"White women are more oppressed than Black women" ~ Tariq Nasheed

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So are you saying white Women aren’t oppress by white men, but black women are oppressed by black men?

Because I don’t disagree with your stance, otherwise.

BW aren’t oppress by Black men our oppression lies in historical factors and the scars that have been left behind that create an environment of self destructive behaviour and the racial hegemony created to maintain us at the bottom. What black women suffer from in respect to our male counterparts is perceived indifference, no less destructive ( whole other topic), which some may argue to be oppression. But I do not but I guess it is how one defines oppression. I choose to define as an action rather than an absence of one.

WW have never been oppressed by WM their status hinges on what WM have achieved throughout their reign. If you study European history, white women have always had relative freedom but they have chosen to remain under their men because it is bigger gain than a loss, it’s a methodical approach rather than one out of fear of reprisal. Which is why WW who don’t play by the rules are more ostracized by women than even men.

Men and women are meant to work as a unit not compete against one another, which has become ten sad reality among too many black circles.

If WM has not colonized the rest of the world and enrich themselves off other nations resources would WW have the notoriety they have now across the world? The phrasing is as important as the message.

Certain taboo topics are better discussed by intellectuals because they know how to phrase things in order to invite a sensible debate rather than incite combativeness which Tariq is incapable of doing.

I’ll add that some women may complain against patriarchy but truly do not want to live in a non patriarchal world. We just want a more balanced one. Many white feminists still subscribe to the same patriarchy that they deplore because it gives them the freedom to live comfortably. What women denounce is toxic patriarchy (ie/ Saudia Arabia, India...) but not patriarchy as a whole.
 
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They are in a sense but it depends on the content. Whtie women have a better community behind them, better schools, better opportunities, better foods but it comes at a catch that can't get shyt without a white man taking care of them.

White women aren't the voice of their community.

Black women honestly have more freedom, kinds pushed more in the workplace, grants and aid given to them to help them achieve, more support from their fellow sisters to achieve, can't be ceotozed because the critism comes mostly To us black men.

Yes in a sense Tariq is right depending on what a white woman does with her privilege, if she gets a good suitor she's more set but she has to confine more to what white men want while black women can literally donas they choose and we get the blame.
I can't believe some of you tried to rationalize what Tariq said. :russ:
 

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I don’t know how else to say I agree with you.

In the same breath, I also see the point he’s making.

1st. We have to go back to the original quote of the post, which was “White women are more oppressed then Black Women”

I’ll use this tangible example because it’s something that I just witnessed the other day on instagram. You can look it up right now.

Worldstar posted 2k ratings for a couple of WNBA players, Candance Parker, and I forget the other tall white girl name, but she’s the Truth. I believe CP got a 93, other shorty a 95.

Lol. Go Read the Comments. Nothing but White Males saying the most chauvinistic ish ever, shyt caught me off guard how negative the comments were. I barely read comments on IG, so maybe that’s a norm, but it made me start clicking on profiles to see who these dudes were.

I say that to say this...For all the flaws us as Black men have, we’ve never looked to oppressed our women, Secondly we don’t have the economic presence to do it even if we wanted to. That’s the one Key thing your not grasping in the context in which he’s using “oppressed”

One of the main reasons Trump won is White Men not wanting a Woman to be president.
Damn near 90% of black men voted for Hilary.

If we want to be honest the Hierarchy right now, if we’re comparing black/white. It’ll be
1.WM
2.WW
3.BW
4.BM

Yeah it’s a lot of us out here doing well for ourselves, but if you’re from the hood, you Know on Average Black Women are doing a lot better then black men. That’s just based on my personal observations, I’m sure it’s some statistics to back it. So within the black structure it’s nothing holding Black Women back, we’re all subjected to white supremacy.

Nah. WW choosing not to speak up, in order not to rock the boat because they want all the other benefits of white supremacy is not oppression.

WW are so 'oppressed' that they've been able to change the narrative from just 'white supremacy' to 'white male supremacy' when WS was built on the false narrative of the virtue of white womanhood. Believing ww have economic oppression is also BS when you look at how they outearn other groups of women and some other groups of men. Getting paid a little less than WM, on average, isn't economic oppression.
 

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Nah. WW choosing not to speak up, in order not to rock the boat because they want all the other benefits of white supremacy is not oppression.

WW are so 'oppressed' that they've been able to change the narrative from just 'white supremacy' to 'white male supremacy' when WS was built on the false narrative of the virtue of white womanhood. Believing ww have economic oppression is also BS when you look at how they outearn other groups of women and some other groups of men. Getting paid a little less than WM, on average, isn't economic oppression.

Especially since they are the main beneficiaries of white male high earning income.:mjlol::mjlol:

The concept of trophy wives as we know it wouldn’t exist.
 
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TONS of people take to the streets when blk dudes are victimized.

Hell R. Kelly been touching on chicks for YEARS and the first thing outta people’s mouths is “dem chicks fast!”

We all know the deal! If he was touching blk boys or white chicks, his whole spot would have been blown up.
But he knew who to victimize and get away with it. After all, those young blk girls are fast. They wanted it. Imma still bump Ignition.:stopitslime:

Ya’ll being disingenuous as hell. White women SHARE in the power of white supremacy.

Black women SHARE in the oppression of white supremacy. Only they get an extra helping of our grandmothers getting their asses beat back in the day or getting raped and molested and we can’t talk about it b/c people claim we bashing blk men if we do.

Like I said, this is a DISGUSTING conversation to have when Becky can literally lie and have a blk man in jail for centuries...AND STILL HAVE A BLK MAN CAPING FOR HER.

When u can literally spit on a race of men and have them turn around and cape for the ones who spit in their face, THAT my friend is power.

And the fact that blk dudes like him are too mind-raped to even acknowledge white woman power is beyond me.
I won’t go into white women pimping out blk men. White women one of the primary races of women who participate in the sex slave trade. Over there like a whole ass man having sad faced nikkas fukking her for a green card like she an old white dude in Thailand. Fukking young boys in schools...allla dat.

No consequences and will STILL have a black man caping for her. Just say u don’t know what power is if u can’t comprehend how much of it a white woman has.
Her femininity trumps men of color’s masculinity and that’s hard cold facts no matter what ur ego wants to tell u.

That’s why she can fukk a million of you, get married, lie on one of you and pretend to be innocent and ur life is forfeit. Ya’ll in the sunken place.

R.kelly would only get heat because people would think it was gay not child abuse. The reality is people would say them 14 yr old boys was gay and wanted it.
 

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BW aren’t oppress by Black men our oppression lies in historical factors and the scars that have been left behind that create an environment of self destructive behaviour and the racial hegemony created to maintain us at the bottom. What black women suffer from in respect to our male counterparts is perceived indifference, no less destructive ( whole other topic), which some may argue to be oppression. But I do not but I guess it is how one defines oppression. I choose to define as an action rather than an absence of one.

WW have never been oppressed by WM their status hinges on what WM have achieved throughout their reign. If you study European history, white women have always had relative freedom but they have chosen to remain under their men because it is bigger gain than a loss, it’s a methodical approach rather than one out of fear of reprisal. Which is why WW who don’t play by the rules are more ostracized by women than even men.

Men and women are meant to work as a unit not compete against one another, which has become ten sad reality among too many black circles.

If WM has not colonized the rest of the world and enrich themselves off other nations resources would WW have the notoriety they have now across the world? The phrasing is as important as the message.

Certain taboo topics are better discussed by intellectuals because they know how to phrase things in order to invite a sensible debate rather than incite combativeness which Tariq is incapable of doing.

I’ll add that some women may complain against patriarchy but truly do not want to live in a non patriarchal world. We just want a more balanced one. Many white feminists still subscribe to the same patriarchy that they deplore because it gives them the freedom to live comfortably. What women denounce is toxic patriarchy (ie/ Saudia Arabia, India...) but not patriarchy as a whole.

Bullshyt the fact that white men dictated who white women could fukk is a form of oppression.
 

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His point went completely over your head.

Of course they wouldn’t. They still have white privileged backing them. It’s just that the pillar of it is white men. They dictate.

With Black people, it’s the complete opposite. Now more then ever in History, Sisters are the most vocal, and Black men have never aimed to oppress black women. We salute Black women for prospering through all the B.S. that life brings our way.

His point was bullshyt and just a bunch of generalizations to push his argument
 

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Blk people have been oppressed by white people which includes the women. Some of u are delusional to think ww role in racism is limited to just not speaking up

 
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