White Liberalism

[the cac mamba]

How did you even bring this subject up? What does that have to do with the topic at all?

as far as white liberalism

whost DOESNT it have to do with it, is a better question

 

[mrken12]

as far as white liberalism

whost DOESNT it have to do with it, is a better question

It doesn't. It has to do with white supremacy. This is just you trying to crowbar religion in as a scapegoat to give you an excuse to whine about it.

White supremacy >> everything else when it comes to white people which includes religion. There's nothing in The Bible that justifies hunting down humans and hanging them from trees for sport.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

You don't live in reality.

I have a better understanding of reality than most. You haven't said a word of significance.

 

[Marvel]

I'm no fan of republicans, but at least they are outwardly honest with their dislike of blacks. liberals have been much more effective in using blacks

they come in the form of friendship, but have dismantled our family structure with their welfare policies, and they've helped severely cull our population by bringing in abortion to our communities. Now that the negroes are 'locked in', what is the democratic party doing for blacks other than using them as a footstool to get their agenda completed before tossing them aside?

Both political parties are two sides of the same devil. I don't take any black person seriously that deals with or still believes in American politics.

 

[Fillerguy]

I'm no fan of republicans, but at least they are outwardly honest with their dislike of blacks. liberals have been much more effective in using blacks

they come in the form of friendship, but have dismantled our family structure with their welfare policies, and they've helped severely cull our population by bringing in abortion to our communities. Now that the negroes are 'locked in', what is the democratic party doing for blacks other than using them as a footstool to get their agenda completed before tossing them aside?

I've gotta comment on this cuz i hate quote mining....

LBJ was a southern democrat who pal'd around with both sides of the line so I doubt he didnt feel some type of way about Blacks. However those comments were made when he was politicking and campaigning to pass the Civil Rights bill. LBJ went out his way to convince racist Southern Democrats and Republicans to vote on a bill which benefited Blacks.
So a comment coming from a man like that, with said goal its really that doesnt fit your definition of "white liberalism".

Also, after the CR bill, how have Democrats used Blacks? If anything Democrats have dropped the ball by mostly ignoring us. I'd say the Republicans were better at "using" Blacks.

You start out in 1954 by saying, “******, ******, ******.” By 1968 you can't say “******” — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “******, ******.”

This is the republican mindset dominated the latter half of the 20th century til today. This isnt quoting mining or someone trying to win a vote; its an evil man gloating. Even when they werent talking about Blacks, they were talking about Blacks. Their ability to dog whistle Black discrimination so well that minorities jumped on board, having no idea was the goal.... and they're still doing it, read the news.

 

[kevm3]

I've gotta comment on this cuz i hate quote mining....

LBJ was a southern democrat who pal'd around with both sides of the line so I doubt he didnt feel some type of way about Blacks. However those comments were made when he was politicking and campaigning to pass the Civil Rights bill. LBJ went out his way to convince racist Southern Democrats and Republicans to vote on a bill which benefited Blacks.
So a comment coming from a man like that, with said goal its really that doesnt fit your definition of "white liberalism".

Also, after the CR bill, how have Democrats used Blacks? If anything Democrats have dropped the ball by mostly ignoring us. I'd say the Republicans were better at "using" Blacks.



This is the republican mindset dominated the latter half of the 20th century til today. This isnt quoting mining or someone trying to win a vote; its an evil man gloating. Even when they werent talking about Blacks, they were talking about Blacks. Their ability to dog whistle Black discrimination so well that minorities jumped on board, having no idea was the goal.... and they're still doing it, read the news.

Bottom line is the fortunes of blacks have remained largely the same no matter what party is in. Liberals are supposedly are our buds, but when you ask for something for the black community, all of a sudden Obama says, "I'm not the black president," but he can constantly go to bat for the gay community or go to bat for the Dream Act for people who aren't even citizens of this nation. So ignoring negroes when they know the black vote is locked in, but always using the black struggle as a footstool to get some other agenda passed or as ammunition against Republicans. How many times do you see some white news anchor scream 'that's racist!' to paint the Republicans with, and yet when blacks need something, they can't hear us... but we sure are convenient to use as a footstool to get gay rights passed. "We don't want to discriminate... remember the blacks and slavery?"

Thing is, I don't rock with Republicans at all. I KNOW what they are and that they don't like blacks. I criticized Bush heavily when he was in office... but now the Democrats are in office, largely doing the SAME things. I'm not going to give them a pass for it. We heard excuse after excuse why this or that couldn't be done when the Dems not only had their Pres in the office, but a majority in Congress, but they did nothing with it.

We're also largely ignoring the racist eugenics-based origins of planned parenthood that these democrats are so willing to push on the black community. Who gets the most abortions? That's right, blacks. We have Al Gore openly saying we need to manage the fertility in Africa. We've had Bertrand Russell and Margaret Sanger way back essentially let you know they want to use these policies to keep the coloreds from overrunning the world population.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/mississippi-72-babies-aborted-are-black

(CNSNews.com) – Although whites outnumber blacks in Mississippi by nearly 2-to-1, 71.67% of the babies aborted in Mississippi are black, while 26.6% are white.

Based on data published by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 39,052 black babies were killed by abortions in Mississippi between 1995 and 2010. During that same time period, 14,529 white babies were aborted in the Magnolia State.

(CNSNews.com) – In 2012, there were more black babies killed by abortion (31,328) in New York City than were born there (24,758), and the black children killed comprised 42.4% of the total number of abortions in the Big Apple, according to a report by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/nyc-more-black-babies-killed-abortion-born

But our Dem buddies tell us that's a great thing... more abortions make for a richer community... and yet blacks get the most abortions and the black community is still in the worst position.

Bottom line is that none of these political parties are your buds or friends. Politics is all about competing interests. Once you give your vote away for free, you have no bargaining chip and you will be swept to the side.

 

[the cac mamba]

It doesn't. It has to do with white supremacy. This is just you trying to crowbar religion in as a scapegoat to give you an excuse to whine about it.

White supremacy >> everything else when it comes to white people which includes religion. There's nothing in The Bible that justifies hunting down humans and hanging them from trees for sport.

yo if u wanna get at the power structure in this country, the white chrisitian doctrine is a good place to start. the number of people who believe in that trash in 2014 is appalling. fukk the bible and i give 0 credibilty to shyt : and i fukkin hate that christinaity plays such a part in this nations lawmaking

also im not whining breh. i hate religion but that does NOT give me a sense of entitlement

 

[the next guy]

Excuses c00ns use to support republicans without looking like c00ns.

On the flip side in liberalism, there are the fake white liberals. These cats don't care about black issues or anything dealing with those "underneath" them. They just want to fit in with everyone else and usually they aren't that liberal to begin with. These are the a$$holes that will support liberal causes while holding white supremacist views almost as bad as hardcore conservatives. Usually these are upper middle class yuppie liberals and white feminist who aren't really down with the struggle but just want to appear "progressive". You will find a lot of these cats on sites like Reddit where they will claim to be liberal but will talk shyt about black people and minorities constantly.

You have to understand that LBJ was from Texas and his appointment to the vice presidency was to ease dixiecrats who were skeptical about supporting Kennedy and his coziness with the civil rights movement and liberalism in general. This was right around the time when racist democrats were feeling alienated by the progressives within the party who were for civil rights. Southern democrats were a lot more conservative than today's democrats. Even in places like Oklahoma the democrats there are even more conservative than northern republicans.
It was the same thing with Abraham Lincoln and his appointment with Andrew Johnson who was from the south and a virulent racist. Abraham Lincoln needed the racist southerner's white votes. Both LBJ and Andrew Johnson were figureheads in the Lincoln and Kennedy administration to keep white supremacist from getting too riled up while simultaneously making sure they couldn't do too much damage to progressive causes. This is the same reason why Biden was chosen as a running mate instead of Hillary. Joe Biden was an old white guy and helped ease fears that Obama was the sign of an impending race war against white people.


No one really expected both of these guys to get killed which is why it was a huge deal when they became president and why you saw so much racist crap from their administration. Southern democrats are usually always much more conservative than northern liberals. Once the dixiecrats got pissed with democrats for supporting civil rights, Nixon coddled them with the southern strategy and a huge majority of them ended up becoming republican which is why the south is heavily republican today.

I'm not saying there aren't racist democrats today but be very careful about history because conservatives will twist it and there were a lot of progressive democrats who fought harder for civil rights than a lot of sellout c00ns today would ever fathom.

I like these responses, I feel the blacks who use this have crab in the bucket menatlity. But what about this: could it be true the black people who talk about white liberalism simply have don't care about the social justice issues of the day? Like a Kobe Bryant, Paul George, etc. People who complain about white liberalism have no problem pitting minorities vs minorities - divide and conquer

 

[CHL]

White liberalism = people who are outwardly progressive and inwardly conservative, prejudice, xenophobic, plutocratic, etc.... also called neo-liberalism.... basically, Cacs are not your allies.

Damn, disappointing post coming from Poitier. What do you call the people who are inwardly progressive then?

 

[Real N Quotes]

I'm no fan of republicans, but at least they are outwardly honest with their dislike of blacks. liberals have been much more effective in using blacks

they come in the form of friendship, but have dismantled our family structure with their welfare policies, and they've helped severely cull our population by bringing in abortion to our communities. Now that the negroes are 'locked in', what is the democratic party doing for blacks other than using them as a footstool to get their agenda completed before tossing them aside?

 

[the next guy]

I'm glad this was bumped. It seems many black men, on this board and otherwise are against the "social justice warriors" that permeate tumble and the like. That's fine, but don't disparage people from support social justice initiatives because you think it's lame.

 

[DEAD7]

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