"Who are the Knicks? Brunson, Brunson and some other Knickas" " - Official '23 NYK Offseason Thread

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he's not saving the knicks, fam. unless he wakes up and is 10 years younger. he could play 35 minutes a night the knicks will still be a 500 team.
he's 34 not 24.
i dont no if rose needs to play more or not, but he definitely saved our season when he was traded here and we were definitely shyt last year without him

the point being, thibs needs to experiment with shyt more. like shyt, play grimes and cam together a little bit and see how dat works out
 

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Preview of my closing thoughts in today's recap:
There’s nothing worse than being stuck in the middle of the NBA. Nobody wants the dreaded label of “treadmill team.” But to escape the middle, front offices have to pick a direction. Their coaches will always want to win, and their players all want to play. So it’s up to a competent front office to find pieces that fit cohesively with clearly defined roles.

The Leon Rose era has been loaded with logjams. The team brought in vets to win while promising that they want to focus on development. The developmental players never got chances to take on bigger roles for fear of impacting wins and losses. That’s not to mention the disconnect when New York has to spend its draft capital dumping those same veteran contracts.

Thus, we feel like a franchise caught in limbo. Too afraid to lose games to risk giving young players a real chance. This team will win just enough games to avoid anyone being fired while losing enough games for fans to check out mentally. That’s where this roster sits unless the front office picks a direction.

I’m not choosing win-now or rebuild for them. That’s what Leon Rose gets paid to do. But he needs to choose because no one cares about a tenth seed in the play-in tournament.
 

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@storyteller id say injuries x rose aint a elephant in the room..

The elephant in the room is the fact that IQ kant shoot a lick over what % in 3 szns and RJ has been beyond horrible AGAIN ,bein paid how many M's not progressed but regressed as a player.. I kant see 1 thing he worked on in the off szn

knick FO/ fans wanted to build around both.. Id say that more so qualifies for that statement
 

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i dont no if rose needs to play more or not, but he definitely saved our season when he was traded here and we were definitely shyt last year without him

the point being, thibs needs to experiment with shyt more. like shyt, play grimes and cam together a little bit and see how dat works out
that was 2 years ago fam....its okay to let that shyt go.
how does he play the least amount of minutes in his career and still gets hurt?
being dependent on that just means the knicks did a shyt job of putting together a roster. thibs doing a shyt job of maximizing a roster.
@storyteller id say injuries x rose aint a elephant in the room..

The elephant in the room is the fact that IQ kant shoot a lick over what % in 3 szns and RJ has been beyond horrible AGAIN ,bein paid how many M's not progressed but regressed as a player.. I kant see 1 thing he worked on in the off szn

knick FO/ fans wanted to build around both.. Id say that more so qualifies for that statement
who cares. you keep clamoring for more rose like he's the most impactful 34 year old this side of stephen curry
this team is not good. he could play 45 minutes and this team would not be good enough to compete with the big dogs
you really dont care about how mediocre the knicks are as long as your man gets minutes :mjlol:
I pray he gets moved so yal can go pretend to care about another teams direction

where are these impactful minutes supposed to come from. you paid jalen brunson 100 million and he is the best offensive player on the team
I surely hope you dont think jalen AND rose should play together considering how bad the defense would be. the value in iq is that he's by far been the best defending guard on the roster.
there is no logical way to increase roses minutes besides jalen brunson getting hurt
 

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They need to fire the coach

They need to make a trade

Normally firing the coach would be easier but so much behind the scene stuff ties them to Thibs I doubt it unless they go on a ridiculous losing streak.

I expect them to hold out until Dec 15th for player availability reasons and then go on
 

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@storyteller id say injuries x rose aint a elephant in the room..

The elephant in the room is the fact that IQ kant shoot a lick over what % in 3 szns and RJ has been beyond horrible AGAIN ,bein paid how many M's not progressed but regressed as a player.. I kant see 1 thing he worked on in the off szn

knick FO/ fans wanted to build around both.. Id say that more so qualifies for that statement

No one's pretending IQ is shooting well or that RJ hasn't been playing like shyt. Everyone would like Rose to be able to play 25 mpg at his typical level. He's not physically capable of it right now. shyt is beyond obvious and you keep popping in to blame everyone else. He's older, injury prone, and it took less than 2 weeks of him becoming the first guard off the bench for him to leave a game with an injury.
 

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They need to fire the coach

They need to make a trade

Normally firing the coach would be easier but so much behind the scene stuff ties them to Thibs I doubt it unless they go on a ridiculous losing streak.

I expect them to hold out until Dec 15th for player availability reasons and then go on
The scary thing is that when it's time to make a move, they may be inclined to do something dumb for short-term wins because they're as likely to get fired as Thibs is if things don't turn around.
 

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I would have never guessed IQ would be the best defender on the team. Rookie year I thought he was just a Lou Williams type but I think as a starter he’s prob the best option at 2
If Grimes is past his Plantar Fascitis then he's the better option. He's a more consistent shooter and as good or better on defense.

But I think IQ's shooting is way better next to a PG whether he starts or comes off the bench.
 

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@storyteller keep it a buck.. Quiet as kept, to start the season barrett was playin trash.. Its easier for knicks fans to play Randle is the issue, the card, he the cancer

And maybe he aint the answer, but he aint been playing worse then barrett, u were juss in here talkin bout how barretts numbers werent so bad just a week ago

Even delusional knick fans said he wasnt playing well because he was ill

, but it been this way all Year and a good portion of the year before

Barrett was Knicks TV poster boy as the future, last year and the past off szn, and they all startin to admit he lookin funny in the light.. And has to get it together

No one sayin rose should play 25 to 30 mins.. Sure some games maybe he kan if situation kalls for it, anywherz between 17 to 20 to start season would be fair

But he shouldn't be benched for a chucker, like IQ playin double the mins, and bein half as effecient.. Especially when rose has it goin

The point isnt total mins.. Its when he is played and how he is played, to start season with rotations he averging 12 mins a good few times even less, therz has been specific games where he has got t going and been subbed out thats on thibs

Aint no one expecting rose to. Play 30mins a game.. Thats kap
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The real Elephant in the Room is RJ got Paid BIG M's and aint take the Leap, and now everyone on this team is paying for it..from the Coach all the way Down..

Fournier gettin benched. Rose havin nulbers kut, your makin way for 1 of the most ineffecient startin guards in the league.. Not hittin shots x now not even playing reasonable D, which was a kallin kard of his last year.. ( bein a better 2 way player)


He aint that guy.. Its simple

I said it when u drafted Grimes x Sims.. You did good wit bith and in a few years Grimes will have lapped RJs progress. That stance aint changin..
 
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