukkked over, but that shyt happened throughout history.. like if the japenese found america, would they have treated them better? considering what they did in china?

remember, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Everyone has their skeletons... imperialism is rampant throughout history..
 
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Black people have it the worst...Native Americans got land, reparations, free education, virtually taxless, owned blacks as slaves, all fought for the Confedracy, received money for finding or killing runaway slaves.Most people that have membership to Native Americans tribes are white people that bought into the membership when the government let them form "Nations" and receive the reparations.

Can you show me where this happened outside of the US and Canada? Can you show me that all tribes received these benefits? Can you show me the benefits that entire tribes who don't exist anymore on this planet received?

Again, you're talking about possibly 80-85% of the native population wiped out (in the high estimates). The Catholic Church and the Conquistadors did an absolute number in Central and South America.

For example, in Brazil, the natives are definitely 100% at the bottom of society. My maternal grandmother and her family are natives (obviously mixed throughout centuries of mixing). These people are absolutely dirt poor. Not like "American dirt poor" but dirt poor. Almost no literacy. High alcohol and suicide rates (like the US natives). I didn't see and have never heard about a casino out there.

So to say every native is well of is about misguided my friend.
 

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Can you show me where this happened outside of the US and Canada? Can you show me that all tribes received these benefits? Can you show me the benefits that entire tribes who don't exist anymore on this planet received?

Again, you're talking about possibly 80-85% of the native population wiped out (in the high estimates). The Catholic Church and the Conquistadors did an absolute number in Central and South America.

For example, in Brazil, the natives are definitely 100% at the bottom of society. My maternal grandmother and her family are natives (obviously mixed throughout centuries of mixing). These people are absolutely dirt poor. Not like "American dirt poor" but dirt poor. Almost no literacy. High alcohol and suicide rates (like the US natives). I didn't see and have never heard about a casino out there.

So to say every native is well of is about misguided my friend.

Not all tribes receive specific benefits, some more than others. I think there only 5 recognized native American nations. These same native Americans fought the Confederate because they owned land and had black slaves and made money off of them. But all native Americans in or out the nations are recognized.The cac "native Americans" are the ones doing most of the eating. A lot of the ones suffering on reservations is due to self-hate and isolation, but they still receive a lot of benefits on the reservation which is many prefer to stay there even though they go to college for free and make something of themselves.

The payment that some native Americans get come from mineral rights on their lands. Mineral rights are no joke. I know many cacs here in Texas that are seeing money for minerals on their land including oil. Lands given to them by the government when they signed treaties. That is why certain tribes tend to have more money. They also have loop wholes on tax on the reservations. Casinos are also big business and they make so much money from that they are can provide monthly checks to members.

The reason Brazilian natives are poor is because they were given no reparations for their suffering like American natives. Texas just found sh!tload of oil and a bunch of cacs owns the land. If native Americans owned that same land, they would agree to provide monthly checks for their members because its land owned by the people, for the people.
 

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Brothers,—We are friends; we must assist each other to bear our burdens. The blood of many of our fathers and brothers has run like water on the ground, to satisfy the avarice of the white men. We, ourselves, are threatened with a great evil; nothing will pacify them but the destruction of all the red men.

Brothers,—When the white men first set foot on our grounds, they were hungry; they had no place on which to spread their blankets, or to kindle their fires. They were feeble; they could do nothing for themselves. Our father commiserated their distress, and shared freely with them whatever the Great Spirit had given his red children. They gave them food when hungry, medicine when sick, spread skins for them to sleep on, and gave them grounds, that they might hunt and raise corn.

Brothers,—The white people are like poisonous serpents: when chilled, they are feeble and harmless; but invigorate them with warmth, and they sting their benefactors to death.

The white people came among us feeble; and now we have made them strong, they wish to kill us, or drive us back, as they would wolves and panthers.

Brothers,—The white men are not friends to the Indians: at first, they only asked for land sufficient for a wigwam; now, nothing will satisfy them but the whole of our hunting grounds, from the rising to the setting sun.

Brothers,—The white men want more than our hunting grounds; they wish to kill our warriors; they would even kill our old men, women and little ones.

Brothers,—Many winters ago, there was no land; the sun did not rise and set: all was darkness. The Great Spirit made all things. He gave the white people a home beyond the great waters. He supplied these grounds with game, and gave them to his red children; and he gave them strength and courage to defend them.

Brothers—My people wish for peace; the red men all wish for peace; but where the white people are, there is no peace for them, except it be on the bosom of our mother.

Brothers,—The white men despise and cheat the Indians; they abuse and insult them; they do not think the red men sufficiently good to live.

The red men have borne many and great injuries; they ought to suffer them no longer. My people will not; they are determined on vengeance; they have taken up the tomahawk; they will make it fat with blood; they will drink the blood of the white people.

Brothers,—My people are brave and numerous; but the white people are too strong for them alone. I wish you to take up the tomahawk with them. If we all unite, we will cause the rivers to stain the great waters with their blood.

Brothers,—If you do not unite with us, they will first destroy us, and then you will fall an easy prey to them. They have destroyed many nations of red men because they were not united, because they were not friends to each other.

Brothers,—The white people send runners amongst us; they wish to make us enemies that they may sweep over and desolate our hunting grounds, like devastating winds, or rushing waters.

Brothers,—Our Great Father, over thegreat waters, is angry with the white people, our enemies. He will send his brave warriors against them; he will send us rifles, and whatever else we want—he is our friend, and we are his children.

Brothers,—Who are the white people that we should fear them? They cannot run fast, and are good marks to shoot at: they are only men; our fathers have killed many of them; we are not squaws, and we will stain the earth red with blood.

Brothers,—The Great Spirit is angry with our enemies; he speaks in thunder, and the earth swallows up villages, and drinks up the Mississippi. The great waters will cover their lowlands; their corn cannot grow,and the Great Spirit will sweep those who escape to the hills from the earth with his terrible breach.

Brothers,—We must be united; we must smoke the same pipe; we must fight each other's battles; and more than all, we must love the Great Spirits he is for us; he will destroy our enemies, and make all his red children happy.
 

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We're soldiers of the same struggle. Although Native Americans were almost entirely wiped out, African Americans were kept around and bred like super animals and treated horribly and we've yet to see any reparations to this day (and 40 acres and a mule don't count either). The "reparations" Native Americans get are a joke, they're basically given the tools to kill themselves these days. They've lost all hope to live, it breaks my heart.
 
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As a Native , we ( Naive + Blacks) need to look at the upsides right now.

Blacks have a a form of power in the media. It is currently being misused.

Natives have extremely large amount of land still, there only 11 out 50 u.s. states are bigger than the total land of Natives Reservations.
Were they have there own laws, police, school, etc.

If the Blacks, Natives , + Latinos can come up with a elaborate plan & most importantly a Leader, We can make a Push for more power.

A spark once turned into a Flame.

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As a Native , we ( Naive + Blacks) need to look at the upsides right now.

Blacks have a a form of power in the media. It is currently being misused.

Natives have extremely large amount of land still, there only 11 out 50 u.s. states are bigger than the total land of Natives Reservations.
Were they have there own laws, police, school, etc.

If the Blacks, Natives , + Latinos can come up with a elaborate plan & most importantly a Leader, We can make a Push for more power.

A spark once turned into a Flame.

qrlw0g.jpg

Why do you want to unite with everyone but whites? Sounds racist to me.
 

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This topic is a reminder that blacks should get reparations for slavery.

I personally think that its blocked because it raises the chance of blacks coming on equal terms with whites because of our higher privileges compared to immigrants to the point where any type of boost being the most threat to white power.
 
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This topic is a reminder that blacks should get reparations for slavery.

Same with whites, Asians, and other muts around the world who have ancestors who were slaves. But guess what? Only blacks think they are the only slaves in the history of man kind.
 

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Same with whites, Asians, and other muts around the world who have ancestors who were slaves. But guess what? Only blacks think they are the only slaves in the history of man kind.
Wtf where did you get that thought?

Black people aren't trying to stop other races from getting reparations if they require it for their situation. We just want ours here in USA cuz its rightfully due.

Here in the US blacks were slaves therefore we demand reparations because of how the slavery in the US held us back.
 
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