White Supremacy racism is the main thing that holds back this country.

[Unknown Poster]

Some recommended reading...


@WeWillAllChangeOurStances

 

[BlackJesus]

WS is a major problem yes, but is that that closely related to policy as you seem to think.
It's mostly money/bribes/donations where lawmakers get elected and auction their vote out to the highest bidder.

Umm it’s whites who have the money to bribe them and create favorable policies. So yeah it is connected

 

[Will Ross]

America has the biggest economy

 

[BlackJesus]

White supremacy is directly tied into policy what the hell are you talking about


Race was a direct factor in the decisions of where to build the national highway system.


Race is directly responsible for why so many cities have terrible transit systems these cacs didn't want Black folks to have access to certain neighborhoods.


Race also played a big impact into why America has so much suburban sprawl and low density compared to European cities.

Yup. Look up “white flight”. Look up redlining

 

[RhodyRum]

Ok....
Your post doesn't discount what I said at all, just adds to it
The Government has always given preferential treatment to whites since the beginning of America, you just gave another example

The Great Depression decimated everyone's wealth in the 1930s. FDR was the reason Whites went back on their feet while Blacks had to pick up the pieces without any financial help

This ain't a competition bruh, I'm just correcting where you pinpointed the scales being tipped too heavily. Nothing enriches a population like free land parcels that is owned, not rented or sharecropped on. I'm not saying you're wrong in your words, what I'm saying is if you wanna see where sh1t REALLY went left, after slavery the next best place to look at is The Homestead Act.

And the Great Depression didn't decimate everyone's wealth. And even if it did, they still had that land to work where they could still raise crops for food and commerce.

FDR's New Deal created social programs to get people back to work and the economy stimulated (and in truth it was the Second World War that really dug the USA out of the Great Depression). He did not give out free land like the Homesteaders received in the 1800s. Think about it, to have supremacy you have to have claim to something that makes you feel superior. Prior to the Homestead Act a poor white wasn't much better off than a free Black. They worked the lands of the land owning aristocracy for a pittance and didn't have the political benefits of their land-owning counterparts. Post-Homestead Act they have their own land to build wealth off of, of course they're gonna place themselves in a higher class than they were before. White supremacy can now balloon because the amount of white landowners (and the political benefits that come with land ownership) are ballooning as well.

And that mortgage free land gets passed down through inheritance, and the ones who didn't inherit the land could still take profits from that land and purchase their own property. Also, it's not like the entire USA became a Dust Bowl during the Depression. As long as you owned land that was farmable, you were going to be fine during and after the Depression.

Many of those free properties are still in the hands of those families to this day. If you think white people gained a bigger head start from the New Deal than they did the Homestead Act, when we all know the outright benefits of owning farmable land (especially if you received that land FOR FREE) then I have no idea what else to say. Believe what you want but in closing, allow me to reiterate:

Ownership of land will always be where the power resides because that's where the money resides.

When you can show me how the New Deal allowed for white land ownership to increase exponentially like the Homestead Act did (at no cost except to get to the land and then work / farm it), then we can have an honest discussion about this.

 

[L0Qutus]

It's why we don't have the following:

Walkable cities with high density.


High speed rail and effective public transportation.

Free health care.


Low cost higher education.

Why we have so any gun nuts etc.


These racist cacs

This guy wrote a whole book detailing how white people would rather die than see Black people and other minorities see any benefits.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

You got it wrong though like white people control and operate damn near everything in this country.

Black people own and operate less than 1% of the wealth in this country and less than 2% of the commercial property in America is owned by black people meanwhile white people own the other 90%+.

Its said that a black family would need 225 years to accumulate the same amount of wealth that your average white family has today. What do you think accounts for that 225 year difference?


Reading doctor Claude Anderson really put me on game as to how white supremacy works.

No I do not believe that white people are supreme above me at all.
in fact I refer to white supremacy as white mediocrity.

When we refer to white supremacy. we refer to the fact that these people have damn near oversaturated themselves in every nook and cranny of public influence and life. And control and operate most of the institions where power is concentrated worldwide.

I've watched some videos by Dr. Claude Anderson but haven't read any of his books. I like what he teaches. I also was not referring to white supremacy from a radical standpoint. Here's one example that influenced my opinion. Years ago in NC members of the Tea Party (remember them) won a local election and look over the school board. They tried to do away with busing and move to neighborhood schools. Groups like the NAACP in the area argued black schools would be at a disadvantage which does have some truth. Still it was an opportunity to have students going to schools close to home which also would have made parent - teacher visits more available. At the end of the day the plans were terminated. I interpreted it as kids cannot get a quality education unless white kids are in the classroom. Except finding our own ways we still look to white people which is something folks don't want to admit.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Yup. Look up “white flight”. Look up redlining

Exactly, this stuff is not even debatable.


There is no reason we should not have high speed rail that connects most major cities right now.

There is no reason the richest nation in the world with a 12 trillion dollar economy should have people without access to dental and medical care.

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

White supremacy is directly tied into policy what the hell are you talking about


Race was a direct factor in the decisions of where to build the national highway system.


Race is directly responsible for why so many cities have terrible transit systems these cacs didn't want Black folks to have access to certain neighborhoods.


Race also played a big impact into why America has so much suburban sprawl and low density compared to European cities.

Ya my post had nothing to do with transportation.
That's just not a pressing issue imo atm

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Some recommended reading...


@WeWillAllChangeOurStances

I can check some sections out but not a fan of Dyson.

 

[Voice of Reason]

Ya my post had nothing to do with transportation.
That's just not a pressing issue imo atm

Housing, Access to health care, Wealth disparities are all because of White Supremacy too

 

[Prince.Skeletor]

Housing, Access to health care, Wealth disparities are all because of White Supremacy too

Let's change our paths to coming to a conclusion.

Option A: We get rid of white supremacy
Option B: We get rid of money in politics.

Which option will get you single payer free healthcare, and lowering the wealth gap?

I don't agree with you saying that's it's WS but at the of the day who cares.
The real important question that I care about is... is focusing on that going to solve the problem?

Saying WS is the problem for all that you mentioned is a path to nowhereland.
Getting rid of money in politics will have actionable consequences.

Do you disagree?

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

Rich people hire lobbyists. The average white person is more or less powerless. But the vast majority of rich people are white.

Let’s not play these stupid games talking about what black folks are not doing or what whites do better than us. You run the risk of sounding like a simpleton with no real grasp of the situation

I sound like a simpleton if you don't get it. Yes whites who are mainly rich hire lobbyist. Still the way whites operate is different from blacks. Look at CRT in public schools. There was a collective effort across this country from parents going to school board meetings demanding something that isn't taught not be taught. In a short time they were successful. Correct me if I am wrong but what black issues have you seen have that type of success lately? My point is simple going back to the original context of this thread. It's what we don't do that keeps white supremacy they way it is.

 

[Unknown Poster]

I've watched some videos by Dr. Claude Anderson but haven't read any of his books. I like what he teaches. I also was not referring to white supremacy from a radical standpoint. Here's one example that influenced my opinion. Years ago in NC members of the Tea Party (remember them) won a local election and look over the school board. They tried to do away with busing and move to neighborhood schools. Groups like the NAACP in the area argued black schools would be at a disadvantage which does have some truth. Still it was an opportunity to have students going to schools close to home which also would have made parent - teacher visits more available. At the end of the day the plans were terminated. I interpreted it as kids cannot get a quality education unless white kids are in the classroom. Except finding our own ways we still look to white people which is something folks don't want to admit.

Good post.

 

[Software]

It's not about a point of view though, it's about facts.
Point of views are biased, facts are not.
It is a fact that the problem we cannot have all the things OP said is because of money in politics.

Point of views or experience doesn't change that, btw I lived through racism growing up myself.

Also like I said WS shyt got it's own major problems, me saying healthcare is not one of them is NOT caping for them.

It's like RussiaGate, I was always saying forget RussiaGate there doesn't seem to be enough evidence, move on.
People were saying I was caping for Trump but meanwhile I was making threads and posts about Trump that were way worse than mere RussiaGate.
So while everyone was talking about RussiaGate and Trump's mean tweets I was calling him a war criminal and so many other things.

Shyt is too hollywood

So we're just gonna ignore how 500+ years of wealth we built is being used against us in politics? Wealth inequality is intrinsically linked to white supremacy...
The reason we aren't getting reparations and people are so resistant to it is because if we got paid even a fraction of the total debt the American government has to descendents of slaves the whole political landscape would change. Fundamentally you're just proving the point you're arguing against.