White supremacists in shambles over new series about the first Swedes.
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You arrogant piece of shyt. I wouldn’t dignify you with a decent response. Kill yourself whitey.Explain how "out of Africa" is empowering and anti white supremacy? Actually nevermind,I think you may be out of your depth. I humbly digress,agree to disagree
Ty Daniels
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Not a white supremacist but i definitely contest it. Not sure how limiting black people to Africa, as though thats the place where we all belong is somehow empowering
My stance is just because the European hasnt dug up every skeleton,or found every body that ever existed. Doesnt mean they can create an entire narrative based soley on what they found so far.
The FACT is black/melenated people are the original man and have been shown to have been everywhere globally. We literally could have come out of anywhere. So it doesnt really matter where we came from. We inhabited the entire earth first. The attempt to limit us to Africa is rejected,with prejudice. We literally could be from another planet and been placed here. The European doesnt know our damn history.
Let a group of mutated people who showed up after you,tell you where you came from brehs. Yall are going to have to break free from this European programming.
Breh,
"Out Of Africa" is NOT "Limiting Black People To Just Africa".
"Out Of Africa" means that ALL HUMANS, Black, White, Asian ETC.... Have a common Biological origin in Africa.
It has nothing to do with "Limiting Black People to Africa".
It in fact is contingent on "Anatomically Modern Humans" and the First "Eurasians" to be "Black" via Phenotype,
As the first AMA Humans had So-CALLED "Negroid" morphology.
Humans have a Shared Biological Origin IN AFRICA.
Anatomically Modern Humans did not just develop in multiple places on the planet.
If they did THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO PROCREATE WITH EACH OTHER.
They would be SEPARATE SPECIES.
The FACT that different "Races" of people can produce children together, proves a common biological origin.
Having a original Biological Origin in Africa, does NOT mean, that Black Folks couldn't also be the first people on each continent.
In fact the Migration of Black Anatomically Modern Humans out of the African continent and into the rest of the world to populate it, validates that "Black People Were Everywhere".
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Insensitive
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Crackers mad at the reality of the original man.
Not shocked.
Khadafi1982
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Sometimes I wonder if people here read
1859: Darwin proposes his theory of evolution. Nothing to do with genetics. The concept didn’t exist back then
1865: Gregor Mendel, considered the father of genetics proposes his Mendelian inheritance theory.
Now explain to me how could have Darwin theory be based on genetic pseudoscience?
Im not saying we are different species,or there were different species of black people if thats what you think im saying. My belief is "Out of Africa" is a way to reduce Africa to our home,thereby reducing our claim over the rest of the world. Theres a reason white supremacist say things like "Go back where you came from". And its not merely something they say in ignorance. Theyve been PROGRAMMED to believe Africa is the box that we belong in and thats our "home". Many black people also have been PROGRAMMED to believe Africa is our home,and thats where we belong.
The European doesnt get to subconciously program people to think we "belong" anywhere. We were all over the globe,therefore how can you PROVE we came out of one place in particular? Other than limiting black people by saying we couldnt travel the seas before the white man came along?
And no,im not attempting to distance myself from Africa at all before someone says that nonsense. But where the first people inhabited just doesnt really matter to me. We were everywhere first,which contintent nobody knows. Only narratives can be formed,and the current narrative benefits the European in my opinion
Darwin had literally 0 proof of macroevolution as a scientific concept.
His "proof" of evolution was to posit that the African is closer in genetic makeup to primates than the european, therefore the european must have "evolved" from the African
He refers to africans as part of the "savage races" in the descent of man
This is literally from google
Like I said, racist pseudoscience
Ty Daniels
Superstar
Im not saying we are different species,or there were different species of black people if thats what you think im saying. My belief is "Out of Africa" is a way to reduce Africa to our home,thereby reducing our claim over the rest of the world. Theres a reason white supremacist say things like "Go back where you came from". And its not merely something they say in ignorance. Theyve been PROGRAMMED to believe Africa is the box that we belong in and thats our "home". Many black people also have been PROGRAMMED to believe Africa is our home,and thats where we belong.
The European doesnt get to subconciously program people to think we "belong" anywhere. We were all over the globe,therefore how can you PROVE we came out of one place in particular? Other than limiting black people by saying we couldnt travel the seas before the white man came along?
And no,im not attempting to distance myself from Africa at all before someone says that nonsense. But where the first people inhabited just doesnt really matter to me. We were everywhere first,which contintent nobody knows. Only narratives can be formed,and the current narrative benefits the European in my opinion
Breh SMH,
If you "Believe" that Humans have MULTIPLE DIFFERENT BIOLOGICAL ORIGINS, then whether you UNDERSTAND the implications or not...
You are advocating for different Human SPECIES.
What you intend or believe has no bearing on the fact that, procreation would be IMPOSSIBLE between "Different Races" if there wasn't a COMMON BIOLOGICAL ORIGIN.
"Out Of Africa" has NOTHING TO DO WITH LIMITING BLACK PEOPLE TO ONLY AFRICA.
You are misinterpreting what the actual meaning of "Out of Africa" is. It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with what you are claiming.
THIS IS WHAT "Out Of Africa Means", no need for you to try and change the definition of it:
ALL of the Archeological, Genetic, Migration & Linguistic data proves that Africa is the origin of Anatomically Modern Humans, so NO it isn't just "Anyone's Guess" as to where Humans originated.
Also "Out Of Africa" has NOTHING AT ALL to do with why white supremacist(White people in general), say "Go Back To Africa".
Many White supremacists don't believe in "Out Of Africa".
And the ones the do believe in "Out Of Africa", think that something "Special" happened in "Eurasia" making "Eurasians" "better" than Africans.
Many even believe in "Pre-Adamite" bullshyt, that they come from the line of Adam, and Black people are "Pre-Adamites" (Non-Human).
The entire world has been taught to look down on Africa, and push to not be associated with Africa.
On a subconscious level, that is more than likely the reason for your reluctance to acknowledge the facts of "Out Of Africa".
Black People are "Topically Adapted", meaning we could have ONLY had a biological origin in the "Tropical Belt" of the Planet.
South America is in the "Tropics".
If I said "Black People originated in South America", I highly doubt there would be much push back.
The reality is that Humans Migrate.
Humanity originated on the African continent, and migrated to the rest of the world, you don't have to "Like" it, or "Believe" it.
Facts don't require "Likes" or "Beliefs".
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Breh SMH,
If you "Believe" that Humans have MULTIPLE DIFFERENT BIOLOGICAL ORIGINS, then whether you UNDERSTAND the implications or not...
You are advocating for different Human SPECIES.
What you intend or believe has no bearing on the fact that, procreation would be IMPOSSIBLE between "Different Races" if there wasn't a COMMON BIOLOGICAL ORIGIN.
"Out Of Africa" has NOTHING TO DO WITH LIMITING BLACK PEOPLE TO ONLY AFRICA.
You are misinterpreting what the actual meaning of "Out of Africa" is. It doesn't have ANYTHING to do with what you are claiming.
THIS IS WHAT "Out Of Africa Means", no need for you to try and change the definition of it:
ALL of the Archeological, Genetic, Migration & Linguistic data proves that Africa is the origin of Anatomically Modern Humans, so NO it isn't just "Anyone's Guess" as to where Humans originated.
Also "Out Of Africa" has NOTHING AT ALL to do with why white supremacist(White people in general), say "Go Back To Africa".
Many White supremacists don't believe in "Out Of Africa".
And the ones the do believe in "Out Of Africa", think that something "Special" happened in "Eurasia" making "Eurasians" "better" than Africans.
Many even believe in "Pre-Adamite" bullshyt, that they come from the line of Adam, and Black people are "Pre-Adamites" (Non-Human).
The entire world has been taught to look down on Africa, and push to not be associated with Africa.
On a subconscious level, that is more than likely the reason for your reluctance to acknowledge the facts of "Out Of Africa".
Black People are "Topically Adapted", meaning we could have ONLY had a biological origin in the "Tropical Belt" of the Planet.
South America is in the "Tropics".
If I said "Black People originated in South America", I highly doubt there would be much push back.
The reality is that Humans Migrate.
Humanity originated on the African continent, and migrated to the rest of the world, you don't have to "Like" it, or "Believe" it.
Facts don't require "Likes" or "Beliefs".
Last I checked scientist themselves havent decided if various groups that they say intermixed are of the same species. And possibly may not even be defined as a species. Yes its believed they all come from a common ancestor. What cant be proven is that the common ancestor came from out of Africa. Only way you can PROVE this is if you would like to go on record. Can you say for a fact that the European has found every human fossil on earth? Can you say it would be possible to assuredly find remains of every "human-like" species to ever walk earth?
Can you say with certainty that there will never be another fossil found that will force the European to rethink their entire narrative? Despite this already happening many times before,and even recently when they found those remains in Morroco? Yes,Morroco is still in Africa. But you speak as if its impossible for remains to pop up anywhere else? An older species with evolved/diverse dna,that proves dna didnt neccessarily evolve while in Africa. The Europeans narrative is based on what they currently believe,based in confirmation bias more than likely. The "story" could be forced to change at any time. Your far too gung ho knowing scientist themselves have admitted they have had to rethink certain things upon new discoveries. aka make it make sense so they dont look wrong,by any means neccessary.
But not to go off on a science tangent about what cant be proven. My only point was that I believe the Theory is a way to limit black folks into thinking Africa is the home base for so called black people. I dont see how you cant acknowledge that continents are practically segregated by race. This country is for asians,that ones for latinos,this ones for whites etc
.Whether this is done intentionally or its just subconscious based on our own perceptions? Who knows? But it shouldnt be allowed to be done to the original man and woman,being that we were everyhere globally first. And no,I do not look down on Africa. I believe black people should return to the tropics for the reason you stated. Limiting us to "mama africa" is a no go.
The entire earth is and was mama,the tropics are the most conduscive
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Ty Daniels
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Last I checked scientist themselves havent decided if various groups that they say intermixed are of the same species. And possibly may not even be defined as a species. Yes its believed they all come from a common ancestor. What cant be proven is that the common ancestor came from out of Africa. Only way you can PROVE this is if you would like to go on record. Can you say for a fact that the European has found every human fossil on earth? Can you say it would be possible to assuredly find remains of every "human-like" species to ever walk earth?
Can you say with certainty that there will never be another fossil found that will force the European to rethink their entire narrative? Despite this already happening many times before,and even recently when they found those remains in Morroco? Yes,Morroco is still in Africa. But you speak as if its impossible for remains to pop up anywhere else? An older species with evolved/diverse dna,that proves dna didnt neccessarily evolve while in Africa. The Europeans narrative is based on what they currently believe,based in confirmation bias more than likely. The "story" could be forced to change at any time. Your far too gung ho knowing scientist themselves have admitted they have had to rethink certain things upon new discoveries. aka make it make sense so they dont look wrong,by any means neccessary.
But not to go off on a science tangent about what cant be proven. My only point was that I believe the Theory is a way to limit black folks into thinking Africa is the home base for so called black people. I dont see how you cant acknowledge that continents are practically segregated by race. This country is for asians,that ones for latinos,this ones for whites etc
Whether this is done intentionally or its just subconscious based on our own perceptions? Who knows? But it shouldnt be allowed to be done to the original man and woman,being that we were everyhere globally first. And no,I do not look down on Africa. I believe black people should return to the tropics for the reason you stated. Limiting us to "mama africa" is a no go.
The entire earth is and was mama,the tropics are the most conduscive
Breh you are so "Lost In the Sauce", and don't even know it, SMH.
"Out Of Africa" is the RELUCTANT Position that "Mainstream" academia had to accept.
They didn't Start with "Out Of Africa", "Out Of Eurasia" was what was being pushed first, SMH.
The ACTUAL data and EVIDENCE, made "Out Of Eurasia", the "Idiots Position".
ALL OF THE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF EVIDENCE(Not Just Fossils, SMH), Point to AN AFRICAN ORIGIN.
The fact that you think "they" need to "Just Find More Fossils" shows me, your lack of understanding of the subject.
"Finding Older Fossils" is irrelevant, SMH.
ALL MODERN HUMANS are Genetically connected to Populations that ORIGINATE IN AFRICA, THERE IS NO DEBATE ABOUT THIS.
"Genetic Adam" is AFRICAN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam
"Mitochondrial Eve" is AFRICAN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
ALL MODERN HUMANS ARE DESCENDED FROM BOTH.
They can find 1,000 other "Older Fossils", BUT IF THEY ARE NOT GENETICALLY CONNECTED TO MODERN HUMANS, THEY MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, SMH! (but of course you don't "Comprehend" this, SMH)
You need to ACTUALLY LEARN what the "Opposing" arguments are to "Your Positions".
Instead of actually LEARNING what the positions you "oppose" are, you MANUFACTURE/Straw-man your own.
While PRETENDING your, "Lack Of Understanding" Conflation, is the actual "Opposing" position, SMH.
It is both Intellectually LAZY, and Intellectually Disingenuous SMH...
Instead of you always "Trying to Sound Deep" (SMH), focus on ACTUALLY being informed on the subject(s) you talk about, SMH.
Especially if you are trying to "Debunk" them.
"White People"/ "Mainstream Academia" were FORCED to accept "Out Of Africa", because the DATA MADE THEM.
And NOT for the Contrived reasons you claim.
As ethnocentic as White folks are, If the data was there, or there were "Doubts" the mainstream positon would be "Out Of Eurasia", "Out Of Europe", ETC...
The data dosn't support this.
Your LACK of understanding on this,
or another uninformed "What about, blah, blah, blah?",
or "They just need to find more Fossils", AIN'T changing that, SMH
Breh you are so "Lost In the Sauce", and don't even know it, SMH.
"Out Of Africa" is the RELUCTANT Position that "Mainstream" academia had to accept.
They didn't Start with "Out Of Africa", "Out Of Eurasia" was what was being pushed first, SMH.
The ACTUAL data and EVIDENCE, made "Out Of Eurasia", the "Idiots Position".
ALL OF THE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF EVIDENCE(Not Just Fossils, SMH), Point to AN AFRICAN ORIGIN.
The fact that you think "they" need to "Just Find More Fossils" shows me, your lack of understanding of the subject.
"Finding Older Fossils" is irrelevant, SMH.
ALL MODERN HUMANS are Genetically connected to Populations that ORIGINATE IN AFRICA, THERE IS NO DEBATE ABOUT THIS.
"Genetic Adam" is AFRICAN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Adam
"Mitochondrial Eve" is AFRICAN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
ALL MODERN HUMANS ARE DESCENDED FROM BOTH.
They can find 1,000 other "Older Fossils", BUT IF THEY ARE NOT GENETICALLY CONNECTED TO MODERN HUMANS, THEY MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, SMH! (but of course you don't "Comprehend" this, SMH)
You need to ACTUALLY LEARN what the "Opposing" arguments are to "Your Positions".
Instead of actually LEARNING what the positions you "oppose" are, you MANUFACTURE/Straw-man your own.
While PRETENDING your, "Lack Of Understanding" Conflation, is the actual "Opposing" position, SMH.
It is both Intellectually LAZY, and Intellectually Disingenuous SMH...
Instead of you always "Trying to Sound Deep" (SMH), focus on ACTUALLY being informed on the subject(s) you talk about, SMH.
Especially if you are trying to "Debunk" them.
"White People"/ "Mainstream Academia" were FORCED to accept "Out Of Africa", because the DATA MADE THEM.
And NOT for the Contrived reasons you claim.
As ethnocentic as White folks are, If the data was there, or there were "Doubts" the mainstream positon would be "Out Of Eurasia", "Out Of Europe", ETC...
The data dosn't support this.
Your LACK of understanding on this,
or another uninformed "What about, blah, blah, blah?",
or "They just need to find more Fossils", AIN'T changing that, SMH
"They can find 1,000 other "Older Fossils", BUT IF THEY ARE NOT GENETICALLY CONNECTED TO MODERN HUMANS, THEY MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, SMH! (but of course you don't "Comprehend" this, SMH)"
Note to the peanut gallery,notice he just said "if"? Seems as though that would make it impossible for you to go on record like I said. Your busy focused on evidence obtained right now,that fits into the Europeans current narrative. The next question would be if you understand what an actual theory is.
"While the overall theory is accepted, researchers are still refining details about migration routes and potential interbreeding with other archaic human species.
The "Out of Africa" theory is considered a theory because, while there is substantial evidence supporting the idea that modern humans originated in Africa and spread outwards, there are still gaps in the fossil record and ongoing debates about the exact details of migration patterns, interbreeding with other hominin species, and the timing of these events, making it not definitively proven beyond doubt. "
"Bu bu but Benefited,who cares about older fossils
"But its fine if you dont,thats your choice and thats okay. Some peoples intelligence is based on memorizing what the Euopean pushes as "facts". So if the facts stop being facts they will feel inadequate. For me Its a widely accepted theory,pushed as fact. Which imo acts is propaganda to limit the original mans dominion and capabilities globally. Not sure how essentially saying "we dont know yet" means im trying to sound deep. It would appear your precious science actually agrees with me. Despite the FACT they push it as a fact like I said. But would you still like to go on record for the peanut gallery?
I think youve done enough reading,you seem well learned. Now is the time for common sense to kick in. If youd rather remain indoctrinated,thats also your decision
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Ty Daniels
Superstar
"They can find 1,000 other "Older Fossils", BUT IF THEY ARE NOT GENETICALLY CONNECTED TO MODERN HUMANS, THEY MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, SMH! (but of course you don't "Comprehend" this, SMH)"
Note to the peanut gallery,notice he just said "if"? Seems as though that would make it impossible for you to go on record like I said. Your busy focused on evidence obtained right now,that fits into the Europeans current narrative. The next question would be if you understand what an actual theory is.
"While the overall theory is accepted, researchers are still refining details about migration routes and potential interbreeding with other archaic human species.
The "Out of Africa" theory is considered a theory because, while there is substantial evidence supporting the idea that modern humans originated in Africa and spread outwards, there are still gaps in the fossil record and ongoing debates about the exact details of migration patterns, interbreeding with other hominin species, and the timing of these events, making it not definitively proven beyond doubt. "
"Bu bu but Benefited,who cares about older fossils
But its fine if you dont,thats your choice and thats okay. Some peoples intelligence is based on memorizing what the Euopean pushes as "facts". So if the facts stop being facts they will feel inadequate. For me Its a widely accepted theory,pushed as fact. Which imo acts is propaganda to limit the original mans dominion and capabilities globally. Not sure how essentially saying "we dont know yet" means im trying to sound deep. It would appear your precious science actually agrees with me. Despite the FACT they push it as a fact like I said. But would you still like to go on record for the peanut gallery?
I think youve done enough reading,you seem well learned. Now is the time for common sense to kick in. If youd rather remain indoctrinated,thats also your decision
More "Fake Deep", Nonsense, LMAO
